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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna => Topic started by: ashanti01 on May 14, 2007, 10:46:02 PM

Title: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on May 14, 2007, 10:46:02 PM
Just a thread with pictures of Ella and Serge to make things a little easier for people looking for just pic's of the couple.

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on May 14, 2007, 10:47:34 PM

One of my personal favorites

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/image1asx2.jpg)
in black and white
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: scarlett_riviera on May 18, 2007, 03:31:25 AM
Thank you for the photos. Ella was sooo beautiful. I love her dresses! Serge looks so stiff. lol
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 18, 2007, 07:01:05 PM
I don't think they ever looked like they were truly in love. As we know now, Serge wasn't interested too much in women. I wonder why all these homosexuals in those days married women?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Laura Mabee on May 18, 2007, 08:24:01 PM
I wonder why all these homosexuals in those days married women?
Homosexuality, I believe, was not accepted well. (Doesn't seem much different today...)
Men would marry women to adhere to society standards, and to continue the family line. If the marriage was "royally" based, it would usually be for foreign relations and policy. Don't quote me, but that is my understanding.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 18, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
You're right, it isn't much different today. I just feel so sorry for women like Ella, who never get love from their husband because he dosen't find interest in them but gets his loving elsewhere. :'(
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on May 19, 2007, 02:03:43 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/ellasergei.jpg)


I'm sure Serge loved Ella and in his way showed her affection, but one most also note that he seemed a very private person (just like Ella) and I doubt he would have allowed his guard down even in pictures. But there are a few pictures here and there where you can see something very deep between them. Maybe it's just me. ???
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 19, 2007, 02:22:10 AM
I think they look more like friends than lovers, kind of like the equivalent to Justin Timberlake and Cameron Diaz lol.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: scarlett_riviera on May 19, 2007, 08:06:59 PM
Ooo, I love that photo of Serge and Ella in costumes. :)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: TheAce1918 on May 19, 2007, 10:33:34 PM
IMO, I like their pre-engagement photos.  They both look so grand and in love too.

Scarlett is right...Serge does look rather militant in his photos and Ella simply looks elegant in hers.  Which is why I prefer her photos to Serge's.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 05, 2007, 03:07:49 PM
Ella and Sergei in 1884

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/SA.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on November 05, 2007, 04:29:31 PM
Sadly they quite well known and been in books on Ella...the archives in Moscow must be the next place to look... :)
Yes, so the rest are in the Russian Archives...too bad they can't be displayed to the public in museums or books. :-  Great picture I love that photo of both Ella and Sergei it is fantastic. Thanks for sharing Svetabel!
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on May 07, 2008, 01:58:56 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/ellasergealixfatherernie.jpg)
Sergei, Alix, Ludwig,Ella and Ernie
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on May 16, 2008, 12:19:16 PM
A family picnic in Russia.

(http://www.picatom.com/j/%20%20_%20_%20_-6-th.JPG) (http://www.picatom.com/j/%20%20_%20_%20_-6.html)

Grand Duke Ludwig, father of Ella, is at back of his younger daughter Princess Alix (future Alexandra Fedorovna). By Alix's side is Ekaterina Schneider, and then Grad Duke Sergei. Also Prince Ernst Ludwig, brother of Ella and Alix, is lying in the front playing with a dog.
My guesss the year is 1888, and the place is Ilynskoe.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ArchDss Louise-Henriette on May 16, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
I'm not sure who Ella  was in mourning for in this photo ... ?

Elizaveta and Sergei
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5250/copyoff037a21azu1.jpg)

                                                                 
 ** Nice photos everyone **  :)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on May 16, 2008, 07:25:57 PM
We discussed it once and I believe that was the conclusion. I think that the particular image we had had 1892 on it.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on July 23, 2008, 10:16:59 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/youssoupov/ellasergemariadmtry.jpg)
Serge, Ella and Dmitry and Maria?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Russka Princess on July 23, 2008, 10:19:38 AM
yeah it seesm so but who is the woman beside ella ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on July 23, 2008, 10:25:32 AM
yeah it seesm so but who is the woman beside ella ?

I believe it may be Princess Yusupov. The picture did come from her album. But I'm not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on September 22, 2008, 02:34:02 PM
With Ernst Ludwig in 1884

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1884.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on September 22, 2008, 03:08:37 PM
Ella,Sergei, GDss Maria Alexandrovna (Duchess of Edinburgh) and GD Pavel in the same 1884

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1884op.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Laura_ on September 23, 2008, 09:42:55 AM
A pity they did not have children...that's unfulfilling and sad. And then the brutal end, they are to be pitied. :-(
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 23, 2008, 12:11:36 PM
Well...Serge was such an authorative figure and does have a cruel streak in him. I don't think he is to be pitied. Ella herself embraced the mythered crown (refusing to leave when there is still time, given safe passage by the Kaiser himself). She died willingly for her people. She should be revered and respected and not pitied.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on September 30, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
GD Sergei and his spouse in the Royal mob of relatives.

The photo was taken in August 1902, in Mikhailovka, summer estate of GD Mikhail Nikolaeyvitch. The family gathered for the wedding of GDss Elena to Prince Nicolaos of Greece.

(http://www.picatom.com/p/1902prewed-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/p/1902prewed-1.html)

Here's my identifying of the persons in the photo:

Sitting on the ground - left to right -  Prince Georgios of Greece (future Georgios II of Greece), Prince Alexander of Greece (future Alexander I of Greece), GD Dmitriy Pavlovitch, GDss Maria Pavlovna-younger, GD Sergei Mikhailovitch, GD Georgiy Mikhailovitch, Prince Andrew of Greece, GD  Konstantin Konstantinovitch

First row sitting - left to right -  Princess Elena of Greece (born GDss Elena Vladimirovna), GDss Maria Pavlovna-elder, GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna (born Prss od Saxe-Altenbourg), Queen Olga of Greece (born GDss Olga Konstantinovna), GDss Anastasia of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin (born GDss Anastasia Mikhailovna), GDss Maria Georgievna (born Prss of Greece), Crownprincess Sophie of Greece.

Second row standing -  left to right  - Princess Alexandrine of Denmark (born Dss of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin), GD Mikhail Nikolaevitch, Princess Cecilie of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin (future Crownprincess of Germany), Prince Nicolaos of Greece, King Georgios I of Greece, GDss Elizaveta Fedorovna,  GD Sergei Alexandrovicth, Crownprince Constantin of Greece (future Constantinos I of Greece), GD Vladimir Alexandrovitch, Prince Georgios of Greece, GD Dmitriy Konstantinovitch, Prince Christian of Denmark (future Christian X of Denmark), GD Friedrich Franz IV of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin, Duke Paul Friedrich of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 08, 2008, 02:07:05 PM

(http://www.picatom.com/p/1902prewed-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/p/1902prewed-1.html)

   

What a great picture!! i love to see Cecilie smiling!
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 10, 2008, 11:51:33 AM
Sergei, Ella nd probably their freinds in Darmstadt, 1880s.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/ellasergefrineds.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 10, 2008, 04:25:43 PM

It is Alexandra N. "Fafka" Lobanova-Rostovskaya, her lady in waiting, with her husband. Darmstadt 87
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 11, 2008, 12:40:45 AM

It is Alexandra N. "Fafka" Lobanova-Rostovskaya

Really? I didn't recognize her at once as in her later photo with Ella (in the 1890s) she had a bit different look.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 11, 2008, 12:52:34 PM

I know whom you mean - but this is another member of that particular family. Fafka seems to have been a niece of the elder Princess
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Teddy on March 04, 2009, 06:12:18 AM
I don't know where to ask this question but here it goes:

After GD Ella became a nun and took the veil, we can see her in many court functions (total different then her charity work) for the State/Imperial Family. We can see her in many photo's and even in short films (always walking behind the Tsar or her sister the Tsarina) walking the procession with other members of the Romanov family.

What was the reason behind this double function. She became nun because of religous believe. And nuns always go totally different then their past lives before they became nuns. For Ella she sold everything of gave her jewels and palaces away. A sign that she not needed any material, wordly belongings. But in these photo's/films she is still walking with her family, taking duties for the country/IF. Why did she still appear on official court functions?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 04, 2009, 10:39:42 AM
Ella felt that as part of the Imperial Family, it was her duty to appear in public alongside her family. She had been critized for that.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on March 04, 2009, 10:54:02 AM
She can't avoid escaping from critics because she was a nun that time. I feel sad for her.  She takes that as a responsibility,not a way to fame. .
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 04, 2009, 10:59:29 AM
Well. She did her duty to her calling and to her family.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on March 10, 2009, 04:43:53 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/ellasergei.jpg)

Sorry if I'm quoting photos.
What is this dressing-up for? Was there an important occasion on the day they were photographed here?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on March 10, 2009, 08:41:53 AM
It was for the famous 1903 ball. There's a thread on the ball itself (in the Imperial Family section) which might give more detail about their outfits.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: nena on March 10, 2009, 09:17:50 AM
Yes, there is thread '1903' including many photos of that event. Also, there is one of Ella alone, I think, not sure.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on March 10, 2009, 07:30:23 PM
Oh thank you all for telling me there's a thread for that.
IMO, now I know why QVicky wasn't so impressed of Ella's husband.
It's really rue that Serge's eyes conceal something we don't know.
If he only gained more pounds, I'm sure he's gonna look handsome.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on November 17, 2009, 09:29:18 PM
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_zoomphpaa.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/zoomphpaa.jpg)
Serge is on the carriage.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on November 17, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_zoomphpaa.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/zoomphpaa.jpg)
Serge is on the carriage.

that's a good picture. Thanks for sharing it. I've always wondered at the source of the pictures marked "archive photos" - is it part of the Russian archives?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 18, 2009, 01:14:52 AM
I've always wondered at the source of the pictures marked "archive photos" - is it part of the Russian archives?

The photos with such watermark has been bought by a German site/company from the GARF (State Russian Archive).
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2009, 11:37:09 AM
You know the name of the German site ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Condecontessa on November 18, 2009, 06:31:10 PM
It's wonderful that this German company is buying rights to some GARF pics since it's a source of income for GARF. I'm assuming the fee that the German company paid/pays goes back to maintaining the archives at GARF.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on November 18, 2009, 09:57:48 PM
that's a good picture. Thanks for sharing it. I've always wondered at the source of the pictures marked "archive photos" - is it part of the Russian archives?
You are very welcome, katmaxoz! However, you post wonderful images, too, in other threads and I thank you for those :-)

You know the name of the German site ?
This link (http://photo.fine-art-images.net/de/search.html)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on November 19, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
Look's like they have posted some new things since the last time I looked. Shandroise the photo you posted of Sergei and Ella was new for me, thank you so much for posting it.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on December 11, 2009, 03:18:04 AM
Very blurry photo of the Grand Ducal pair, from the stock of GDss Elizaveta in the Archives

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/nh.jpg)

GD Sergei is unusually in civil clothes.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on December 11, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Thank you Svetabel!

It's true, Sergei is rarely photographed out of uniform. Love this image. Do you know what year the photo was taken? late 1890's or early 1900's?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on December 11, 2009, 11:27:17 AM
Do you know what year the photo was taken? late 1890's or early 1900's?

My guess the early 1900s.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on February 21, 2010, 07:16:06 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/ellaserge/s640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 21, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
Wow ! First photo I see Ella so happy and laughing. Thanks for sharing such a rare gem with us !  :)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on February 22, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Ella/ellaserge/0000cwy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 22, 2010, 02:39:19 AM
Ashanti - you dug up two more treasures! And although the second one is much better in quality, I´m absolutely delighted over the first one, which seems rather uncommon. I don´t think I´ve seen an informal photo of Sergey and Ella, where they would seem so comfortable with each other.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: ashanti01 on February 22, 2010, 04:33:28 AM
Actually, katmaxoz was kind enough to share her find of the second photo. Through some navigating of links I came across the blurry photo of GD Ella and GD Serge, which I believed spoke volumes of the couple.
If I find the photo in better quality I'll be sure to post it. I'm nearly certain it's a screen shot but I can not be certain.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2010, 08:23:58 AM
The screen capture shot was actually posted on the Forum some time ago---I can't remember where though.  :-\  It was from a book, if I remember correctly. Does that jog anyone else's memory?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 22, 2010, 10:06:32 AM
The photos here are outstanding ! I am flabbergased !!!
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on February 22, 2010, 04:06:11 PM
The screen capture shot was actually posted on the Forum some time ago---I can't remember where though.  :-\  It was from a book, if I remember correctly. Does that jog anyone else's memory?

I found a copy of it in my files as well, which means I also picked up a copy online. I can't remember the source though it is obvious there are better quality versions to be had if the original source can be tracked down.

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 22, 2010, 04:09:49 PM
Quite true. But how to track it down ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2010, 04:44:53 PM
I know it was a book--I can see it in my mind's eye but not place the title.  :-\  It was the full-length shot and you could clearly see how tiny Ella was in comparison to Serge. For some reason, I'm thinking that it wasn't a book on either one of them but rather a relation?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 22, 2010, 04:48:14 PM
A Russian relation ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
I'm not sure.  :-\  What's sticking in my mind is a non-photo album book, in a foreign language, not on Ella or Serge.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on February 22, 2010, 06:27:17 PM
I'm not sure.  :-\  What's sticking in my mind is a non-photo album book, in a foreign language, not on Ella or Serge.

it's annoying when you can only remember part of a book title like this isn't it?  It's much harder to remember titles, or even authors if they aren't in a language you have a good level of familiarity with.

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 22, 2010, 08:02:13 PM
Is it a Russian book ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
I don't believe so. Danish or Swedish maybe? Is this ringing a bell with anyone?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on March 02, 2010, 03:20:15 AM
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_81950_128859.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/81950_128859.jpg)
Is this a painting or not?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 02, 2010, 05:44:28 AM
heavily retouched photo.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on March 02, 2010, 08:54:01 AM
It was one of the more reproduced photos of them but it does look strange--like there was a different original background. The ILN published it full-page upon the assassination of Serge.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Condecontessa on March 02, 2010, 02:12:03 PM
Does anyone know the date of the pic?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 02, 2010, 02:47:31 PM
Looks like near the time of his death from the look of Serge and Ella's dress style.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on March 02, 2010, 02:53:15 PM

Impossible......... I guess that one was taken in about 1897....... she is wearing the diamond coronation brooch - but the large sleeves indicate the late 1890ies...........
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 02, 2010, 02:55:22 PM
Well...The jewels can be worn later than the time of purchase, and Ella did designed her own clothes. She always strikes me as someone who wears whatever suited her.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on March 13, 2010, 03:20:17 AM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=298242132026
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 13, 2010, 12:06:46 PM
Thanks for showing the group Thomas. I did one myself.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on April 05, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
Does anyone know who the people with Ella and Serge are?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/IF%20of%20Russia/th_GDSergeiGDssEllaHome1902.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/IF%20of%20Russia/GDSergeiGDssEllaHome1902.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 05, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
Looks like some gentleman and lady-in-waiting. It is interesting that Serge held up a cabinet photo of himself in uniform.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on April 05, 2010, 08:36:50 PM
Are you sure Serge is holding a picture of himself? I was curious but I couldn't tell.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 05, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Looks to me like the one he was wearing the uniform. one of the most published photo of Serge...I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 06, 2010, 01:19:23 AM
Idon´t know the many, and I may be grossly mistaken, but to me the lady looks a bit like Maria PAvlovna Sr.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on April 06, 2010, 02:10:10 AM
Idon´t know the many, and I may be grossly mistaken, but to me the lady looks a bit like Maria PAvlovna Sr.

That's what I thought as well.....

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on April 06, 2010, 03:15:58 AM
Are you sure Serge is holding a picture of himself? I was curious but I couldn't tell.

Yes, he is holding a picture of himself in uniform of Prezobrazhenskiy regiment.

The other lady is not GDss MP-elder.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 06, 2010, 07:27:50 AM
I agree with Svetabel., Its not Maria Pavlovna Sr.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 06, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
I concurr it wasn't Miechen. She looked like some lady-in-waiting or minor German princess.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 07, 2010, 07:32:50 AM
The dress of that lady looks way too "plain" to be Maria Pavlovna Sr.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on April 13, 2010, 02:47:45 AM
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_0_2d264_ab5a1ff4_XL.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/0_2d264_ab5a1ff4_XL.jpg)
Taken from this website: http://www.ioannp.ru/publications/403899
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 13, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
The New York Public Library has a copy of this photo too in their collection. The only one of Ella on her trip to the Holy Lands.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 13, 2010, 01:42:14 PM
The most probable thing is that the site took that picture from the NYPL since its also using colored pictures taken from here...
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 13, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
That would make sense. Since I made inquires there when I visited the library earlier this year.  :)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on April 19, 2010, 06:16:19 PM
Probably a well known picture, but I didn't see it in this thread, and I think it's a really nice and relaxed picture of the couple. And I have a strange liking of pics of royalty smoking.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/IF%20of%20Russia/SergeismokeElla1894.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: grandduchessella on April 19, 2010, 09:05:06 PM
Wasn't that published in one of the bios on Haakon & Maud? I remember wondering why the photo was in there and wishing I could read the section it was in!
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on April 19, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
Wasn't that published in one of the bios on Haakon & Maud? I remember wondering why the photo was in there and wishing I could read the section it was in!
Can't remember seeing it in Bomann-Larsen's biography.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on April 20, 2010, 03:15:54 AM
Thanks for sharing the photo. I've only seen it in a much smaller version before. It's always good to see a better version which is unwatermarked.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 20, 2010, 11:30:08 AM
Thanks for sharing, it was from the Norweigan book. It also included another one of Ella that wasn't copied here.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Teddy on April 21, 2010, 02:39:52 AM
What is the title of the book?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on May 20, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
Wasn't that published in one of the bios on Haakon & Maud? I remember wondering why the photo was in there and wishing I could read the section it was in!

Yes, it was. I wasn't sure until now, since I didn't have the Haakon and Maud bios with me. The picture was in the book in connection to the year 1905 when Haakon was elected king of Norway and Serge was assassinated.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 20, 2010, 07:12:39 PM
That picture was really interesting. I wonder if there are more in the Norweigen Archievs in Oslo.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on May 21, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
I don't know, I think the picture came from Maud's (or maybe Victoria's) private album which of course is in Oslo.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 21, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
Yes. Although I don't know how close was Ella to Maud ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: kmerov on May 21, 2010, 09:33:20 AM
I don't know either, but the book says the picture was taken after the coronation of Nicholas II, when Maud along with others stayed with Serge and Ella at Ilinskoe.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 21, 2010, 09:45:35 AM
Maud like to take pictures (a hobby that her mother Alexandra picked up) and there could be more stunning snap shots.  :)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Speedycat on May 28, 2010, 12:16:17 PM
Oh my, it's been ages since I've tried to post a photo.  I hope this works.  I nice gorup with Tsar Alexander, Marie Feodorovna, Sergei and Ella.  I will not attempt to identify the others because I will get the names wrong.  One of the Tsar's brothers in the back row?(http://s003.radikal.ru/i202/1002/36/724a2a899728.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Speedycat on May 28, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
I guess also it is maybe Nicholas and Georgie on the floor in front with Pavel?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 28, 2010, 12:20:39 PM
here is a bit larger

http://i49.tinypic.com/awx8ht.jpg

From left to right (sit) : Alexander III. Serge Alexandrovich,Maria Fyodorovna, Alexis Alexandrovich, Elisabeth Fyodorovna

On the floor : Nicholas Alexandrovich, Georgiy Alexandrovich and Paul Alexandrovich.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Speedycat on May 28, 2010, 12:22:13 PM
here is a bit larger

http://i49.tinypic.com/awx8ht.jpg

From left to right (sit) : Alexander III. Serge Alexandrovich,Maria Fyodorovna, Alexis Alexandrovich, Elisabeth Fyodorovna

On the floor : Nicholas Alexandrovich, Georgiy Alexandrovich and Paul Alexandrovich.

Oh my guesses were pretty good.  Only missed the name of Alexis Alexandrovitch!
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Speedycat on May 28, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
I hope this one has not been posted yet. (http://lh4.ggpht.com/Dedushkin1/R7dgdE9Y6vI/AAAAAAAAFoI/mV8uDoK2-3k/s800/%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%BF.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 29, 2010, 04:41:09 PM
Clearer, bigger  but not fuller

(http://i46.tinypic.com/5z4qvd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Russka Princess on May 30, 2010, 01:08:58 PM
what though Victoria,Irene,Alix and Ernie about Serge ??

they loved of course Ella..and we know irene and Ludwig IV was against that ella did changed her relgion..
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 30, 2010, 01:25:16 PM
VMH actually like Serge. You should shoot Ilana a private message, she just finished a book on the four sisters.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: katmaxoz on June 01, 2010, 05:10:32 AM
c1885 - Ella and Serge

(http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/45525/2567607130102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2567607130102753164nkluHl)

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 01, 2010, 08:32:51 AM
Serge looked relaxed here...he sometimes looked tortured even in photographs.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on June 01, 2010, 10:50:21 PM
Many, many thanks to you Kathy!

Serge looked relaxed here...he sometimes looked tortured even in photographs.

I agree. Perhaps his mood was very good that day.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 03, 2010, 09:02:35 AM
I think Ella and Serge are excellent subjects to study in psycology. They both seemed simple, but yet so complexed.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Olga Maria on June 08, 2010, 03:58:17 AM
IMO, all people have complex natures, so all of us could be great subjects for psychology.
I’m wondering where they shot those formal pictures; a certain room in their palace or a photography studio?

Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 09, 2010, 07:50:37 AM
Ella, serge with Gd Alexis Alexandrovich, Alexander III and little GD Mikhail Alexandrovich

(http://i46.tinypic.com/d9rpj.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 09, 2010, 09:26:40 AM
Indeed...Where is it came from ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 09, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
A russian Liveinternet journal. Further source i dont know, maybe from a book, or an online database
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 08, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Their wedding
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/boda.jpg)
Lovely photoshoot
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/ellayserge.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/ellayserge2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 09, 2010, 02:55:20 PM
From the same photoshoot
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/ella.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 09, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
These are really new for me. New and wonderful. The last one with Ernie is a little jewel. Where did you find them?

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 10, 2010, 12:55:04 AM
These are really new for me. New and wonderful. The last one with Ernie is a little jewel. Where did you find them?

RealAnastasia.

All those photos are from the Hesse on-line Archive. You can see the watermark there.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 10, 2010, 02:42:57 PM
I saved them from a site devoted to Romanovs, but perhaps the site mentioned by Sveta is much better.
I like this photo, showing their back! :-)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/back.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 10, 2010, 10:06:20 PM
These are really new for me. New and wonderful. The last one with Ernie is a little jewel. Where did you find them?

RealAnastasia.

All those photos are from the Hesse on-line Archive. You can see the watermark there.

Thanks for your quick, gentle answer, Svetabel. Yes; I've don't noticed the watermarks at first.Now, I see them clearly. Generally the Hesse-online archive photos are very litle and with a noticeable red mark on them. Evidently the person who took them from there cropped the pictures, which makes them look bigger (at least in my PC screen)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on November 11, 2010, 01:34:10 AM
These are really new for me. New and wonderful. The last one with Ernie is a little jewel. Where did you find them?

RealAnastasia.

All those photos are from the Hesse on-line Archive. You can see the watermark there.

Thanks for your quick, gentle answer, Svetabel. Yes; I've don't noticed the watermarks at first.Now, I see them clearly.


Seems you thought my post a bit offensive. That was not my intention.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 11, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
Reminders are sometimes sharp in tone written than if spoken in voice.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 11, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
Well, yes, sometimes...But in my case I didn't want to sound offensive myself. Maybe the fact that English is not my first language could bring some confusion. One is not too clever to choice words when using a third language (my second one is French). In fact I wanted to say I was REALLY amazed that I received a so quick answer to my message...  :)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 12, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
Did Ella & Serge took pictures in England when they visit QV on her jubliee ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on January 08, 2011, 03:26:29 AM
Ella, serge with Gd Alexis Alexandrovich, Alexander III and little GD Mikhail Alexandrovich

(http://i46.tinypic.com/d9rpj.jpg)

It's August 1888 year, when Alexander III with Mikhail visited Sergei and Ella in Ilinskoe.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on January 08, 2011, 03:27:14 AM
Did Ella & Serge took pictures in England when they visit QV on her jubliee ?

Which Jubilee exactly? They had been twice on her Jubilees.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
I am sure they took them at both times (at least I think Ella did).
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on January 19, 2011, 07:04:11 AM
Wedding of Sergei and Elizaveta

http://www.picatom.com/1r/ellawed1_1-1.html (http://www.picatom.com/1r/ellawed1_1-1.html)

I had posted it at the Wedding topic in the IF board, but think it also must be here.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2011, 03:40:20 PM
A newspaper print image. It is from the Russian press ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Svetabel on January 19, 2011, 11:04:04 PM
A newspaper print image. It is from the Russian press ?

Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 15, 2011, 08:32:07 AM
I often did wonder why there is no wedding photo of Ella & Serge. As date wise, which is the first sitting of Ella after her wedding ? Did she do one with her siblings before they left for Darmstadt ?
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Jessika on June 20, 2011, 05:49:16 PM
I'm not sure who Ella  was in mourning for in this photo ... ?

Elizaveta and Sergei
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5250/copyoff037a21azu1.jpg)

I believe they were mourning for Ella's father Ludwig.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 21, 2011, 10:00:22 AM
Yes. I think taken at Darmstadt.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Captain Koala on January 21, 2012, 05:52:55 PM
(http://<div style="width:480px;text-align:right;"><embed width="480" height="360" src="http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf" flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh534%2FWarrint3%2Ffeed.rss" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" /><a href="http://photobucket.com/redirect/album?showShareLB=1" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/share/icons/embed/btn_geturs.gif" style="border:none;" /></a><a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh534/Warrint3/" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/share/icons/embed/btn_viewall.gif" style="border:none;" /></a></div>)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Captain Koala on January 21, 2012, 06:15:28 PM
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh534/Warrint3/ella2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Captain Koala on January 21, 2012, 07:46:25 PM
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh534/Warrint3/ellagroup1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Captain Koala on January 21, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh534/Warrint3/ellagroup2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 22, 2012, 12:59:13 PM
Think that one was from the Mountbatten book...
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Captain Koala on January 22, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
@ Eric. That's right : ).
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 22, 2012, 10:24:39 PM
Yes. I got the book somewhere...Remember those pics. Alice looked nice...
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: perdita on June 15, 2012, 08:00:10 PM
Well...Serge was such an authorative figure and does have a cruel streak in him. I don't think he is to be pitied. Ella herself embraced the mythered crown (refusing to leave when there is still time, given safe passage by the Kaiser himself). She died willingly for her people. She should be revered and respected and not pitied.

Given that the Grand Duke Serge and the Elizabeth (however authorative & willfully devout) did not OPT to be childless--or slaughtered in the streets without being tried & convicted lawfully for capital crimes a modicum of "pity" might be permitted.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 15, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
I think pity should be given to Ella since she tried to do good (and was beloved) before and after she became a nun.
Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: feodorovna on June 16, 2012, 04:58:08 AM
I think pity should be given to Ella since she tried to do good (and was beloved) before and after she became a nun.

......and whatever it was that Ella discovered once inside her wedding ring was probably not revealed to her prior to it being placed on her finger. I think, whatever his sexual preferences, Serge was a difficult man, whose moods could not be second guessed. My understanding is that Ella handled the situation calmly and serenely, and stood steadfastly by her marriage vows, putting her energies into doing good, rather than seeking hedonistic pursuits.





Title: Re: Ella and Serge pictures
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2012, 11:45:21 AM
Yes. And it is not surprise that Ella became a saint.  :)