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Books and Films about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia => Films and TV shows about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia => Topic started by: investigator on March 10, 2004, 10:23:40 AM

Title: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: investigator on March 10, 2004, 10:23:40 AM
In this mini tv series (Anastasia: the mystery of anna) a lot of claims have been made such as that Anna Anderson met Cyril and she was accompained by Prince Erich and her lawyer.  And Prince Erich was in love with Anna Anderson who he thought was Anastasia. The role of Dowager Empress Maria was played by Olivia De Havilland.  How accurate was this film?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Jane on March 10, 2004, 06:56:27 PM
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In this mini tv series (Anastasia: the mystery of anna) a lot of claims have been made such as that Anna Anderson met Cyril and she was accompained by Prince Erich and her lawyer.  And Prince Erich was in love with Anna Anderson who he thought was Anastasia. The role of Dowager Empress Maria was played by Olivia De Havilland.  How accurate was this film?



Investigator,  in response to your question, I am compelled to answer: "Not. At. All. Accurate.'  

First, I am unaware of any evidence that Kirill met with Anna Anderson.  Second, "Prince Erich" was just a fictional character, a plot device originating with (presumably) the producers/writers.  It is pretty much a load of tosh.  Olivia de Havilland was far too good for it.  :)

Regards,

Jane

ETA: At last I have cracked the mystery of quoting others' posts! Muahahaha!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: LisaDavidson on April 11, 2004, 12:42:40 AM
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In this mini tv series (Anastasia: the mystery of anna) a lot of claims have been made such as that Anna Anderson met Cyril and she was accompained by Prince Erich and her lawyer.  And Prince Erich was in love with Anna Anderson who he thought was Anastasia. The role of Dowager Empress Maria was played by Olivia De Havilland.  How accurate was this film?


Kirill did not meet AA, but his brother, Andrei did. There was no Prince Erich in love with AA, but there was a Prince of Saxe-Altenburg who helped her, though not romantically. The Dowager Empress never met AA.

There is very little accurate in the film, and its point of view was unsatisfactory to nearly everyone.

Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Greg_King on April 11, 2004, 01:22:30 AM
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Kirill did not meet AA, but his brother, Andrei did. There was no Prince Erich in love with AA, but there was a Prince of Saxe-Altenburg who helped her, though not romantically. The Dowager Empress never met AA.

There is very little accurate in the film, and its point of view was unsatisfactory to nearly everyone.



Including Peter, who had absolutely no say in it (as is the way when Hollywood options something)!

Greg King
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: BobAtchison on April 11, 2004, 11:00:34 AM
Amy Irving was marvelously beautiful in it - don't you agree?  I watched it for her sake....

Bob
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Namarolf on April 11, 2004, 11:53:41 AM
Yes she was....! And far more convincing than Mrs. Tchaikowsky-Anderson ever was!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Janet Whitcomb on April 11, 2004, 10:56:05 PM
I own that video; the story line intrigued me, of course, as well as the stellar cast. Amy Irving is wonderful. But I look upon it as I look upon the marvelous Ingrid Bergman movie--"parallel universe" stories!  And the Anastasia story also reminds me of classic fairy tales, such as Cinderella, which has many, many incantations, all with a similar central plot, but different ways of telling it, and with various agendas, embellishments, subplots, etc.  
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: borgia on May 06, 2004, 12:40:06 AM
Too bad Anna Anderson did not have a real Prince Erich in her life.I think she  may have been alot happier.And,if Anna had been anything like Amy Irving;I think that more people might have  beleived  her.I would have.The movie was a great period film.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: grandduchessella on May 17, 2004, 09:41:48 AM
I totally agree. I thought it was a beautiful production and Amy Irving was wonderful (wasn't she at least Emmy-nominated for the role?). It is totally inaccurate though and as long as you approach it as "just a really interesting story with great production values" it's very enjoyable. I have it on tape from when A&E aired it years ago.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Nick_Nicholson on May 17, 2004, 10:05:56 AM
But I must say that Susan Lucci of All My Children Fame was a less than convincing Romanov.

The fact that many of the St. Petersburg scenes were shot in New York was also pretty annoying.

After production wrapped, Mr. Spielberg gave Amy Irving (then Mrs. Spielberg) a miniature Faberge egg which, I believe, had been a gift from Grand Duchess Anastasia to Sydney Gibbes.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Glebb on May 17, 2004, 10:27:43 AM
Lucky Amy Irving to have been given a real Faberge Egg.

I enjoyed the mini series even though the facts were off (even to someone who knows as little as I do about the subject).

Susan Lucci by looks alone might have been able to play Princess Irina (wife of Felix Yusupov).

Elke Summer (Romanov relative) and Angela Pleasence (sanitarium friend, who also played Katherine Howard in  BBC Six Wives of Henry VIII), both cracked me up.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Louise on May 17, 2004, 10:31:25 AM
I just really wish that TPTB (The Powers That Be) would take the time and money and do a re-make of Nicholas and Alexandra. I also hope one day that when they do it, it is historically accruate, or as accurate as Hollywood can ever be.  I dont care if it is a movie made for TV, a mini-series, a PBS etc production. Just as long as they get it right.

Louise
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Ilana on May 17, 2004, 02:22:55 PM
I remember that Amy Irving was interviewed on Larry King when they were promoting this mini-series.  This was their discovery of Christian Bale, who played Alexei.  Also, the little Faberge egg that Amy was wearing around her neck had the musical note "A" on it, and originally belonged to Anastasia.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Vive_HIH_Aleksey on July 08, 2004, 03:09:14 PM
I only saw the parts with the "real" Romanovs, and that part bugged me cause of its inaccuracy too LOL.

But Christian is so great, I love him. Far better than Roderick Noble, but the best Aleksey would be Freddie Findlay.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Annie on July 13, 2004, 09:38:30 PM
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I just really wish that TPTB (The Powers That Be) would take the time and money and do a re-make of Nicholas and Alexandra. I also hope one day that when they do it, it is historically accruate, or as accurate as Hollywood can ever be.  I dont care if it is a movie made for TV, a mini-series, a PBS etc production. Just as long as they get it right.

Louise


I want to do that SO bad! That has always been a dream of mine.

I taped "The Mystery of Anna" back in 1986 when it first came on TV. I was very disappointed in it, especially the blunt, anticlimatic ending that solved nothing. I also think the "Prince Erich" parts made it boring and drug it down, especially since it was not even true! I had to laugh at the actor they got to play Gilliard, he looked nothing like him. Irving did do a good job, but so much more could have been done with that story!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Michelle on July 24, 2004, 08:42:58 PM
Oh! How I wish that the director/producer of The Mystery of Anna would've elaborated more on the parts of the Grand Duchesses in the beginning (i.e. Olga, Tatiana, and Maria), at least having them talk! >:(  I am also absolutely DYING to know who the actresses were who played them--especially the one who played Olga!  Wow!  She was gorgeous!!  She does kind of remind me a lot of Olga, like in the pictures from 1914 (I think ???) where Olga's leaning on a table with her elbow. . . It's absolutely charming, and I always think of that actress from The Mystery of Anna who played her.  Again, anyone know who she and the rest of the duchesses were?????
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: LisaDavidson on July 25, 2004, 12:31:34 PM
The IMDB does not name any of the actresses who played the Grand Duchesses, apart from Anastasia, of course.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Michelle on July 25, 2004, 02:11:07 PM
Bummer  :(
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Janet_W. on October 22, 2004, 06:16:24 PM
Just received an e-mail from a lady in Canada asking how she might order Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna.

She is especially eager to obtain a copy since her mother would like to see it.

Anyone have suggestions? I purchased my copy ages ago, so I'm shorting out on this one.

Many thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Rhon on October 24, 2004, 03:19:17 PM
Quite a few sellers on Amazon are offering it both used and new. Search for it under the title and the page will come up where you can see all the sellers listings.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Angie_H on October 26, 2004, 01:26:44 PM
Question: how did AA feel about the movies that were made on her claims?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Evanescence on November 23, 2004, 03:27:36 PM
AA wasn't alive at the time Anastasia: The mystery of Anna was filmed. But a even more popular movie based on her was made in the 50's (when she was alive) what did she think of that one? Did she even watch it?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 24, 2005, 08:40:38 PM
Hi:

     I read somewhere here that some of you saw this awful movie named "Anastasia...Ana's story" starring Amy Irving. I liked it...until I read the REAL Anna Anderson's story. I'm not against fantasy in historical movies, but you must be very careful in them if you wanted not to change the whole story. You may believe Ana Anderson or not...but this movie WASN'T her biography at all.

     She NEVER meet her family and friends in a train; she NEVER had a sweet, handsome and absolutely great lover as Prince Erich...For there NEVER was such a Prince. He was an entirely made up character.  Gleb's last name was not Markov, and her sister wasn't named Irina. Gilliard was nothing as he was in real life and "Sasha" (Shura) Tegleva, was not an old woman married to a man 20 years younger than her (at least!  ;D) . When she was in New York, Gleb NEVER left her friend alone, shouting to her face that he didn't know who in h... she was. And of course, Ana NEVER meet Cyrill. NEVER.  >:( She never become happy (even if she wasn't GD Anastasia I think her life was very sad and she never could reach happyness for a reason or another) and he didn't have the luck to know a wonderful guy as Erik was.

                 As for the first part of the movie, I can't said I like it neither...Gilliard teaching the Tsar's children how to speak GERMAN!!!??? HUGH! Family and friends calling young Anastasia "Ana"? HUGH! OTM depicted as all alike girls, more than stupid , without personnality? HUGH! Anastasia being a girl about 11 or 12 years old, when she was 16-17? HUGH! Gleb in Ekaterinburg seeming to have exactly the same age that when she meet Ana in the 1920's? HUGH and more hugh!  >:(

                   Well...What may I said? Bad stuff! Avoid it if you may!

                     RealAnastasia.

P.S: Just a little thing more...Why we can't see Ana Virubova in almost none ot NAOTMAA films?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Janet_W. on May 25, 2005, 09:40:42 PM
To respond to your comments, RealAnastasia . . .

I agree with just about everything you say, and could cite other aspects of this movie as well. (Such as a short Alexandra!) But, I will say this in the movie's favor . . . I liked Amy Irving's performance very much, as well as all the other primary actors, and if anyone was ever born to play a wily old Russian Grand Duke, it was Rex Harrison!

In short, the movie works as a fantasy . . . a retelling of legend . . . a representation of popular folklore.

Now, as to why Anna Vyrubova isn't portrayed . . . well, I did see a Russian language film in which she was portrayed. But there was the inference that she was sexually licentious, or at least depraved. And, when you introduce Anna, some people are going to work the lesbian angle. A film from Anna's point of view would probably be best . . . showing her for what many of us have deduced her to be: a bit silly, prone to having the vapors, attached with doglike affection to Alexandra, but also something of a troublemaker at times . . . yet ultimately brave, and a very important "keeper of the flame."

Actually, telling the story from Anna's POV isn't a bad idea . . . See you at the publishers!  ;D
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 26, 2005, 06:03:37 PM
Hi, Janet_W:

                         Well, I must agree with you. A good movie portraying Ana, view through Ana's own eyes, would be just perfect! But perfect historical movies will never exist!  ;D I'm not very optimist in this. I must said that I never like a single historical movie completely. " Nicholas and Alexandra" is good, but have too many mistakes to said I like it.

                            Amy Irving performance is great. I think I said it somewhere. A wonderful actress, and a convincing Ana Anderson. Rex Harrison was excellent too...Olivia de Havilland is a fine Empress Marie in this movie. But the rest...Hmmm. I repeat it. Bad stuff.  ;D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: gorgeousbutterfly on May 21, 2007, 08:43:55 AM
When i was around 6-7 i saw this film with  my parents about the romanovs. it was mostly about Anastasia. in fact i'm pretty sure the title was Anastasia , it came in a two series video tape, so it was two tapes.I don't remember that much but i will tell you all that i can remember .it showed the OTMA (don't remember seeing alexi in it, although i'm sure i forgot) getting ready for the ball. it was beautifully directed.  i remember them going to the ball but the scenery was depicted with humility. I remember another scene with Anastasia going on a train, and the mood was very depressing. she was laying in bed and the condition was very poor. here i was able to empathize with her very  much, and at that age i was very sad and i remember being very teary eyed. anyway, then i remmeber Anasatasia trying to make everybody believe in her, and she was about to meet with her  aunt and they didnt' believe her. 

thats all i remember. i'm pretty sure with certainty the movie was called Anastasia, i remember seeing the box  and it had that name so it couldn't of been called Anne Anderson or had some long name to it..  i also know this movie was made before 1990 or around this time and not after because that is when i saw it. but it might be an old film i don't remember

I have been doing a search, on amazon and everywhere and cannot find this movie... i've done a google search and i can't find it :(.

i'd GREATLY appreciate it if somoene can give me ideas?

THANXS

I have been fasinated by the Romanov family all my life and a huge part of it was this movie, so it would mean ALOT to me if i find this movie.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: scarlett_riviera on May 21, 2007, 08:52:44 AM
Maybe it's the series based on Peter Kurth's book? I know it was a two-part series... the name is quite long though, as I recall... Anna Anderson something (I'm not sure!).. so it may not be it.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 21, 2007, 09:47:52 AM
Hello Gorgeousbutterfly,

This could be the TV movie based on Peter Kurth's book that Scarlett mentioned.
It was called "The Mystery of Anastasia" and made in the mid 80's.
It starred Amy Irving as Anna Anderson and Rex Harrison as Grand Duke Cyril and Olivia De Havilland as the Dowager Empress.

Larry
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Laura Mabee on May 21, 2007, 09:59:27 AM
It sounds like the movie you are thinking of is Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090638/).
I haven't found a thread on it in here, but you can access more information about it on the IMDB page above.
Here is a picture of the film cover:
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Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 21, 2007, 04:15:57 PM
The movie you are referring to is "Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna" and is very loosely based on Peter Kurth's book "Anastasia: The Riddle of Anna Anderson".

It's been recently released on DVD.

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http://www.amazon.com/Anastasia-Mystery-Anna-Amy-Irving/dp/B000I5X7WK/ref=sr_1_4/102-9456554-3108930?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179782013&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Anastasia-Mystery-Anna-Amy-Irving/dp/B000I5X7WK/ref=sr_1_4/102-9456554-3108930?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179782013&sr=1-4)

The story of the woman who insisted she was Anastasia, the youngest daughter of the last czar of Russia, is complicated. This 1986 telefilm makes it even more so because it's one of those "fact-based" dramas. Its most annoying invention is Anastasia's romance with a prince who never actually existed. Fiction aside, the first two-thirds of the 210-minute movie are dramatic and captivating. The Romanov family is imprisoned and executed, yet Anastasia reappears years later in Berlin in 1923; Amy Irving becomes the iron-willed yet fragile Anna who battles to be recognized by the remaining Romanovs. Gently paced and beautifully shot and staged, the film only starts to lose steam when Anna comes to New York to make her case in the American press. It takes a bunch of Americans, including Susan Lucci as a stateside Romanov relative, to make the tale seem common. Back in London, Olivia de Havilland is a treasure as the dowager empress who won't recognize Anastasia, although there is much evidence in her favor. The film is a great introduction to the mystery, despite its fiction-augmented recounting of history. After watching the movie, get the book it was largely based on, Anastasia: The Riddle of Anna Anderson by Peter Kurth, for a gripping read that just might make you believe in this princess. --Valerie J. Nelson
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: gorgeousbutterfly on May 21, 2007, 05:03:51 PM
Yes, i've seen this cover, and at first i really doubted that its that but my memory is really blured and probaly not accurate. so i will have to rent it.

thanx you so much!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: TheAce1918 on May 21, 2007, 07:22:29 PM
Another Anastasia movie? Lord above!  ::)

For some reason or another...this one looks a little more interesting than its predecessors.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 21, 2007, 07:42:09 PM
It would have been good if it hadn't had that fictional "Prince Eric" character who played Anna Anderson's lover, which she didn't have one at all in real life. And the Amy Irving character is just nothing like the real Anna Anderson who was very mentally disturbed. This character here seems like she had a pretty happy life and lived happily ever after. This is nothing like the true life of Anna Anderson who was a very sad and disturbed person.

I also hate the part when Anna A. arrives in America and waves to the reporters and the audience like she just loves it, but the real AA covered her face upon arriving to New York and wouldn't leave until some of the reporters had left, but she was still hounded nonetheless.

Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 21, 2007, 07:54:43 PM
There's a complete Romanov filmography by Greg King on his website which gives some good info on this movie. I was horrified to read it claimed to be historically accurate!

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In 1983, Little, Brown published Peter Kurth’s critically acclaimed book “Anastasia: The Riddle of Anna Anderson.” Given the appeal of the subject matter, coupled with the success of previous film adaptations of the Anastasia story, it was perhaps inevitable that Hollywood would once again turn its attention to the mystery of the missing Grand Duchess.

Telecom Entertainment purchased the pre-publication film rights to the book. Already in the midst of planning their own Anastasia movie, they wanted to prevent a rival production based on Kurth’s book. “I was of course naive,” Kurth says. “I didn’t know Hollywood then as I do now. All they want is a book between covers that they can wave around at meetings as ‘the property.’ They don’t actually read it. I was horrified when I read the shooting script.”(1) NBC-Television bought the broadcast rights from Telecom, and hired Kurth to serve as a consultant for the resulting mini-series. “At the time,” he recalls, “I was naive enough to think that the network would actually consult me when they got around to filming.”(2)To write the screenplay, NBC hired Marvin Chomsky and James Goldman. Chomsky, who had already won Emmys for “Attica,” “Inside the Third Reich,” and “Holocaust,” also took the helm as director. Goldman, who had won the Academy Award for best screenplay for his adaptation of “The Lion in Winter,” had also been responsible for “Nicholas and Alexandra” in 1971.These developments seemed promising. Soon, however, there were other concerns. “I might have guessed I was in trouble,” says Kurth, “when the producers called me up to ask if Anastasia had ever had ‘boyfriends.’ They wanted to know who they were. They wanted to know how many there were. They wanted me to agree with them when they said that if she hadn’t had any they’d have to ‘make one up.’”(3)Chomsky and Goldman were under orders from NBC President Brandon Tartikoff to churn out a piece of romantic melodrama. “I want more romance,” Tartikoff declared after skimming through a draft of the script. “When I think Anastasia, I think romance.”(4) Kurth, meanwhile, could only watch helplessly as fictional incident after fictional incident was piled on to the storyline, in an attempt to satisfy Tartikoff’s romantic aspirations.

Further problems lay ahead. “I had written a serious book about one of the great mysteries of the century,” Kurth declares. “Anastasia was a Russian Grand Duchess, and I’d imagined that for the film version of her story an actress would be found whom we might, at least, suppose was Russian. I certainly wasn’t prepared for it when the network announced it had given the part to Lindsay Wagner.”(5)Wagner, a statuesque blonde, was best known for her role as the “Bionic Woman,” a series spun-off from the successful ABC Television series “The Six Million Dollar Man.” Desperate, Kurth rang his agent, and tried to convey his frustration to the producers. Eventually, they relented, and cast a German actress in the role of Anna Anderson.(6)  This, too, proved a mistake, and finally Amy Irving won the coveted role.

“The role of Anna Anderson was so appealing,” Irving explained, "the transition she makes, the depths of emotion she experiences...all of that was so tempting, I couldn’t resist.”(7) Irving also brought something unique to the portrayal: conviction. “What was amazing for me was to see photographs of Anna Anderson and of the Tsar’s daughters,” she said. “Putting them together, it’s just so obvious....I do admire Anna Anderson. She was a real quirky character, but if you went through seeing your family murdered and survived, you’d be quirky, too.”(8) At the end of the production, Irving’s then husband, Stephen Spielberg, presented her with a small Faberge egg adorned with an “A” on a gold chain that had belonged to the real Anastasia, and which the actress proudly wore to several interviews promoting the motion picture.

Other cast members had their own beliefs and doubts. “I talked at one point to a man whose grandfather, the former King of Denmark, was present when Anna Anderson was tested,” said Omar Sharif, who portrayed Nicholas II. “When the grandfather came out, he said, ‘Things that this girl knows no one else could possibly know.’ So if she was a charlatan, she was a brilliant charlatan.” And Susan Lucci, who played the fictional character of Princess Darya, loosely modeled on Princess Xenia of Russia, declared, “I really believe she was Anastasia.”(9)Claire Bloom, who portrayed Empress Alexandra, felt differently. “I’m a realist,” she said. “After all, the family was shot and bayoneted and chopped up, and God knows what indescribable things. And I can’t believe the Bolsheviks wouldn't have said: ‘Where’s the fourth girl?’ On the other hand, extraordinary things have happened. I mean, she did know things....But it’s the story that attracts people, it’s a marvelous, romantic story-Cinderella without a ball.”[i/]

read the rest here: http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/ (http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/)
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: scarlett_riviera on May 21, 2007, 08:36:21 PM
Wow, I didn't know the actors actually believed she was Anastasia. But I liked the first part of this film, it was a bit gripping and I felt sad when I watched the execution scene.  :( And YES, I was annoyed with that fictional prince! He even LOOKED annoying. lol
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: TheAce1918 on May 21, 2007, 09:17:58 PM
Other cast members had their own beliefs and doubts. “I talked at one point to a man whose grandfather, the former King of Denmark, was present when Anna Anderson was tested,” said Omar Sharif, who portrayed Nicholas II. “When the grandfather came out, he said, ‘Things that this girl knows no one else could possibly know.’ So if she was a charlatan, she was a brilliant charlatan.” And Susan Lucci, who played the fictional character of Princess Darya, loosely modeled on Princess Xenia of Russia, declared, “I really believe she was Anastasia.”i/]

read the rest here: http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/ (http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/)


Interesting.  Keeping DNA out of reach here...the fact that Anna knew more than any other soul would know immediately about the Romanovs is truly mind boggling.  Something that not even medical science has yet to conquer.  It only leaves this open to the minds of speculation about the small print during Anna's life.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 21, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
Other cast members had their own beliefs and doubts. “I talked at one point to a man whose grandfather, the former King of Denmark, was present when Anna Anderson was tested,” said Omar Sharif, who portrayed Nicholas II. “When the grandfather came out, he said, ‘Things that this girl knows no one else could possibly know.’ So if she was a charlatan, she was a brilliant charlatan.” And Susan Lucci, who played the fictional character of Princess Darya, loosely modeled on Princess Xenia of Russia, declared, “I really believe she was Anastasia.”i/]

read the rest here: http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/ (http://www.kingandwilson.com/filmography/)


Interesting.  Keeping DNA out of reach here...the fact that Anna knew more than any other soul would know immediately about the Romanovs is truly mind boggling.  Something that not even medical science has yet to conquer.  It only leaves this open to the minds of speculation about the small print during Anna's life.

Yes, before the DNA I really believed that Anna Anderson had to be Anastasia. You can only imagine how shocked I was when the DNA proved she was someone who was the exact opposite of Grand Duchess Anastasia, a Prussian factory worker! I've accepted the DNA results, simply because there has yet to be any evidence that has come to light suggesting that the DNA was flawed. But if there ever were to be, I wouldn't be that suprised. Even as Franziska, AA is still an interesting subject, an enigma of sorts. No imposter in history has ever been so successful! I'm fascinated by how long her court case to get the death certificate overturned began in 1938, but a final verdict wasn't handed down until 1970! And because of that, it was acknowledged for the very first time in a court of law that the death of Grand Duchess Anastasia in Ekaterinburg had never been considered a historically proven fact. And even though it's now been proven AA wasn't Anastasia, the true fate of the tsar's youngest daughter is still unknown. The rumors of her possible escape have been around since the massacre happened in 1918. The Russian scientists have obviously attempted to destroy this myth by placing the tallest female skeleton in Anastasia's coffin, yet AN was the smallest of all the Grand Duchesses. I really hope the riddle of Anastasia can be conclusively solved during my lifetime.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: TheAce1918 on May 21, 2007, 10:17:01 PM
I don't want to sound too cross here.  But I hope that it is never solved.  Now before you all crucify me...hear me out.  Of course, on a spiritual level as well as common sense and decency...I wish all of the conflict and mystique regarding the fate of the Romanovs came to a peaceful end.  It's been over nine decades already!

But on an academic, philisophical, and moral level...the fate of the Romanovs is what has spread so much interest.  Look at everyone on this forum for Lord's sake!  Personally, my interest and study of the Romanovs, helped launch my history major into new realms.  First it was just learning about the imperial family themselves....then the music of their time, as well as the food, entertainment, and on, and on, and on...!

But this is just my own opinion...right now, as we speak, I'll bet you anything that half of the people here are already hiring hitmen to come find me... ;) :D
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Bob_the_builder on May 21, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
You better watch out Ace ;D just kidding.

But you are right, how many people have become interested in the Romanovs because of the mysteries which surround them?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: koloagirl on July 11, 2007, 05:25:56 PM
 :D

Aloha all!

Sorry for reviving this very old topic!   But I saw some clips from this 1980's era TV movie on YouTube yesterday -- and while it is certainly a hodgepodge of scattered historical truths and inaccuracies (not to mention fantasies!) -- I was amazed to see so many
big-time actors and actresses of that time!  And one that was completely unknown at the time as well!

Omar Sharif -- well, what can I say?  He was a dreamy Dr. Zhivago in revolutionary Russia, but here, he looks more like Alexander III than Nicholas II -- his acting was sympathetic and if you could get your mind off the fact that physically he bore absolutely no resemblance to Nicky -- he was emotionally more of what I at least think Nicky was like - especially with OTMAA.  But what a casting choice!

Claire Bloom -- again, a big-time actress of her time.  Physically, not really Alexandra, but not as far off as some others. Not a terribly umsympathetic portrayal -- certainly not as bad as the majority (other than Janet Suzman, who I thought was a really great Alexandra).

Olivia DeHaviland -- a legend!  And a little "zaftig" for Marie Feodorovna, but at least she seemed sympathetic in her portrayal of Minnie.

Rex Harrison -- again, a legend!  And while I really have no personal conception of what Cyril was like in real life, he seemed to fit the part of a arrogant Grand Duke very well!

Christian Bale -- I was so surprised to see him playing Alexei -- I wasn't sure it was him, until I looked it up on IMDB and found that this was his very first film role ever.  Amazing example of a child actor who has grown up and had a successful film career!  I also thought that his portrayal of Alexei was quite good -- maybe better than the somewhat bitter portrayal in "Nicholas and Alexandra."

How ever did they get such big time names to play in a lowly TV movie?  They certainly went for star-quality in this, that's for sure!

Other than that -- I did like the little girl (too little) who played Anastasia as a youngster -- looking her up on IMDB shows that she has maintained a successful stage and TV career right up to the present as well. 

Okay, enough of my blathering on -- just my thoughts!  That's what you get when you have too much time and spend some of it on YouTube!
 ::)
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: dmitri on July 19, 2007, 03:04:30 AM
Omar Sharif was hilarious as Nicholas II. Nobody beats Michael Jayston in Nicholas and Alexandra. Bloom was good as Alexandra. Olivia De Havilland was very badly miscast as Maria Feodorovna. Irene Worth was so much better in Nicholas and Alexandra. It was such a load of rubbish. It was loosely based on Peter Kurth's rubbish so it was not surprising. Amy Iriving and Rex Harrison had some good scenes and Jan Niklas was good as the fictional Prince Erich.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: PrincessSophie on August 12, 2007, 07:46:58 AM
Hi, Janet_W:

                          Well, I must agree with you. A good movie portraying Ana, view through Ana's own eyes, would be just perfect! But perfect historical movies will never exist!  ;D I'm not very optimist in this. I must said that I never like a single historical movie completely. " Nicholas and Alexandra" is good, but have too many mistakes to said I like it.

                             Amy Irving performance is great. I think I said it somewhere. A wonderful actress, and a convincing Ana Anderson. Rex Harrison was excellent too...Olivia de Havilland is a fine Empress Marie in this movie. But the rest...Hmmm. I repeat it. Bad stuff.  ;D

RealAnastasia.

Whatever you say about this movie (Anastasia: Mystery of Anna (1986)), it had great actors in it.

Amy Irving | Olivia De Havilland | Omar Sharif | Rex Harrison | Edward Fox | Claire Bloom | Elke Sommer | Jan Niklas.  You may not know this but the movie also starred a very young Christian Bale as Alexei!

One of the problems with the movie is in the run up to their execution, Anna is played by a young actress so physically unlike Amy Irving (who plays the adult "Anna") that it actually lends weight to the doubts about her identity later on!

I understand that was largely based on "Anastasia: The Riddle of Anna Anderson" by Peter Kurth, and is touching in bits despite its fiction-augmented recounting of history.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: PrincessSophie on August 12, 2007, 08:18:24 AM
My apologies for repeating the list of characters summarised by Koloagirl!
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: nena on August 12, 2007, 08:50:39 AM
You are right, RealAnastasia, that movie is bad..... >:( >:(
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: dmitri on August 12, 2007, 11:41:57 AM
Yes so many of the leads are badly miscast. The show goes in for names rather than actors who are suited to the roles. The script was really poor and very corny. It was fiction from start to finish.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on August 12, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
Yes so many of the leads are badly miscast. The show goes in for names rather than actors who are suited to the roles. The script was really poor and very corny. It was fiction from start to finish.
I agree that movie was horrible I did not like it at all it was so stupid. The whole script and movie was pathetic and worthless. It was a complete waste the actors was horrible everything was lousy. >:( It was focusing on Anna Anderson it had nothing to do with the real romanovs.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: AnnaAnderson101 on July 20, 2008, 08:14:41 PM
how many of you seen this movie. i happen to have it. anyways everytime i watch the movie i'm only able to get through 80 miniutes because i get a little bored. I have questions for the people who have gotton through the whole movie. dose Anna meet the dowager empress maria. what happens in the end.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Lalee on July 20, 2008, 08:22:32 PM
No, she doesn't. From what I remember of the film, the Empress may have been considering to see her towards the end, but she dies. I didn't really like this movie at all, but try a search on YouTube.com. I'm pretty sure you can watch it there. ;)
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: nena on July 20, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
I watched full movie. No, Dowager Marie died before Anna visited her. She only met Tsar's sister, Olga Alexandrovna. She though about her brother Alexei, her executed family...In the end, she went to trbunal, and wanted to get her surname again...'till 70s.They comparased photos, handwrittings.....Cyril was against her, etc.  My memories.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: AnnaAnderson101 on July 20, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
thanks. I was also wondering what the name of that one guy who befriends anna and they also share a kiss in the movie.
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: Lalee on July 20, 2008, 10:05:47 PM
thanks. I was also wondering what the name of that one guy who befriends anna and they also share a kiss in the movie.

Prince Erich?
Title: Re: Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna - Amy Irving
Post by: AnnaAnderson101 on July 21, 2008, 11:36:36 AM
thanks