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The office was on Kirochnaia St, 24  The St.Petersburg  phone book for 1914 puts it as: "Издательство А. Цинзерлинг и Ко. Директор ван-дер Ховен, Фредерик Адрианович (who resided at the same address, as well). Цена за год 4 рубля ВП 1914"

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Imperial Russian History / Re: Returning Former Property?
« on: April 06, 2004, 10:55:58 AM »
I have not heard about any restitution laws so far.
Antonio, imagine for a second that Scheremetiev Palace is returned to it's rightful owners(?). Who can afford the maintenance of such piece of real estate now? The remaining contents(there is not much, I must admit) will soon be in Nick's office or, if Russia is lucky, bought by another Vekselberg. There is a rather nice music museum there with a concert hall now, much enjoyed by all.
If it was a residential building, what do you suggest should be done to inhabitants? In Latvia people were just kicked out of houses they lived in for a long time (surely investing something in renovation etc) How fair is that?
I have huge respect for the first wave of immigration, but not so sure that their distant relations can claim something now (Like Xenia Sfiris).
Can I also mention that it was  not just Romanovs/aristocracy who have lost property in Soviet times. Think of ''raskulachivanie'' - millions of peasants were effected. On the subject of which - should I insist on my grandfather's 3 cows and a house to be returned? I think I will manage without........
Mescherskie were lucky to be well received by local residents. Imagine if the land they claim has been in use etc? No, it smells another redestribution/Revolution. We had enough.
Galina

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No, Janet, complete soapy rubbish!
Galina

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Rasputin / Re: Rasputin
« on: April 05, 2004, 08:37:24 AM »
Thierry
Xenia Sfiris' interview was published in last issue of Pensée russe/Russkaia mysl (Paris).
It was not very interesting, though. She only met Felix briefly when a little girl. On the subject of Rasputin, she was unhappy of what Radzinsky wrote about him (homosexual, hit Yussupov etc)and complained that she has no where to stay when visiting St.P.(Although I read long time ago that she has been, actually, offered a ''flat'' in their Moika mansion. Interesting arrangement...)
Galina

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Romanov and Imperial Russia Links / Re: Traveling in Russia
« on: April 04, 2004, 11:38:19 AM »
Go on your own! Almost all Romanov Palaces are open to general public (museums, concert halls etc) If language is a problem it is easier to hire an interpretor for a day or two, to sort tickets etc out (American news paper ''St.Petersburg Times'' has listings). Will save yourself a fortune.
Galina

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Rasputin / Re: Rasputin
« on: April 04, 2004, 11:04:49 AM »
Thanks for your support, Arleen :).
Galina(3710)

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Dear Janet,
I am pleased you liked  ''the Barber...''. I kept on thinking that lovely Julia Ormond (she did the part of Catherine the Great before, as well) looked just like photoes of young Minnie! Or was it due to period costumes? One petty comment:I would have thought that the Empress would not wear a court dress for Military review.
It was very Russian in lots of linguistic details, emphasis on ''feelings'' other then logic and just plain proud enjoyment of being Russian! People were writting to Michalkov that he reminded them of how great the country was and how it should be.
I forgot to mention that there were (at least) 2 films about Alexander II affair with Dolgorukaia recently in Russia. And scandalous Anastasia Volochkova declared that she desires to do a part of D. in next movie. No doubt she will get sponsors fast. (Actually she does resemble Katherine, can she act is another question)
Galina

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Rasputin / Re: Rasputin
« on: April 04, 2004, 09:26:27 AM »
You made me worry that I do not understand plain Russian any more :)
Re-read ''Rasputin'' By Radzinsky over weekend, half way through at the moment -  still no sign of an affair between A and R! Quite the opposite, in fact : ''Alexandra's great love (for N!) was sacred to R''. Could it be that editors has spiced the English edition up?
R's sourses are as good as any other's, so why to deny him a  right to write the way he sees things? There can't be any monopoly on historical truth.
And he probably does not really need to try hard to sell his books. Not only he has a multimillion audience in Russia, I can't think of any other Russian author who would get 3 books published in the West over the period of 10 years, one after another.

I would also interpret his mentioning of  Anna being ''in love'' with A not in sexual contect, but rather phycological. Being hurt by her marriage Anna could  be ''off men''  emotionally  at least and found female company more comfortable.
There is an excellent 4 volume collection of memories on Rasputin. Great fun to read. They are all contemporaries, they have been there, met the man, but have totally opposite views - what chances we have to find the truth about him?
This is not right that Alexandra never ever met any males without Nicolas around. This was not a harem: ladies in waiting, daughters were always by hand. And she did visit  Anna's house to see Rasputin more then once.
In a way Nicolas was right, insisting that friendship with Rasputin was their private affair. In only A. could keep R. away from politics! Imagine the strength of public opinion if people, who were not born murderes, came to the conclusion this was the only way. (It was funny to read Xenia Sfiris recent interview, where she wondered, how someone as kind as Felix could possibly murder anyone: ''No one could belive it!'') Radzinsky suggests that he was protecting Dmitrii taking the blame on himself, interestingly....
There is a little film with Vera Coralli acting and dancing on ''History of Russian ballet'' video, have you seen her, Bob?
Galina

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Romanov and Imperial Russia Links / Re: More Sites
« on: April 01, 2004, 06:05:17 AM »
sorry if I am repearting someone else, just looked through a web site of Nicolai Romanov and quite liked it:
www.nikolairomanov.com

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Rasputin / Re: Rasputin
« on: April 01, 2004, 04:17:16 AM »
I expected you would say something like that, Greg.
There is a difference between a ''historian'' and  ''writer writting on historical subject'', as R. calles himself.
He did not invent the Khlusty line (or Anna's lesbian tendencies), though. I have heard it before. And he does not actually say: ''this is the  true as it was'', he just merely suggesting, that it could be the case.
Anyway, Radzinky has a very wise responce to his critics ''You are right''.
Let him ''be'', please! :) His book is not the worst thing ever written about of Rasputin.
G.

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Rasputin / Rasputin
« on: April 01, 2004, 02:47:28 AM »
But there is a new (fairly) biograthy of Rasputin, written by (much critisized here) Radzinsky. And he sounds if not sympathetic, but at least trying to understand his charachter.
Galina

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Slave of love (''Raba liubvi''?) with Elena Solovei? Bolsheviks were so NOT shown as heroes there. At least this was not the impression I have got.
Watched Agoniia when it was first released(early 80s?).  
If Klimov just meant to condemn Romanovs (again) he would have found easier ways. Historians would always complain of inaccuracies, it happens with almost every film based on history.
Alexei Petrenko (Rasputin) is a great actor. Happy to agree with Greg on something! :)
One might want to watch another Romanov related movie, called ''the Barber of Siberia''. (Same director as the Slave of Love and one of sane monarchists BTW - Nikita Mikhalkov makes an appearance as Alexander III). Russophobes be warned - it is VERY unappologetically(!) Russian.
Bob are you asking about ''Romanovy: Ventsenosnaia sem'ia?'' I am slightly worried by pompous title. Have not seen it yet. But Gleb Panfilov is a very serious director, so it must be worth it.
Somehow I never ever  liked any Russia-related film done in the West. They always look fake. Sort of like restaraunts which have to adjust with local tastes to survive.
Is it not always the case that each country is somehow better qualified to produce films about itself?
Galina

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Oh, please, let's stop here.
Anyone who has ANY idea of what real Family was like would not think for a second that they would sell the survived relative for a bank account or whatever else. I have never met any claimants personally and found it amusing (though predictable) that one would turn up here. I am sure Romanovs have enough common sense not to take all those wild stories to heart, they are part of history, it is inevitable!
It is regrettable that it has caused such a turmoil here. Not the first  and surely not he last survival story, so what?
Galina

No, back to our ''usual business'':

Louise, I have read that Wilhelm has tried to arrange for Ella to leave Moscow after the Revolution via German Embassador (which she refused). Was is not rather nice of him  to care about her after all those years? (Hm, it might be the only appealing thing I have ever read about him in connection with Romanovs)

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Hi Louise,
what makes you think Romanovs detested their German relatives? Apart from Maria Feodorovna all Russian Empresses in the XIX century were Germans and family ties seemed to be quite  strong. I can only think of N&A dislike of Kaiser Wilhelm, due to his personality, not nationality.
(MF complained  that she had to keep her hatered for Germany  to herself all her life till the WWI. So perhaps this was not a popular opinion?)
Galina

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Bob when was it  a Pushkin Museum? Or are you talking about Pushkin's Liceum nearby?
Surely from Soviet point of view Pushkin was  more worthy to be commemorated then the last Tsar.
You would strongly disagree but I sort of like the way the Palace, the Park, the Cathedral and the Gorodok are at the moment. There are no hords of  tourists, and it feels good  to wonder around and think of the Family who lived there.
Runied world, ruined lives, ruined Palace. Very fitting.
I read RFA was suggesting that they should have been re-burried there, not in StP&P's.
Galina

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