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Former Deputy Prime Minister, fierce opponent of Vladimir Putin, and one time chairman of the State Romanov Commission has been reported killed in a Moscow street near the Kremlin ... shot four times in the back by a drive-by assassin...


Telemundo in Oklahoma City...

Investigator Solovyov's response to the Church:

From Today's Interfax... August 20th 2012

Materials on Romanov family execution found in Brussels can be studied without resuming official investigation - Investigations Committee

Moscow, August 20, Interfax - The Russian Investigations Committee currently does not see any good reasons to resume the investigation into the killing of Nicholas II in connection with the materials by White Guard investigator Nikolay Sokolov in a Brussels church.

"There will probably be no initiatives from us to resume the criminal case. If the church files a request, we will decide what to do," Vladimir Solovyov, senior investigator with the Main Criminalistics Department of the Investigations Committee who investigated the case involving the killing of the tsar's family, told Interfax on Monday.

"We don't know for sure yet what has been found in Brussels," Solovyov said.

"We have no position that a criminal case will not be opened. Everything depends on what has been found. However, it's no longer 1992, when he did not have ay evidence. Now that a lot of tests have been performed another proof of that the remains are those of the tsar's family are unlikely to give us anything new," Solovyov said.

"We have no doubt that the remains are those of the tsar's family. As to the materials found in Brussels, the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia have not asked the Investigations Committee to perform additional studies. Such studies can be performed without opening a criminal case," Solovyov said.

According to earlier reports, materials by investigator Sokolov, who investigated the killing of Russia's last Tsar Nicholas II and his family on the orders of Admiral Kolchak in 1919, were found during the reconstruction of the Church of Job the Long-Suffering in Brussels.

Representatives of the Romanov family said a study of the Brussels materials is likely to yield evidence on the issue of the authenticity of the tsar's family remains.

In January 2011, the Investigations Committee completed the investigation into the criminal case involving the killing of Nicholas II's family, recognizing the remains found near Yekaterinburg as those of the tsar's family.

The Russian Orthodox Church and the Romanov family have not recognized the remains as those of the tsar's family.

In late July 2012, it became known that the Moscow patriarchate may reconsider its stance on the "Yekaterinburg remains." Patriarch Krill told the Holy Synod in Kyiv that important information on the circumstances of the death of the tsar's family had been received from New York, where the spiritual center of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia is located.

The Romanov family said it will accept the position of the Russian Orthodox Church on the issue of the remains of Russia's last emperor.



News Links / Cossacks modern day march on Paris...
« on: August 13, 2012, 01:49:02 AM »
So... The Cossacks have picked Alexei's 108th birthday to start a bicentennial march on Paris....


 From Today's Interfax

2012-07-26 16:54:00
New proof will hopefully end dispute over royal remains authenticity - House of Romanov (updated)

Moscow, July 26, Interfax - The House of Romanov will be guided by the Russian Orthodox Church's position on the authenticity of the remains of the family of the last Russian tsar Nicholas II.

The House of Romanov head, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, will recognize the remains buried at the Sts Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg as those of the royal family, if the Russian Orthodox Church says they are authentic, the House of Romanov spokesman Alexander Zakatov told Interfax on Thursday.

The Russian Orthodox Church and the House of Romanov have not recognized yet that the remains are authentic, citing the absence of sufficient evidence.

It emerged on Thursday that the Moscow Patriarchate may change its position on the "Yekaterinburg remains."

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia told the Holy Synod in Kiev on Thursday that important information has arrived from New York, where the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia is headquartered, connected with circumstances of the death of the imperial family. "I hope these circumstances will help shape our position, including on the so-called 'Yekaterinburg remains,'" the Russian Patriarch said.

"We have learnt that material evidence - a report by investigator Nikolay Sokolov, [who probed the execution of the royal family in 1919 on commission from Admiral Alexander Kolchak] - was discovered in Brussels some time ago, when the church built in commemoration of the martyr-tsar was being restored," Zakatov said.

"Perhaps these materials and additional tests will throw light on some aspects of the situation. It would be premature to speculate on radical change, but Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna has been informed of the latest developments by Metropolitan Hilarion of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia," he said.

"We hope a new investigation will lead us to more objective results than those obtained by a commission in 1998," he added.

"The Russian Orthodox Church's refusal to recognize the Yekaterinburg remains as authentic were due to serious doubts. If these doubts are dispelled, the church will probably change its position. And in this case the head of the House of Romanov will join the church in recognizing the remains as authentic," Zakatov said.

He said that lead containers were found when a wall of the church was being restored in Brussels, and one carried a letter about the history of this material evidence, he said.

"Investigator Sokolov handed the material evidence to Prince Shirinsky-Shikhmatov at one time. Then the prince's son handed it over to the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. It was initially kept at an Orthodox church in Paris and was then passed to the church under construction in Brussels," Zakatov said.

"The lead containers carried glass jars filled with soil from the Ganina Yama site where the bodies of the royal family and their domestic servants were burned," he said.

"The glass jars are filled with soil and clay mixed with tissues that remained after the bodies were burned. This provides certain genetic matter for further tests," he said.

Eleven people, including members of the Russian Imperial Family and people from their entourage, were shot at the Urals regional council presidium's order in the early hours of July 17, 1918.

A grave with nine bodies was found on Staraya Koptyakovskaya Road near Yekaterinburg in July 1991. The remains were identified as those of Emperor Nicholas II, his 46-year-old wife Alexandra Fyodorovna, their daughters Olga, 22, Tatyana, 21, and Anastasia, 17, and their servants Yevgeny Botkin, 53, Anna Demidova, 40, Aloizy Trupp, 62, and Ivan Kharitonov, 48.

The remains of two more people were discovered during archaeological excavation works 70 kilometers south of the first grave on July 26, 2007. The remains have still not been buried, but numerous expert analyses indicate that the remains were most likely those of Crown Prince Alexei and his sister Maria.

The Presidium of the Russian Supreme Court ruled to rehabilitate Nicholas II and his family members on October 1, 2008.

The Investigative Committee said in January 2011 that it had completed an investigation into the death of Nicholas II, his family members and entourage and closed the criminal case.


News Links / Maria Vladimirovna calls for new investigation
« on: September 20, 2010, 09:02:42 AM »
From Interfax/Religion:
20 September 2010, 15:52
Romanov family wants new probe into Nicholas II killing

Moscow, September 20, Interfax - The Romanov family is demanding a new criminal case to investigate the killing of Russia's last Tsar and his family.

"There needs to be a new criminal case and a new investigator," Alexander Zakatov, director of the Romanov family chancellery, told Interfax on Monday.

"There is a need to make a final decision on who the people whose remains were found in Yekaterinburg were and who is buried in the St. Petersburg Peter and Paul Cathedral. The state, church, and the Romanov family need to reach a single opinion. Russian society should have no doubts about the remains," Zakatov said.

In late August, the Moscow Basmanny Court reversed the decision made by an investigator with the Investigative Committee on January 15, 2009, to close the criminal case on the basis of the Romanov family killing. The Investigative Committee did not contest the decision.

On October 1, 2008, the Russian Supreme Court made a decision to rehabilitate Nicholas II and his family. On January 15, 2009, the Investigative Committee issued an order to close the criminal case.

The Romanov family disagreed with the Investigative Committee's decision that the Romanovs fell victims of an ordinary crime, saying they were killed on behalf of the state.

The Romanov family earlier said it is not ready to recognize the authenticity of the remains believed to be those of the Romanovs, which were found near Yekaterinburg, saying it would be guided by the position of the Russian Orthodox Church on this matter.

The Romanovs and people close to them (11 people in total) were shot and killed on a decision made by the Urals Council in the early hours of July 17, 1918.


What did they say Tsar Nicholas was worth in 1917, $30 billion or so?
Its doubled!!

... and that's just one shipment of gold... not including all of the other money and properties that Nicholas had owned.

... and that one 64 billion dollar gold shipment alone still makes Nicholas worth at least ten billion more than either Microsoft's Bill Gates or Mexico's Carlos Slim.

Just a quick calculation...

Today's price for gold is $1245 per ounce.

Gold is measured in troy ounces and there are 32,150 troy ounces in a single metric ton...

$1245 x 32150 troy ounces = $40,026,750.00 (40 million dollars) per metric ton

$40,026,750.00 x 1600 tons = $64,042,800,000.00

That's 64 *Billion*, 42 million, eight hundred thousand dollars worth ... just sitting on the bottom of a Siberian lake for the past nine decades !?!?!?!!!!

News Links / Re: Georgy wants the Ekaterinburg remains re-examined
« on: June 16, 2010, 09:22:39 PM »

Finally... a statement from the Church... a call for patience... and
yet more delays..

So what are attempting to suggest here Mr Kendrick?

Two full years after the identification tests.... It is the Orthodox Church that now "urges not to hurry official confirmation" of the identification of "probable remnants" found in 2007.

It is the leaders of the Orthodox Church you should now be asking that question.

No one else.

News Links / Re: Georgy wants the Ekaterinburg remains re-examined
« on: June 16, 2010, 04:47:36 PM »

Finally... a statement from the Church... a call for patience... and
yet more delays..

From Today's Interfax/Religion

Russian Church urges not to hurry confirming identification of Crown
Prince Alexey and Grand Princess Mary's probable remnants

Moscow, June 16, Interfax - The Russian Orthodox Church urges not to
hurry to officially confirm identification of remnants found in 2007
not far from Yekaterinburg, which, according to investigators, belong
to Nicholas II's children.

"I believe that nothing makes us hurry today. Funerals will tempt us
to think that we can draw a line under the affair. However, it's not
true," head of the Synodal Department for Church and Society Relations
Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin told Interfax-Religion on Wednesday.

Commenting on the recent statement made by the Senior Criminalist of
the Forensic Science Office at the Russian Prosecutor's Investigative
Committee Vladimir Solovyov that the remains found in 2007 indeed
belonged to Crown Prince Alexey and Grand Princess Mary, Fr. Vsevolod
urged "to seriously compare all scientists' divergent positions" on
the question.

Besides, the Moscow Patriarchate official believes it necessary to
compare "results of the investigation held under Kolchak to the
current investigation and still the most important is to name those
who are guilty."


...And now this as well, appearing in the Kyiv Post..

Investigative Committee: Nicholas II executed without Lenin's order:
Moscow, June 15 (Interfax) - The last Russian Emperor Nicholas II and
his family were executed by order of the Urals Council without the
consent of Vladimir Lenin and Yakov Sverdlov, the two most senior
Communist leaders at the time, the Investigative Committee under the
Prosecutor General's Office said.

"This is totally correct. Without their knowledge. We have not a
single document that would show that there was an official decision to
execute the Tsar's family," Vladimir Solovyov, a senior criminologist
with the Investigative Committee, said on Ekho Moskvy radio on

On January 15, 2009, Solovyov, who was a serious crime investigator at
the time, issued a resolution terminating a criminal inquiry into the
killing of Nicholas II and his family.

The head of the House of Romanov, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna,
has appealed against the resolution.

See more at:

News Links / Re: Georgy wants the Ekaterinburg remains re-examined
« on: May 12, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »
Well now... Here's a surprise!  We all knew this court date was coming... but who knew the court would rule in Maria Vladimirovna's favour? :-)

From Today's Interfax/Religion

12 May 2010, 17:20
Tsar murder case dropped illegally – ruling

Moscow, May 12, Interfax - Moscow City Court has ruled that the criminal case over the murder of the last Russian Emperor Nicholas II and his family was closed illegally.

The court thus granted an appeal from lawyer German Lukyanov, who represents the interests of Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, the disputed head of the Romanov Dynasty, an Interfax correspondent reported.

The court ruled that the case files be sent back to the lower court and ordered a second hearing by a different panel of judges.

On March 19, Moscow's Basmanny Court rejected Lukyanov's complaint by upholding the decision to terminate the criminal case over the killing of Tsar Nicholas, his wife Empress Alexandra, and their five children, in July 1918.

On October 1, 2008, the Russian Supreme Court ruled on the rehabilitation of Nicholas II and his family, however, on January 15, 2009, a court ruling terminated the case over the execution of the royal family.

The House of Romanovs disagreed with the Investigative Committee's claims that the royal family were victims of ordinary criminals and
insisted that they were killed by the Soviet Communist regime of that time.


News Links / Re: Georgy wants the Ekaterinburg remains re-examined
« on: March 29, 2010, 11:50:13 PM »
But Lisa, his mother is Half Basgartin[ sp ?], his father a Hohenzollern. I agree with FA.

But, Robert, his lineage is in no way subjective. It's not a matter of agree/disagree. His mother is the great-great granddaughter of a Romanov emperor - regardless of her marriage or her parents' marriage.

Yes, but...

In a line of Royal succession that is based solely on male primogeniture, Georgy's father is *not* a Romanov. His father is a Hohenzollern.

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