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Rob
Thanks for the kind note.

I will indeed pass on a hello from Albert B to Sonya, who by the way I haven't seen for thirty odd years. I asked her over the phone if she remembered me and she replied 'You were the young boy with the curly hair'   Alas, not anymore :-((

Arkadi :-))

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Nicola
Thank you for your calming presence.

Okay, let me try and put this into perspective.

1/The photograph is definitely my father.  The photograph is definitely not doctored with shoulder boards or medals. I have 45 years experience in the film business, many of them in the camera department and much experience in professional photography - I know what I'm talking about.
So either he's in fancy costume (a possibility) or he genuinely fought in the civil war and I did not know this.
 
2/As I explained before, I said I'd never  heard him talk about fighting in the civil war. Which is not the same as saying categorically he didn't fight in the civil war.
The few stories I have from him about Russia were told to me over 60 years ago so some of the chronology and details might a little confused, but not the essence.

3/My father lived in London amongst the Russian community in Exile for over thirty five years.  The majority of whom, were titled privileged members of the Russian nobility and contemporaries of grandfather. I don't recall that any of them knew or did not my father's original family.  But given who these people were if he had been a fraud they surely would have known.

4/ I agree its strange that neither my father nor grandfather appear in any of the military records under the names I gave you.  But again, if he'd been a fraud, claiming this General to be his father, and giving  him a false name - surely the risk of exposure in Russian society would have been high by claiming to be the son of such a distinguished general who might easily have been identified by any of the emigrees.

But I must say, all this is is giving me pause for thought.

I'm having a lunch meeting this week with  Sonya Klieinmichel, the daughter of one of my fathers great friends Count Vladimir Petrovich Kleinmichel (who was also my godfather)  Maybe she can shed some light on my his background.

I cant let this go now until I find out one way or the other the truth about my father.  But whatever, he was an extraordinary man,  a wonderful  father and a wonderful human being and much loved by all who came across. 

Arkadi

PS
Rob, excuse my reaction. I guess no one likes being told someone they love might be a fraud. But now the can of worms is open and there's no stuffing them back.


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ow why your persisiting with this - butt out.

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Do I assume that taking a more realistic approach in your terms  means I should accept the possibility my father was a fake, like your grandfather.
From what I have already found out, what little I know about him has proven to be correct.  See private email below sent in response to the publication of my photos.

When I say the more I find out, the less I know, it is because I'm getting a lot of feedback on the uniform and medals, which obviously differs slightly between the respondents as part of the answers are guesswork anyway, as they would have to be.

I think this should now be an end to the exchange between us.  You've made your unsolicited point, I've made mine.
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Dear Arkadi,

Thanks for the message. you are welcome and I'm glad I can help you;).

Well, reflecting on your letter I can say the following. Firstly, your grandfather is not a "commoner" as you said. I can hardly imagine a commoner with the Lieutenant General rank (was strictly given by Emperor) and Order of St. Vladimir (3rd degree which was given also by N-II). Imperial Russia as an any authoritarian society was a strongly built bureaucratic state. To reach 3rd rank in the Table of Ranks (Lt. General) you should have been at least from middle-class nobility, more likely from high class (houses, servants, mentions, etc.). Of course there were exceptions, like Denikin, but this is only a few examples. So, your grandfather is more likely from the middle/high class hereditary nobility. Anyway, on the picture of your grandfather I can see a decorated Lt. General. Somewhere around WWI (General's battledress with St. Vladimir Order). 

About the second photo and your father. Well, I can see a Sotnik (= Lieutenant US,UK) of one of the Don region Cossack Regiments. He is in the special white "Gymnasterka" (military blouse uniform) and in special Cossack's hat ("Papaha"). And of course he wears two St. George crosses (do not confuse with Orders of St. George).
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Thanks
Do you post this kind of encouragement to everybody? :-((

Arkadi

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Russian Noble Families / DOES ANYONE KNOW THE NAME DE RAKOFF (Rakov)
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:20:39 AM »
My father's name was Arkadi Georgevitch de Rakoff (Rakov)  He was born St Petersburg 1895. His father was a Lieutenant General with order of St Vladimir (3rd class) 
My father had four brothers and sisters who were killed in the revolution along with his parents.  But I can't believe the there are no surviving descendants of the original extended family. Unfortunately, I do not know my grandmothers original family name.

My father escaped Russian circa 1917/18 to Constantinople, and there joined the newly formed Don Cossack riding troupe - they  subsequently traveled the world as circus trick-riders.

Does anyone have any knowledge or contact with anyone who was in the Don Cossack troupe from those days.


Arkadi de Rakoff

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Thanks, Mike
It seem the more I find out, the less I know :-))

Arkadi

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Mike
A far as I know my father graduated from military academy, I would as an officer.  Can you tell me what uniform details suggest the photo was taken after 1918.  His family was from Crimea, and the Leiutenant General was his father.

Best
Akadi

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Mike
Thank you for your comments. I can see the re-touching around the eyebrows and mouth and judging from the soft quality of  the rest of the face, the retouching was undertaken to give some definition to the original but it certainly did not misrepresent the way my father looked in real life. 

The original framed photo was torn quite and damaged. In the sixties I had it repaired and  re-photographed to get a better print. The crosses and shoulder boards were not added at that time - and I'm certain never were.  It would take a lot of sophisticated modern day digital manipulation techniques to add the boards and crosses as they appear and that photo. It would have to been a minimum of 75 years ago that any manipulation could have taken place.
 
Best
Arkadi

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Anne
Many thanks for that information.

Best
Arkadi

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Thanks for photobucket tip.

Maybe this will work. There should be 2 photos on this link

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Nicola
What an amazing coincidence. I was in the process of composing an email to you through the forum when your email arrived on my desk. Thank you for contacting me. Your profile page doesn't show your email address so I have to reply through the 'send a personal message' tab which I still cant cant send the photos.  I don't know why its a problem - I click the 'insert image' tag, drag the pictures from my desktop and insert them between the codes but the images don't upload properly as you can see. 

I understand if you don't want send out your personal email address but I think that is only way I can send you the pictures.  I'm on the MAC system so maybe my computer is not totally compatible with the forum site, although I doubt it. Or maybe I'm just plain stupid, but I cant make it work. My email address is kadi.tarafilm@talktalk.net

Best
Arkadi

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I'm trying to trace my Russian heritage and have little to start with other than 2 attached  photos of my father and grandfather in military uniform. As I understand it the family was from Crimea and my father attended military academy in St Petersburg.  I think both my father and grandfather were in the Imperial Guards. I also know my father was awarded the George Cross but I'm not sure if it one of the medals in the attached photo of him. Can anyone identify the regiments they belonged to. And if so would it possible to identify the St Petersburg military academy my father attended.          I would be so grateful if anyone is able to start me off on this voyage of discovery.

HAVING CREATED THIS MESSAGE FOR SOME REASON I CANT UPLOAD THE PHOTOS. IF ANYONE FEELS THEY CAN HELP ME, COULD YOU PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AND I COULD SEND YOU THE PICTURES BY EMAIL.

Arkadi de Rakoff

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