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Forum Announcements / Re: Forum Members Not Heard From in a Long While
« on: November 27, 2024, 09:22:58 AM »
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Having Fun! / Re: Rare Pictures XIV
« on: November 27, 2024, 09:21:02 AM »
Hi, KarlandZita, many thanks for sharing the links!
(This is my first post here after the years!)
(This is my first post here after the years!)
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Films and TV shows about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: YouTube - Romanovs and Other Royalty
« on: January 30, 2019, 01:06:45 AM »
Today narks 130th anniversary of Mayerling tragedy so here is a small dedication to it.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:02:40 AM »
Another thing has came upon my mind - did Mary really bring a poison, drank it and Prince shot her afterwards?
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Maria Nicholaievna / Re: Maria photos III
« on: August 10, 2018, 12:07:34 AM »
It is great one indeed!
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Films and TV shows about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: YouTube - Romanovs and Other Royalty
« on: July 17, 2018, 12:52:29 AM »
I know editing was a bit shabby but I did it quickly and wanted it to be uploaded asap. ;=) And thank you for your review, Edbus31!
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Films and TV shows about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: YouTube - Romanovs and Other Royalty
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: March 09, 2018, 05:33:57 AM »
Yes, I see. Thank you so much. How about Julius Schuldes, the Mayerling's telegraphist, he also left the account.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:44:03 AM »
I see, thanks. How about Friedrich Wolf's account -- it is brief but it depicts that Rudolf's room was all in chaos, saying how Rudolf and Mary died while fighting/and someone third killed her. I know that's untrue but I am asking about his account on the tragedy.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:17:06 AM »
From what I have understood, he indeed heard it - the first shot killing Mary! But Rudolf might have persuaded him that he accidentally fired the revolver, calming Loscheck that everything is fine.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: February 19, 2018, 01:36:23 AM »
I see. Thanks.
But one thing is pretty weird - given the fact Rudolf killed Mary and got up something after six to order a breakfast, how come that Losheck didn't see him (Prince) being blood-shattered? I mean, them two talked. Maybe he washed himself in toilet? Or simply Loscheck didn't tell the whole story, that's.
But one thing is pretty weird - given the fact Rudolf killed Mary and got up something after six to order a breakfast, how come that Losheck didn't see him (Prince) being blood-shattered? I mean, them two talked. Maybe he washed himself in toilet? Or simply Loscheck didn't tell the whole story, that's.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: February 09, 2018, 01:05:19 AM »
I have a question in fact -- from what we read in Mary Vetsera's farewell letters, we many conclude that she was completely aware of what is going of happen, that she willingly goes to death? Is that correct?
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For those who want to know more :
Hunting lodge at Mayerling was officially opened on October 19th ad 20th 1887 (had been previously bought in 1886 by Crown Prince), and since November 1887 up to January 1889 only ten hunting's were performed. Rudolf's wife and daughter also visited lodge in June in 1888. Crown Princess Stephanie described the interior of the lodge. I wish we knew more on lodge's 1st floor, there were Stephanie's rooms?
After his son's death, Emperor Franz Joseph visited the Carmelitian monastery only 8 times while the Empress did it 4 times. Emperor outlived his son for 27 years but visited the place only 8 times, as if he wanted to forget everything.
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For those who want to know more :
Hunting lodge at Mayerling was officially opened on October 19th ad 20th 1887 (had been previously bought in 1886 by Crown Prince), and since November 1887 up to January 1889 only ten hunting's were performed. Rudolf's wife and daughter also visited lodge in June in 1888. Crown Princess Stephanie described the interior of the lodge. I wish we knew more on lodge's 1st floor, there were Stephanie's rooms?
After his son's death, Emperor Franz Joseph visited the Carmelitian monastery only 8 times while the Empress did it 4 times. Emperor outlived his son for 27 years but visited the place only 8 times, as if he wanted to forget everything.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: February 04, 2018, 05:57:06 AM »
I bought the book and read it within a week or less, today I finished it. Accidentally or not, I started reading it on January 29th 2018.
It left me stunned -- it has widened my knowledge and I have learned a lot about the Crown Prince and the whole Mayerling affair. Especially all those details!
Having looked at Vetsera sisters' photo, I noticed that the two sisters had completely different facial features, for almost sure I could recognize Albin Vetsera's feautures at Hanna and Helene Vetsera's features in Mary. That's has always been my notice. Like if Mary wasn't Albin's daughter. And I have always found Loscheck's story on hearing two shots one after another very suspicious/unlikely. Now I am almost sure of my previous thesis that no third persona was present on the fateful night January 29/30th.
I must admit that, after reading book, I felt sorry for both of Rudolf and Mary - at the end, they were only human beings. Yet psychologically damaged and under influence of all the people surrounding them. Rudolf certainly had had loveless childhood and had been misunderstood throughout his youth and early adulthood, his ideas and visions had not been taken seriously.
Well done, I completely love the new view/conclusion (based on psychological analysis and very scarce evidence/testimonies) of what happened between them two in that locked Rudolf's room within snow-bounded lodge. I love how the lodge is depicted, I wish it still existed. You can find the lodge's plans and its reconstructions on the Internet.
Well done Mr King, Penny Wilson and the others, the book is highly recommended, for putting your time and effort in chronologically re-collecting the events.
I found that Rudolf visited my homeland, Serbia, along with Crown Princess Stephanie - in 1884.
It left me stunned -- it has widened my knowledge and I have learned a lot about the Crown Prince and the whole Mayerling affair. Especially all those details!
Having looked at Vetsera sisters' photo, I noticed that the two sisters had completely different facial features, for almost sure I could recognize Albin Vetsera's feautures at Hanna and Helene Vetsera's features in Mary. That's has always been my notice. Like if Mary wasn't Albin's daughter. And I have always found Loscheck's story on hearing two shots one after another very suspicious/unlikely. Now I am almost sure of my previous thesis that no third persona was present on the fateful night January 29/30th.
I must admit that, after reading book, I felt sorry for both of Rudolf and Mary - at the end, they were only human beings. Yet psychologically damaged and under influence of all the people surrounding them. Rudolf certainly had had loveless childhood and had been misunderstood throughout his youth and early adulthood, his ideas and visions had not been taken seriously.
Well done, I completely love the new view/conclusion (based on psychological analysis and very scarce evidence/testimonies) of what happened between them two in that locked Rudolf's room within snow-bounded lodge. I love how the lodge is depicted, I wish it still existed. You can find the lodge's plans and its reconstructions on the Internet.
Well done Mr King, Penny Wilson and the others, the book is highly recommended, for putting your time and effort in chronologically re-collecting the events.
I found that Rudolf visited my homeland, Serbia, along with Crown Princess Stephanie - in 1884.
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: November 04, 2017, 08:42:29 AM »
I've read on somewhere that Rudolf's dog was also found dead at Mayerling's hunting lodge - is that again just a conspiracy or ?
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The Habsburgs / Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death, Part II
« on: November 03, 2017, 07:14:02 AM »I'm beyond excited. The libraries in my neck of the woods have nothing on Rudolf or Mayerling. So all information I get on the subject is due to online research or the brief chapters/mentions in books about the last century of the empire. The most information I got from a library book was from Brigette Hamann's bio. on his mother.I agree, I agree. I hope that we can expect many unknown details.
It will be wonderful to read on the subject on sources up to date!