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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Bagrations
« on: March 26, 2008, 04:53:10 AM »

Russian Noble Families / Re: The Bagrations
« on: March 26, 2008, 04:51:14 AM »
HRH Prince Nugzar of Georgia or Nugzar Bagration-Gruzinsky or Nugzar Bagrationi
Born August 25, 1950 (1950-08-25)
Tbilisi, Georgia

Pretend from 1984
Monarchy abolished 1800
Last monarch George XII of Georgia
Connection with great-great-great grandson
Royal House Bagrationi
Father Prince Petre Bagration-Gruzinski
Mother Liya Mgeladze
Spouse Leila Kipiani
Children Princess Anna, Princess Maya
Predecessor Petre Bagration-Gruzinski
HRH Prince Nugzar of Georgia  (born August 25, 1950, in Tbilisi, Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic) is the head of the Royal House of Georgia and a  Head of the Royal House of Georgia.

Prince Nugzar is the son of Prince Petre Bagration-Gruzinski of Georgia (1920-1984), a prominent poet and claimant to the Headship of the Royal House of Georgia from 1939 to 1984 and his second wife Liya Mgeladze (b. August 8, 1926). Prince Nugzar is the director of the Tbilisi theatre of cinema artists.

On 18 December 2007 Nugzar met with Kristiina Ojuland, the Vice-President of the Riigikogu (the parliament of Estonia) at the Mariott-Tbilisi hotel in which Ojuland "paid homage to the Bagrationi dynasty who has made an extraordinary contribution to the upholding of Georgia".

Currently, Prince Nugzar is the senior descendent in the male line of George XII, the last King of Georgia. Historian Raul Chagunava who has researched the Bagrationi family believes Bagration-Gruzinsky is the rightful heir to the throne. Nino Bagrationi a 90-year-old direct descendant of king Solomon II of Imeretia also recognizes the claim of Bagration-Gruzinsky.[4] After Nugzar the next senior descendant in the male line is Prince Peter Bagration-Gruzinsky (b. 1916) followed by his son Prince Eugene (b. 1947).

Nugzar was married to Leila Kipiani (b. Tbilisi July 16, 1947) on February 10, 1971 and they have two daughters:

Princess Anna of Georgia b. Tbilisi November 1, 1976
Princess Maya of Georgia b. Tbilisi January 2, 1978

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Head of House of Holstein-Gottorp
« on: March 16, 2008, 07:50:26 AM »
Of course Dmitri Pavlovich ( born 1954) is a Head of House of Holstein-Gottorp.


Sovereign families
What follows is a summary of the provisions regarding equal marriages among the 35 dynasties of the German Confederation.  Note that the phrase "equality required" means that legitimate birth from an equal marriage was a necessary condition to be able to succeed to the throne (Successionsfähigkeit).  For the complete texts, see my page on German succession laws...
 Holstein  :
State Constitution -  No
House law  - No

Christian Adolf von Holstein-Sonderburg was obliged to cede his territory of Sonderburg to the king of Denmark to pay off his debts and settled in Franzhagen, in Lauenburg.  His son Ludwig Carl zu Holstein-Franzhagen (1684-1708) married on 20 Dec 1705 Anna [alias Barbara] Dorothea von Winterfeld (1670-1739); they had two children who died both in infancy. [Pütter 229]

Friderich zu Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg (1652-92) married in 1692 Anna Christina Bereuter, daughter of a barber of Kiel; he died the same year at the battle of Enghien (3 Aug 1692) without issue. [Pütter 159-60.]

Ernst August zu Augustenburg (1660-1731) married in 1695 Marie Therese (Freyin according to some) von Velbrück, daughter of the Master of the Horse of the Elector Palatine; they had no issue.  He converted to Catholicism and obtained a position as canon in Cologne, but later returned to Protestantism. {Pütter 170]

Ernst Casimir zu Beck (1668-95) married in 1693 Maria Christina, daughter of Wolfgang Ehrenreich Graf von Prösing; she died in March 1696 without issue. [Pütter 177]

Case Holstein-Plön/Eichelberg (1702).

This case arose in a branch of the Oldenburg family, more precisely among the descendants of Johann (d. 1622), 4th son of king Christian III of Denmark (d. 1559). This line of Holstein-Sonderburg-Plön (see a genealogical table here) split at the next generation into the lines of Sonderburg (itself further splitting into many lines of Franzhagen, Beck, Augustenburg, Wiesenburg), Norburg, Glücksburg, and Plön. The line of Plön itself split at the next generation between Johann-Adolf of Holstein-Plön, August of Holstein-Norburg (or Nordborg), and Joachim Ernst of Holstein-Rethwisch.
August of Holstein-Norburg died in 1699 leaving two sons, Joachim Friedrich (1668-1722) and Christian Carl (1674-1706).  On Feb. 20, 1702 the younger brother Christian Carl married Dorothea Christine von Eichelberg(alias Aichelburg).  Her father Johann Franz had served as captain in an Austrian cavalry regiment, and later as Hofmeister at the court fof Plön.  Later that year, a contract (24 Nov 1702) was concluded between Christian Carl and his elder brother Joachim Friedrich.  The text explained Christian Carl's intention to conserve the house of Norburg and avoid the division of its estates among many children.  It stipulated a 40,000 Thaler lump-sum payment to Christian Carl's widow and suspension of the rights of the issue of that marriage to any of the family fiefs until extinction of the (male) line of Joachim Friedrich.  The king of Denmark approved the contract on 5 Dec 1702 and granted to the issue of that marriage the name of von Carlstein and a specific coat of arms.

Christian Carl died on 23 May 1706 leaving a son (Friedrich Carl von Carlstein, b. posthumously on 4 Aug 1706) and a daughter.  Later the same year, on 4 Nov, the Holstein-Plön line died out and Joachim Friedrich inherited the imperial fief of Plön.  The tutors of young Carlstein, appointed by the king of Denmark, made claims but were rebuffed in 1710 and 1714 in imperial courts.

On 25 Jan 1722 Friedrich Joachim died, leaving only daughters and a pregnant wife who gave birth to a daughter.  The next male-line heir, after Carlstein, was Johann Ernst Ferdinand duke of Holstein-Rethwisch, whose father had entered Spanish service and converted to Catholicism; he immediately claimed the Norburg-Plön succession in Imperial and Danish courts.  But, on Dec. 12, 1722, in exchange for a significant share of the disputed estates, the king of Denmark, Frederik IV (4th cousin of the brothers) declared Carlstein his kinsman and a duke of Holstein, and militarily took possession of Plön on his behalf.  The duke of Holstein-Rethwisch sued, Carlstein counter-sued, and the matter dragged on for years (in part because imperial courts refused to countenance young Carlstein's self-style as "duke of Holstein") until past the death without male heirs of the duke of Holstein-Rethwisch in 1729, whereupon Carlstein inherited Rethwisch as well.  In July 1730, he married Christine Ermegaard Reventlow, niece of Frederik IV's 3d and morganatic wife Anna Sophie Reventlow (they left no male issue).

Finally, On Sep. 11, 1731 the German emperor decided that the marriage should be considered as "ein ordentliches und Fürstliches rechtmäßges Matrimonium," that the son born of that marriage was entitled to the name, rank, and dignity of a duke of Holstein, and to inherit all rights and prerogatives of the Holsteins as princes of the Empire, and in particular in the imperial lands of the Holstein-Plön succession, and to be considered a full agnate of the house of Holstein.

to miller99

please kindly explain why u insist on writing her name ''YRINY''?

I find it totally wrong in every language I know.

thnx in advance.


I do not understand why she is called Princess of Denmark. What is the connection?


1. HRH Princess Irene of Greece, Princess of Denmark


2. King Paul I of Greece (1901-1964),Prince of Denmark


4. King Constantine I of Greece (1868-1923),Prince of Denmark


8. King George I of Greece (1845-1913), Prince of Denmark


16. King Christian IX of Denmark (1818-1906)

Press release issued by the Registrar



The European Court of Human Rights has today delivered judgment at a public hearing in the case of the Former King of Greece & Others v. Greece (application no. 25701/94) concerning just satisfaction under Article 41 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Born May 11, 1942 (1942-05-11) (age 65)
Cape Town, South Africa
Title Princess of Greece, Princess of Denmark.

Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark (born May 11, 1942) is the youngest child of King Paul of Greece and his wife Frederika of Hanover. She is the younger sister of Queen Sofía of Spain and of deposed King Constantine II of Greece. She is officially styled in Spain and Denmark as Her Royal Highness Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark.

She was born in Cape Town, South Africa, on May 11, 1942. She was a pupil of concert pianist Gina Bachauer and, for a while, she was a professional concert pianist herself. After her brother was dethroned, she moved to India with her mother. Since her mother's death, Princess Irene has lived in Spain in an apartment at the La Zarzuela Palace in Madrid, the royal residence of the King and Queen of Spain. Her niece, Infanta Cristina of Spain named her daughter Irene (born in 2005) after her. Princess Irene has never married and is close to her brother, Constantine.

She is the founder and president of the World in Harmony Organization(Mundo en Armonía []) and also collaborates with other benefic foundations and cultural activities.

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« on: August 08, 2007, 03:58:59 AM »

Of course not:

House Oldenburg, Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksberg is a line from House Oldenburg.

The Imperial Family / Re: The Non-Hetero Royals
« on: April 23, 2007, 01:10:55 PM »
GD Konstantin Konstantinovich:
December 22, 1905.
 I am very confused by a letter from the Captain Sosnitski.. he mention that one day in the summer of 1903 under the evening, I went to his duties in the camp DePaul School and from there went to Krasnoselskie baths. "What happened, you surely remember," says Sosnitsky. On another day, with the saturation of duty, he went to the baths, and heard from banschik that I was with him and that I had for it gave him 20 rubles. Sosnitsky continues that he keeps this fact secret, but if it had been published in the press, it is unlikely that it would be convenient to me to remain in my post occupied.  Sosnitski was in this case wrong : I remember well that evening - it was really a nice meal, but I not given 20 rubles to banschik and not for what it was. But the reference is wrong only on the above case.

The Imperial Family / Re: The Non-Hetero Royals
« on: April 23, 2007, 01:00:58 PM »
I guess, that he did not want a scandal.
and such liaisons were very simple. :)

yee! that`s true

and his very long homosexual life only one time one officer blackmailing him.   

The Imperial Family / Re: The Non-Hetero Royals
« on: April 21, 2007, 05:09:00 PM »
GD Konstantin Konstaninovich wrote that his lovers were common russian men (bath-house attendant, bath-house man, cottager, cottar, cotter).

The Imperial Family / Re: The Non-Hetero Royals
« on: April 21, 2007, 05:03:37 PM »
Is not true say that GD K.K was a gay. He was a bisexual man.

GD Nikolai Mihhailovich  was a bisexual too. Queen Victoria of Sweden was a lover of GD Nikolai Mihhailovich.

GD Dmitri Pavlovich was a bisexual. Berbatova told about GD Dmitri Pavlovich that his lover was not only Prince Felix Jussupov, but  GD Nikolai Mihhailovich too.

GD Sergei Aleksandovich was maybe a bisexual, his homosexual affairs was uncertain.

GD Nikolai Mihhailovich was a bisexual because his ancestor King of Sweden Gustav III was a bisexual.

GD Sergei Aleksandovich was a bisexual because of his Hessen relativs. Ernst of Hessen was a bisexual.

And very interesting:

GD Konstantin Konstantinovich was a granduncle of GD Dmitri Pavlovich. Maybe reason of homosexuality of GD Konstantin Konstantinovich and GD Dmitri Pavlovich was Sax-Altenburg ancestor.

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