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Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: Ella and Sergei 2
« on: September 06, 2015, 02:54:01 PM »
Why did Ella and Sergei not have children?

I'm sure you can find many educated guesses in this 34-page thread devoted to the subject!

Thank you! I tried to use the search engine since I figured it would have been covered but nothing came up. Bless you for providing me with this link :D

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« on: September 06, 2015, 12:22:07 PM »
I think people can be a bit harsh when assessing Alexandra, particularly when it comes to the issue of her health. Branding her as "insane" is rather cold and doesn't seem to take into account the fact this woman had an extremely tragic life.

Firstly, she loses both of her parents before she is 20. Secondly, she marries into a foreign court with and has to come to terms with a new religion, language, culture and court in a very short space of time. Thirdly, her physical health is generally poor. The speed at which she produced children would wear out most women since pregnancy, as any woman who has had children will tell you, can/is very taxing on the body. Then to put the cherry on the ill-tasting cake, her only son, the one who is supposed to one day rule an empire, has a debilitating illness that could kill him at any moment. The fact she passed it onto him probably made her feel even worse. I'm not surprised at all that Alix had a number of health issues both physically and mentally. I think people can be quite insensitive to her plight at times. I'm not saying Alix was a saint but recently I've come to believe that she was a sick woman who has been unfairly demonised both when she was alive and after her death. 

I don't think Nicholas would have wanted to rule again, even if it had been offered.  His writings give no indication of this.  He might have been more than happy to spend the rest of his life in exile on a farm somewhere sawing wood.

However bad a leader he may have been, it did NOT justify the brutal murder of himself and his family.  If a man is guilty of a crime, you put him on trial for said crime.  Of course, thugs and murderers like the Bolsheviks were didn't believe in due process.

Anyway, we're off topic again.  Sorry folks.

Tim, I must respectfully disagree here. Nicholas believed, right up until the end, that he was God's appointed ruler of Russia. Whilst Nicholas adjusted well to his exile, that could be down to his unwavering belief in "God's will" as opposed to coming to terms with the fact he just wasn't cut out for ruling. Had he been offered throne, he would have also seen this as "God's Will" and accepted.

The Final Chapter / Re: how close was Yurovsky to the Tsar
« on: September 06, 2015, 11:46:54 AM »
Pretty much point blank range, I imagine. The room, whilst not as small as some people may think, would have been rather crowded considering the number of people in it.

Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: Ella and Sergei 2
« on: September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM »
Why did Ella and Sergei not have children?

Having Fun! / Things that annoy you because you're a Romanov fan
« on: September 06, 2015, 11:34:04 AM »
I thought this question might get a few funny answers because there are some things that annoy us BECAUSE we are fans of the Imperial Family. They wouldn't annoy us if we weren't. I thought it would be cool/fun to see what everyone else thought :D

A couple of my "Romanov annoyances" are:

1. When the Grand Duchesses get referred to as "Princesses" (i.e Princess Anastasia). This happens a lot when they get reported in the British press and I'm just like "THAT'S NOT THEIR TITLE." Like calling someone Miss instead of Mrs.

2. When people watch the Anastasia cartoon and instantly think Anastasia survived. This doesn't really invoke a feeling of annoyance for me, actually. More feelings of "if only you knew...." and "don't get me started on why she didn't"

3. People mispronouncing the name Romanov. Names being mispronounced gets on my nerves  in general. Growing up with an uncommon name, it happened to me a lot in school and other places. Ro-MAN-ov. Not RO-man-ov as its often pronounced here.

4. When people make claims about the Imperial Family that you just know are not true. I can remember when I studied Imperial Russia as part of my A Levels a year ago, my class all seemed convinced that Alexandra had an affair with Rasputin. I can see why they would think that but Romanov fans know it's just not true. And it's really hard to argue your case when everyone else takes stuff at face value. ;)

5. When people question my interest in the Imperial Family. I just find them a lot more interesting than Justin Bieber and One Direction.

Does anyone else have any more amusing annoyances? :D

Nicholas II / Re: dental work
« on: September 06, 2015, 10:51:07 AM »
Edubs, I think Alexandra would have "ruled" in that instance as was the case when Nicholas went to the front in 1915. Alexei was far too ill and young to rule an empire of that size and Michael, even though it was still highly possible he may have one day become Tsar since Alexei had such fragile health, was in  disgrace for many years.

So many books are actually using a photo of Maria Nikolaevna, not Anastasia, for the "ear comparism". How can you take them seriously then?

I noticed that too!

Nicholas II / Re: dental work
« on: September 06, 2015, 10:33:48 AM »
Hi Ann,

The girls had a number of fillings which suggests that their dental health wasn't the greatest. King and Wilson attribute this to their fondest of sweets. All of them (not sure about Tatiana) had a gap in the front of their teeth. Olga apparently had straight, white teeth as well.

Nicholas II / Re: dental work
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:16:08 AM »
According to his remains, Nicholas' dental health was extremely poor. Alexandra's skull showed signs of elaborate dental work but Nicholas had nothing to suggest he recieved adequate dental treatment. He also suffered from pretty bad halitosis (bad breath) and had gum disease. So one can assume his teeth in life were in pretty bad condition.

Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas' fitness regime
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:09:25 AM »
His walks would last for hours and he didn't slow down or stop, chain smoking the whole way.  Spiridovich recalls how some of his officers rather dreaded being asked to join him on his walking trips.

I take it they weren't allowed to refuse....

Judging from the photos of Anastasia and FS that I've seen, they looked nothing alike.   I would never have mistaken one for the other. 

I agree, Tim. I've tried to look at pictures of Franziska (sp?) objectively and I just CANNOT see ANY resemblance to Anastasia or any Romanov. Anastasia looked like the Tsarina and Anna Anderson looked nothing like Alix. Yes, people grow up but people's lips don't get noticeably larger as part of the ageing process. Remember, Anastasia was 17 when she died. Whilst she probably hadn't finished her growth cycle her features, at this point, were probably "set" and wouldn't have changed that much by the time she was in her twenties - the age should would have been when this whole survivor story kicked off. The ear test that supposedly confirms Anna as being Anastasia overlooks the fact they shared no other features, either.

The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« on: September 05, 2015, 07:31:32 AM »
I don't really concern myself with the issue of pretenders and who is rightfully head of the house of Romanov. It's very unlikely a monarchy will ever return to Russia anyway. And even if it did, who's to say that a Romanov will rule? Maybe a new dynasty (like House of Putin!) will rise up and take over just like the Romanovs took over from the Ruriks after the Time of Troubles. Maria is pursuing a throne that will never be hers.

The Final Chapter / Re: anastasia or maria?
« on: July 21, 2015, 11:27:20 AM »
At least we all know they all died. However, it does big me slightly that at least two of the girls  have most likely been buried under the wrong name. This may not sound like a big deal but I have two sisters who are close in age to me and I would be mortified if our identities were mistaken upon burial. 

Having Fun! / Re: Anyone adopted any "Romanov" habits/sayings?
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:59:34 PM »
Not being particularly religious I don't cross myself often, but I think my Romanov and broader Russian history fascination has influenced me enough to where I make the sign from right to left now rather than left to right....does that count?

Yep. It does :)

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