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The Windsors / Re: Queen Victoria, Prince Albert & their Coburg relations
« on: January 04, 2013, 08:23:09 AM »
Just me or anyone else thinks deathbed photos disturbing? That one of Victoria Nemours was quite disturbing to me. Such a morbid habit, take deathbed photos.

Poor Victoria. Dying in childbirth, impoverished and exiled. "Coburg Curse" again!

The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: Stuart 'Might-Have-Been' thread
« on: December 30, 2012, 07:56:25 PM »
Maybe a Little off-topic right now, but what about a marriage between Sophia of Hanover and Charles II? My opinion:

Charles II married Princess Sophia of The Palatinate in 1658, and both were 28 at The time. It was largely a mariage de convenance but Charles admired Sophia's witty personality. Though Sophia was certainly not in Love with him at The time, we can't consider it an unhappy union. It produced several children, among them Charles George, later king George I. Sophia jokingly called him "depraved" and usually had fun making his mistresses lives a hell. She had a very bad relantionship with The Duke of York and his Daughters, and disapproved of his daughter Anne's marriage to Charles George.

If anyone is interested, could develop The idea further (it's 11 P.M and I'm on IPad so...).

Was Fritz of Baden the other suitor for Alicky as well ?

Probably no. Kind of, he married when Alicky was... 13. But I heard of Max of Baden as a suitor for her. He was born in 1867 and was heir to the Grand Duchy as Fritz of Baden was childless. But there's another tread on him and on Alix's suitors. Back to topic.

God, she died young! Only 44! Such an exceptional woman... Which illness was? There are any reports of her husband and children reaction at this? Poor Margarethe, without mother at the age of 14...

Are there more photos of Catherine Petrovna Oldenburg (1846-1866), Nixa's 1st love? I am curious on her, she supposedly died of tuberculosis (and depression) after Nixa's death in 1865.

The only photos of her are in this topic. She was not Nixa's love, only a flirt. And she did die of tuberculosis, why supposedly?

Only a flirt? Hum. I wasn't sure she died of tuberculosis, actually I never heard much of her. I read a blog (someone quoted above I guess) who had some information on her but only this.

She was about 7. Very beautiful little girl, with dark hair- and such violet eyes!

Mediatized Noble Families / Re: Teck
« on: October 04, 2012, 06:19:16 PM »

The Windsors / Re: Possible brides for QV's sons
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:39:26 PM »
I have always found it strange that Princess Helena was so much against Leopold marrying Caroline Mathilde "Calma" of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg. I don't understand why.

Why was she against? Calma seems to be a very sweet lady and more lively than her plain sister Dona.

Are there more photos of Catherine Petrovna Oldenburg (1846-1866), Nixa's 1st love? I am curious on her, she supposedly died of tuberculosis (and depression) after Nixa's death in 1865.

Mediatized Noble Families / Re: Teck
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:43:05 PM »
Someone here have more photos or information about Francis, Duke of Teck (1837-1900), Queen Mary's father? Or there's another topic on the forum on he? Any info would be nice.

I don't know much about Fritz of Baden's personality though, another of possible choices to Ella.

I read (in Wikipedia, so I can't have sure about the information, they appoint in the end of the article a book named The Grand Dukes of Baden) that he was shy and not scholarly but a good military (but liberal in his reign- Vicky would be happy!). They were friends but I think that the marriage would turn to be unhappy.

The Windsors / Re: Possible brides for QV's sons
« on: September 30, 2012, 01:34:24 PM »
Thank you all for the photos! Thyra is very pretty, Olga & Lily have beautiful eyes. Surely it was hard for their suitors to choose!

The Hesse-Darmstadts (Hesse and by Rhine) / Re: Grand Duke Ludwig IV
« on: September 29, 2012, 02:57:36 PM »
Maybe the Prince of Orange wasn't the best of men, but if he had married Alice and fell in love with her, he would probably change, drink less and enjoy a family life with her. And I think that she would be more allowed to freethinking in Hague than in Darmstadt. And there would be no War stress or Diphtheria epidemic so she would live more.  Louis was a good man but not as intellectual as Alice was, and I read that Willem (the Prince of Orange) was intelligent but barely tapped (I don't have how to confirm this as I read in Wikipedia). He seems to be a needy (on this I am almost sure) person, the kind of people (like the intellectuals) Alice liked. And she would develop a good relationship with her mother-in-law Queen Sophie that always an intellectual person too. It's just my opinion but I think that, at the end, she would have been happier in Netherlands than in Hesse and by Rhine.

The Windsors / Re: Possible brides for QV's sons
« on: September 29, 2012, 02:40:22 PM »
Alfred--GDss Olga of Russia (later Queen Olga), GDss Marie's daughter Eugenie, Elizabeth Wied, Tina Oldenburg (until her untimely death)
Arthur--Thyra of Denmark, Frederica (Lily) of Hannover, Marie (Mary) of Hannover
Leopold--Lily of Hannover

Can someone post photos of them? I did not saw a lot of photos of Gdss Olga when young (I mean shortly before she married George I of Greece), and of Elisabeth of Wied & Catherine Petrovna of Oldenburg (and some photos of Thyra of Denmark, Lily & Marie of Hannover would work too!).

Thanks for any help.

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