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The Danish Royal Family / Blixen-Finecke, Danneskjold & Royalty

« on: December 31, 2005, 11:56:18 AM »

Hi! I wonder if you could help me. I would like to know what the connection is between the following:

Karen Christience Dinesen, Baroness Blixen-Finecke after her marriage to her second daughter. From what I can gather, her father's aunt, Thyra Haffner, married Christian Krag-Juel-Vind-Frijs; their son Mogens married a Friedricke of Danneksjold-Samsoe; she was, I suppose, yet I don't know how, linked with the family that descends from Christian V of Denmark. I believe some of Christian V's Danneksjold's descendants also married members of the House of Schleswig-Holstein. Can anyone give me a helpful piece of info to see how Karen Blixen is connected with royalty (to the Danish royals, to the Blixens and to the Danneskjolds) please? Thanks, and this being my last post of the year:

Happy New Year to all!!!

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Iberian Royal Families / The descendants of Infante Francisco de Paula of Spain

« on: November 05, 2005, 08:05:49 AM »

Queen Isabel II's sister-in-law and namesake, Isabel (1821-1897), who became Countess Gurovsky upon marriage.

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BeNeLux Royalty / King Leopold I of the Belgians and his family

« on: September 15, 2005, 01:54:18 PM »

Hello all,
I should like to start a new thread on this interesting character, who started off as a papuper prince from an unimportant family and ended up reigning over a small but nevertheless important European country shortly after its creation following the Napoleonic wars.

Leopold of Saxe-Coburg was the younger brother of the Duke of Saxe-Coburg and the Duchess of Kent, who were the parents of the Prince Consort and Queen Victoria respectively. Less known is the connection with the Royal Houses of Portugal and Bulgaria, connected to him through his brother Ferdinand. Leopold was at one point offered the crown of Greece, but he declined such an offer because of the situation of his sister in England (if her brother-in-law William IV died, her daughter would become Queen under Victoire of Kent's regency, and he would indeed exert all his powers in the shadow of the throne, being an important member of the British court and his niece's favourite uncle). When the situation cooled down, he finally accepted the crown of a new country, Belgium.

His first marriage, and the most famous,w as to Charlotte of Wales, who first miscarried a baby and then delivered a stillborn child, herself dying in the process. He then married a French princess (undoubtedly because he needed the support of France, as well as the continuing of the dynasty in Belgium, and who better than a well-connected Catholic princess - we must remember that Belgium is and was at the time mainly Catholic), Louise-Marie of Orleans. The couple had four children: the first, a son nicknamed Babochon, died suddenly at a very short age; the second, a sickly, dry and unatractive boy who was distant towards both his parents and lacking in inspiring qualities, became Leopold II of the Belgians on his father's death. Then came Philip, ancestor of the present King of the Belgians, and Charlotte, a beautiful, cultivated and mentally-unstable woman who lost her husband to the Mexican revolutionaries.

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The Final Chapter / Location in Yekaterinburg

« on: August 19, 2005, 05:46:14 AM »

Hello all, I've downloaded a lovely map of Yekaterinburg but I don't know where Ipatiev House was located exactly. Can anyone post a plan of the city with the amrked location of where Ipatiev House use to be? And now I'm at it, why not also where they were buried please

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The Habsburgs / Archduke Albrecht (1817-95), and his family

« on: August 11, 2005, 11:24:54 AM »

Here's a new post on Archduchess Mathilde of Austria-Hungary. She was born in Vienna on the 25th of january 1849. Her parents were Archduke Albrecht of Austria-Hungary (1817-1895) and Princess Hildegarde of Wittelsbach, Princess of Bavaria and daughter of King Ludwig I (therefore a sister of Maximilian II Josef of Bavaria and Otto I of Greece. Archduke Albrecht was also Duke (Herzog) of Teschen, and was the uncle of Maria Cristina of Habsburg-Lorraine, who became Queen of Spain in 1879. Little has been written so far about Mathilde. She ahd an elder sister, Maria Theresia (1845-1927) and a deceased elder brother, Karl Albrecht Ludwig (1847-1848) who, had he lived, would have inherited the dukedom of Teschen.  Maria Theresia married  Duke Philipp of Württemberg in 1865 and had five children between 1865 and 1877. Of her three sons, two married Austrian archduchesses, while the other remained single. Of her two daughters, one never married and the other married Johann Georg of Saxony, but had no children.
Mathilde was unofficially betrothed when she was a teenager to her distant cousin Ludwig Salvator of Tuscanny, son of Leopold II of Tuscanny. Negotiations apparently came to nothing, and she was thus again betrothed to the Hereditary Prince of Italy, the future Umberto I, which would close the secret treaty negotiations performed between Rome and Vienna. On June 6th 1867 she attended a ball Hertzendorf, Austria, and she lit a cigarette. Not long after her father (according to Daniel de Rauglaudre, her governess) surprised her and she hid it between the foldings of her dress or sleeve. The fabric evidently caught fire, and she was unable to put it out. Tragically, she died before the guests, including her old adolescence sweetheart Ludwig Salvator, who from then on led a sad, emotionless life and retired discreetly to his Palace named "Miramar" (not to be confused with that one at Trieste) in Majorca (Spain). He was thought as a good candidate for his widowed niece, the dowager Countess of Girgenti and Princess of Asturias, María Isabel Francisca of Spain, but again, negotiations came to nothing. Archduke Albrecht survived his son, youngest daughter and wife, dying in 1895. He was a brave soldier and a quiet man. He became field marshal in 1888.

Here are a couple of pictures of the people I've just mentioned:

Mathilde before her terrible death at 18.




Her father, Archduke Albrecht:




His eldest daughter Maria Theresia, later Princess of Württemberg:






Prince Philipp of Württemberg, Mathilde's brother-in-law








Any more on her please?

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BeNeLux Royalty / The Three Kings Willem/William of the Netherlands

« on: August 11, 2005, 04:48:47 AM »

What did all the male children of Willem III of the Netherlands die of? His sons from his first marriage were:

-Willem Nicolaas Alexander (The Hague 1840-Paris 1879)
-Willem Fredrik Maurits Alexander (1843-1850)
-Willem Alexander Karel (1851-1884)

They were the sons of Princess Sophie Fredricke Mathilde of Württemberg (1818-1877). They all died unmarried and without issue.

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The Windsors / Funny pics!

« on: August 10, 2005, 05:48:12 PM »

Put funny pics you find online or have at home of royalty We'd love to see some, and no matter if they're not Windsors, any will do Hope it doens't bother anyone if we post this

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BeNeLux Royalty / Orange-Nassau connections with other Royal Houses

« on: August 10, 2005, 11:17:01 AM »

Hello everyone, I thought you'd be interested in seeing how the Luxemburg and Dutch Royal Families are linked via male line (obviously they're connected many in more ways):

Heinrich II "der reiche" of Nassau, Graf (Count) of Nassau (c. 1190-1251) is the common ancestor between the Dutch and the Luxemburg Royal Families via the male line. However, as we know, both present monarchs in both countries descend through the female line (remember in Holland there were Queens Wilhelmina, Juliana and the present Queen Beatrix, and Charlotte I in Luxemburg).

The line from Heinrich to Henry I of Luxemburg is:
-Heinrich II of Nassau
-Walram II of Nassau
-Adolf of Nassau, according to Daniel de Rauglaudre, Holy German Emperor in 1292.
-Gerlach I of Nassau-Weilburg
-Johann I of Nassau-Weilburg
-Philipp I of Nassau-Weilburg
-Philipp II of Nassau-Weilburg
-Johann III of Nassau-Weilburg
-Ludwig I of Nassau-Weilburg
-Albrecht of Nassau-Weilburg
-Ludwig II of Nassau-Weilburg
-Ernst Kasimir of Nassau-Weilburg
-Friedrich of Nassau-Weilburg
-Johann Ernst of Nassau-Weilburg, Fürst von Nassau
-Karl August of Nassau-Weilburg
-Karl Christian of Nassau-Weilburg
-Friedrich-Wilhelm of Nassau-Weilburg
-Wilhelm of Nassau-Weilburg, Duke of Nassau
-Adolf of Nassau-Weilburg, Grand Duke of Luxemburg
-Wilhelm IV of Luxemburg
-Charlotte I of Luxemburg
-John (Jean) I of Luxemburg
-Henry (Henri) I of Luxemburg

The link from Heinrich to Beatrix is:
-Heinrich of Nassau
-Otto I of Nassau-Dillenburg
-Heinrich I of Nassau-Siegen
-Otto II of Nassau-Dillenburg
-Johann I
-Engelbert I
-Johann IV of Nassau-Diez
-Johann V
-Wilhelm VIII
-Johann VI
-Ernst Kasimir
-Wilhelm Friedrich
-Heinrich-Kasimir
-Johann Wilhelm Friso, prince of Orange
-Willem IV of the United Provinces
-Willem VI
-Willem I of the Netherlands and Luxemburg
-Willem II
-Willem III
-Wilhelmina of the Netherlands
-Juliana
-Beatrix

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BeNeLux Royalty / Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxemburg

« on: August 09, 2005, 06:00:08 PM »

On Grand Duchess Charlotte Adelgonde of Luxemburg: (ta wiki and ta Prince!)

Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg, Charlotte Aldegonde Élise Marie Wilhelmine (January 23, 1896 - July 9, 1985) was the second daughter of Grand Duke William IV of Luxembourg. When her older sister Grand Duchess Marie-Adélaïde, who had succeeded the father, was forced to abdicate on January 14, 1919, Charlotte became the one who had to deal with the revolutionary tendencies in the country. Contrary to her sister, she chose not to meddle with its politics.

In a referendum about the new constitution on September 28, 1919, 77.8% of the Luxembourgish people voted for the continuation of a Grand Ducal monarchy with Charlotte as head of state. In this constitution, the power of the monarch was severely restricted.

During the German occupation in World War II, Charlotte, exiled in London, became an important symbol of national unity.

On November 6, 1919, she married Prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma, and they had six children:

   * Grand Duke Jean.
   * Princess Elizabeth (born 1922), who married HSH Duke Franz von Hohenberg (1927 - 1977). Has issue.
   * Princess Marie-Adélaide (born 1924), who married Karl, Count Henckel von Donnersmarck (born 1928).
   * Princess Marie Gabriele (born 1925), who married Knud, Count of Holstein-Ledreborg (1919 - 2001). Has issue.
   * Prince Charles (1927 - 1977), who married commoner Joan Dillon. Had issue.
   * Princess Alix (born 1929), who married Anton, Prince of Ligne.

On November 12, 1964, she abdicated in favour of the eldest, Prince Jean, who had then been regent for three years.

Charlotte died on July 9, 1985, from cancer.

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French Royals / Saintly French royals

« on: August 09, 2005, 02:24:19 PM »

Hello all,
I'd like to know how many you all can mention any French Royals that were canonised, beaitified or taken to the altars? I can think of several French ones:

-King Louis IXof France (1226-1270), made Saint Louis in 1297 by Pope Boniface VIII. Charlemagne can be counted over 500 times in his ancestry!!!!!
-Louise of Bourbon, daughter of Louis XV of France is now a Venerable in the Catholic church.

Non-French:
-Charles I of Austria-Hungary, is going to be a saint soon I think.

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The Danish Royal Family / Christian VII

« on: August 08, 2005, 09:01:52 AM »

Christian VII is a very interesting character. Can anyone forward any info on him, as well as portraits? Is he the least popular King of Denmark? If not, who is?

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Iberian Royal Families / Maria II of Portugal and her family

« on: June 18, 2005, 04:55:03 AM »

These are Queen Maria II's children. I'd like to know about them and also about her two husbands, Auguste de beauharnais (1810-1835), whom she amrried the year he died, and Ferdinand (later Fernando II) of Saxe-Coburg-Koháry, Queen Victoria's first cousin (1816-1885). Their children were:

-Pedro V of Portugal (1837-1861), died a widower. He ahd married Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1837-1859). Did she ever miscarry or become pregnant? I know she was young but... They both died of tiphoid didn't they?
-Luis I (1838-1889), whose son and grandson were murdered in 1908.
-Joao Maria Fernano Pedro de Alcantara Miguel Raphael Gabriel Leopoldo Carlos Antonio Gregorio Francisco d'Assis Borja Gonzaga Felix (1842-1861), died the same year as his father the King. What of? What did he look like, and what was he like?
-Maria Anna (1843-1884), died aged 40 after giving birth to 8 children in 15 years.
-Antonia (1845-1913), mother of the future Ferdinand I of Romania.
-Fernao Maria Luiz Miguel Raphael Gabriel Gonzaga Francisco d'Assis Antonio Apollinario (1846-1861) also died in 1861! What of?
-Augusto (1847-1889) died unmarried.
Any info at all on this not very happy family? Pics?

Thanks D~

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Italian Royal Families / Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children

« on: June 01, 2005, 02:55:43 AM »

Hello everyone,
I know this isn't technically an "Iberian" Royal Family since they reigned in Parma and Piacenza (Italy) but all the same, since their Bourbons, I thought this'd be the ebst place to post this question. I'm very interested in the extended family of Roberto I of Bourbon-Bourbon, Duke of Parma (1848-1907). I'm especially interested in having information on his children's lives, as well as his wives, and seeing photos of them all. This is his family:

(by his 1st wife, Princess María Grazia Pía of Bourbon-Two Sicilies (1849-1882)
1. Maria Luisa (1870-1899), married Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg, Prince of Bulgaria (she was never Tsarina of Bulgaria, since her husband proclaimed himself Tsar in 1908, after her death). She died in childbirth.
2. Ferdinando (1871-1872). Died aged 1 in Cannes.
3. Luisa Maria (1872-1943). Died unmarried in Brunsee (Austria)
4. Enrico (Henry) I (1873-1939). Died unmarried in Pianore.
5. Inmacolata (1874-1914). Died unmarried on the eve of WWI.
6. Giuseppe (Joseph) (1875-1950). Died unmarried.
7. Maria Teresa (1876-1959). Died unmarried in Brunsee.
8. Maria Pia (1877-1915). Died unmarried in Rorschacherberg.
9. Beatrice (1879-1946). Married the Italian Noble Pietro Lucchesi Palli and had children.
10. Elias (1880-1959), married Maria Anna of Austria and had issue.
11. Maria Anastasia (1881-1881) died at age 13 days.
12. Augusto (1882-1882) Born and died on the same day.

(by second wife, Maria Antonia of Bragança (1862-1959)
13. Adelaida (1885-1959), Died unmarried.
14. Sixte (1886-1934), married and had a daughter.
15. Franz-Xavier (1889-1977), married and had issue.
16. Francesca (Frances) (1890-1978), died unmarried.
17. Zita (1892-1898), married Karl I of Austria.
18. Felix (1893-1970); married Gd.Dchss. Charlotte I of Luxemburg. Had issue.
19. René (1894-1962), married Margarethe of denmark.
20.Maria Antonia (1895-1977), died unmarried.
21. Isabella (1898-1984), died unmarried.
22. Luigi (Louis) (1899-1967), married Maria of Savoy. had issue.
23. Enrichetta (henriette) (1903-1987). Died unmarried.
24. Gaetano (1905-1958), married Margarethe of Thurn und Taxis and had issue.

Phew! 24 Kids! Forward any info please? I know three daughters became nuns (I think they were from the second marriage), and one daughetr was deaf. Any info on anyone at all?
Dan :)

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The Wittlesbachs / Ludwig II

« on: May 12, 2005, 10:45:25 AM »

Ludwig II fascinates me. His life, his death and his surroundings are just...uffff... Well, I'd like to know as much as possible about him, I'm reading a bio in French and..ahem...it's a work in progress I'd like tos ee a photo of his lover, Prince Paul von Thurn und Taxis, whose brother married Helene "Nene" of Bavaria, Sissi's sister and Ludwig's cousin once removed. Any pics (I've seen paintings, I'm into the pickies) of Ludwig, Paul, Ludwig's family etc will eb greatly appreciated

Cheers!

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The Hohenzollern / Protestants/Catholics

« on: May 11, 2005, 07:59:27 AM »

Hello all once again,
I'd like to have a list of all the European dynasties with the religion of each one. If you wish to submit any comments that might help me, you may wish to do it according to Religion (as I'll do presently). It'll eb easier to count which are/were Catholic, Lutheran/Protestant, Orthodox. As there are no Jewish nor Muslim dynasties (I guess we can start off around the Middle Ages and thence), I don't think I'll get any answers to Jewish or Arab families. Please note I want dynasties that either reigned or had hereditary titles (not counting smaller lineages... I don't know... don't tell me that the Earls of whatever or the Coutns of wherever professed either this or that religion, I'm more interested in larger families). Hope we can all help each other!

CATHOLIC:
-Bourbon(-Spain)
-Bourbon(-France)
-Bourbon(-Parma)
-Bourbon(Naples and later Two Sicilies)
-Orléans (junior branch of the French Bourbons).
-Braganza and Braganza-Sajonia-Coburgo(Portugal)
-Braganza (Brazil)
-Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (Romania, till they turned Orthodox)
-Habsburg-Lorraine and Austria-Este(Austria-Hungary, Modena and Tuscanny)
-Wittelsbach (Bavaria); did Otto I of Greece turn Orthodox or remain Catholic?
-Savoy (Italy, Croatia)

LUTHERAN/PROTESTANT
-Hohenzollern (Brandenburg, Prussia and German Empire)
-Hesse (Kassel, Darmstadt, by the Rhine...)
-Schleswig-Holstein (and all its branches except the Greek Royal Family)
-Oldenburg

ORTHODOX
-Romanov
-Petrojich-Njegoch (Montenegro)
-Obrenovic (Serbia)
-Karageorgevic (Serbia and Yugoslavia)

I know there are tons more, this is just the first that came to mind Any help?