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I wanted to know how were the relations between the Romanovs and Countess Elena Stroganoff-Sheremetieff the daughter of Maria Nikolaivena. Did the Romanovs consider her as a cousin? Was she accepted by the imperial family?

The Stroganoffs / The Stroganoffs
« on: February 22, 2006, 03:08:50 PM »
Thanks to my great obsession with the wealth of Russian nobility, i have been researching heavily on this topic. One of the most surprising findings of my research has been that the Stroganoff wealth on eve of the revolution is greatly exagerated. I dont even think that Stroganovs were among the top five richest families on eve of the revolution.

In the beginning of my argument, i would like to clearly state that i am not talking about the 16th and 17th century when Stroganovs were indeed among the richest in the world. This is specifically on eve of the revolution. My assumptions of wealth are based on four criteria as defined by Dominic Lieven in his book -
Agricultural land, Forestry, Urban property and Industry.

1) Agricultural land- It is true that Stroganoffs were largest landowners in Russia on eve of the revolution. They owned 14,00,000 desyatin of land. However, as Dominic Lieven states most of this land was arid Ural land. The land in Ukraine was valued almost 10 times as Ural lands. DL states that the most valuable lands as per their valuation belonged to Yussupovs followed by Orlov-Davydovs and then Sheremetevs. Thus, Stroganoffs did not have any agricultural land to derive income from.

2) Forestry -  This was the only source of income for Stroganoffs. They owned large Perm forests which brought good income.

3) Urban Property - Surprisingly, Stroganoffs did not own any large real estate investments. They owned just the Stroganoff Palace on Nevsky and the Pavel Stroganoff palace. This brought no income. The biggest landowners in StPetersburg were Princes Beloselsky-Belozersky who owned the entire Krestovsky Island which brought in fantastic income. Biggest Landowners in Moscow were Sheremetevs. Another family with very valuable real estate were Counts Stenbock-Fermor who owned hotels and shopping arcades. Shuvalovs owned six apartment buildings.

4) Industry - This brought in large income for nobles. While it is true that Stroganoffs owned large iron plants and mines, they were all bankrupt. In 1908, Count Stroganoff closed down all his mines and factories and decided to concentrate on forestry (Aristocracy in Europe , Page no: 48 ) . Even Demidoffs were facing heavy losses. The Nobles with highest income from industry were Princes Abamelek-Lazarev. Also Yussupovs, Shuvalovs, Sheremetevs and Orlov-Davydov had large industrial investments.

                Thus what we see from above is that Stroganoffs did not have large investments nor land. Their "Wealth" was only their art collection and palaces. They paled in comparison with the other nobles.

Russian Noble Families / Nobility murdered during the Revolution
« on: February 08, 2006, 05:42:18 PM »
I wanted to know which high ranking nobles were killed during the revolution. From what i see, most of high ranking nobles like Yussupovs, orlov-davydovs, vorontsovs and stroganovs escaped safetly during the revolutions. I know a few who were killed

1) Two sons of Count SD Sheremetev, Boris and Dimitri were murdered at ostafievo.
2) Princess Maria Scherbatoff nee Stroganoff along with her children Alexandra and Vladimir were killed at their estate in ukraine.
3) Prince SS Abamelek-Lazarev was murdered by bolsheviks in caucasus.
4) One of Princes Ourousoff was also killed.

I would like others to add to this list. Did all others manage to escape?

Palaces in the Crimea / Vorontzov Palace - Odessa
« on: February 01, 2006, 04:22:33 PM »
I am looking for photos of Vorontzov Palace at Odessa. I have searched the net but not found any photos. Does the palace still exist?

Russian Noble Families / Counts Orlov-Davydov
« on: January 04, 2006, 09:13:15 AM »
In the book "The Aristocracy in Europe" the author Dominic Lieven writes that Counts Orlov Davydov were as wealthy as the Yussupovs. In another book i read that Counts Orlov Davydov and Yussupovs were the two richest families in russia.
What surprises me is how little we know of this family unlike the Yussupovs. Does anyone have more info about their wealth, palaces or genealogy?

Russian Noble Families / Estates and Palaces of Russian Nobility
« on: December 14, 2005, 06:27:00 PM »
Architect Fomin built a magnificent dacha for senator and sectretary of state Alexandr Polovtsev on the stone island. It was considered to be the most magnificent private residence to constructed in twentieth century. What has happened to this dacha? Have the interiors survived? Can someone please post the photos.
Also can someone please post photos of Polovtsev palace called "house of architects" on bolshaya morskaya.

Their World and Culture / Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« on: November 16, 2005, 01:41:52 PM »
Apart from the Tsar who was the richest man in russia, who was the richest member of the romanov family? Was it grand duke vladimir or some other grand duke?

Russian Noble Families / Counts Sheremetev
« on: November 06, 2005, 06:52:31 PM »
In 1900s, the Sheremetev Palace  (Fountain House) was used as Cultural Center and office of many trusts of Sheremetev Family. Then where did the Sheremetev family live? is there a second Sheremetev palace?

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Why Anastasia ??
« on: July 31, 2004, 02:50:23 AM »
This is one question for which I have not found an answer. After the revolution , there were many imposters . Some claiming to be Tatiana , Olga , Marie and even Alexie. Then Why is it that Anastasia was believed to be alive and not others? Why did Anastasia capture the world's imagination? Why did other imposters or claims not get such publicity? Does anyone have answers?

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