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This documentary seems to be made out of 60.000 metres of film seen and cut by Esfir Shub, a pioneering Soviet filmmaker and editor. I was curious if anyone of the other forum member ever had the opportunity to watch this. It seems much of the original film came from personal film archive of Nicholas II.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018246/?ref_=nv_sr_2

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Since he was involved in the WWI and he came to hate communism so hard, do we have any opinion of him on the Imperial family and their fate?

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The Byzantine Heritage / Agnes of France
« on: January 21, 2014, 11:01:01 AM »
Agnes of France (1171 – after 1204) was a daughter of Louis VII of France by his third wife Adèle of Champagne and Empress-consort to two Byzantine emperors, Alexios II Komnenos and Andronikos I Komnenos.
She was a younger half-sister of Marie de Champagne, Alix of France, Marguerite of France and Alys, Countess of the Vexin. She was a younger full sister of Philip II of France.

Betrothal and marriage

In early 1178, Philip, Count of Flanders visited Constantinople on his way back from the Holy Land. The Eastern Roman Emperor Manuel I Komnenos, who had already entertained Louis VII in Constantinople at Christmas 1147 during the Second Crusade, was perhaps finally convinced by Philip that France would be a desirable ally in Western Europe. Over the winter of 1178-1179 an Imperial embassy accompanying Philip, and led by the Genoese Baldovino Guercio,was sent to the French court to secure a match between Agnes and Alexios, the only son and heir apparent of Manuel by his second wife Maria of Antioch. This or some similar marriage alliance had been favored by Pope Alexander III as early as 1171.
It was not uncommon for princesses, when a future marriage had been agreed, to be brought up in their intended husband's family; this, indeed, is why Agnes probably never met her elder sister Alys, who lived in the Kingdom of England from the age of about nine, when her marriage to the future Richard I of England was agreed on (though this marriage never took place). Agnes took ship in Montpellier, bound for Constantinople, at Easter 1179. At Genoa the flotilla increased from 5 to 19 ships, captained by Baldovino Guercio.
On arrival in Constantinople in late summer 1179 Agnes was met by seventy high-ranking ladies and lavish festivities were organized for her. She was greeted with an oration from Eustathios, former Master of the Rhetors and archbishop of Thessalonica. She was perhaps now presented with an elaborate volume of welcoming verses by an anonymous author, sometimes called the Eisiterion.
According to William of Tyre, Agnes was eight on her arrival at Constantinople, while Alexios was thirteen. William got Alexios' age wrong (he was born on 14 September 1169) and there is no other source for Agnes' year of birth. If she was in fact eight, she was at least three years too young for marriage, according to most 12th-century views. However, William of Tyre, who was present at the ceremony, seems to describe it as a full wedding (matrimonii legibus ... copulare); in this he is followed by some other non-Byzantine sources and by many modern authors.
The ceremony took place in the Trullo Hall, in the Great Palace, on 2 March 1180. Agnes was officially renamed Anna. Eustathios of Thessalonica produced a speech to celebrate the occasion, whose title in the manuscript is Oration on the Public Celebrations of the Betrothal of the Two Royal Children. This ceremony came approximately one month after the wedding of Alexios' half-sister Maria Porphyrogenita to Renier of Montferrat, conducted by the Patriarch of Constantinople, Theodosios.

Empress

On September 24, 1180, Manuel died and Alexios succeeded him as Emperor. He was too young to rule unaided; his mother, Maria of Antioch, exercised more influence in affairs of state than Alexios or Anna.
In 1183 Maria of Antioch was displaced by a new power behind the throne, Andronikos I Komnenos. Andronikos was a first cousin of Manuel and was known to have harbored imperial ambitions for himself. He is believed to have arranged the deaths by poisoning of Maria Porphyrogenita and her husband Renier; he certainly imprisoned, and soon afterwards executed, Maria of Antioch. Andronikos was crowned co-ruler with Alexios; then, in October of the same year, he had Alexios strangled. Anna was now 12, and the approximately 65-year-old Andronikos married her.
Andronikos had previously been married (his first wife's name is unknown). He had had sexual relationships with two nieces (Eudokia Komnene and Theodora Komnene) and with Philippa of Antioch. Philippa was a daughter of Constance of Antioch and her first husband and consort Raymond of Poitiers; she was also a sister of Maria of Antioch and thus maternal aunt of Alexios. Andronikos had two sons by his first wife; he also had a young son and daughter from his affair with Theodora. His eldest son, Manuel already had a son of his own, the future Alexios I of Trebizond.
Anna was Empress consort for two years, until the deposition of Andronikos in September 1185. In an attempt to escape the popular uprising that ended his rule, Andronikos fled from Constantinople with Anna and his mistress (known only as Maraptike). They reached Chele, a fortress on the Bithynian coast of the Black Sea, where they tried to take ship for the Crimea. Their ship was prevented from sailing by contrary winds. Andronikos was eventually captured and returned to the capital, where he was tortured and killed on September 12, 1185.

Later life

Anna survived Andronikos' fall and is next heard of in 1193, when she is said by a Western chronicler to have become the lover of Theodore Branas, a military leader who fought on the Empire's northern frontier. They did not at first marry.
After the fall of Constantinople in 1204, Agnes derived respect from the Latin barons due to her being a former Empress. According to Robert of Clari, Agnes had a bad reputation and could only talk through a translator because she did not know French. At that time she was 30 years old and had spent most of her life in the Byzantine court.
Anna and Theodore eventually married, at the urging of the Latin emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople, in summer 1204. Theodore Branas continued to fight for the Latin Empire, and is last heard of in 1219, by which time Agnes has already disappeared from the historical record. They had at least one daughter, who married Narjot de Toucy.
Her date of death is sometimes given in modern genealogies as "1220" or "after 1240". No primary source for these dates has been identified.

Cultural references

The crusader Robert of Clari, writing only 25 years after the event, is clear about the rich entourage that accompanied Agnes to Constantinople:
then the king arrayed his sister very richly and sent her with the messengers to Constantinople, and many of his people with her ... When they were come, the emperor did very great honor to the damsel and made great rejoicing over her and her people ...
However, in that account the embassy is attributed to Agnes' brother, Philip II of France, though Philip did not succeed to the French throne until 18 September 1180.
Agnes is the subject of the historical novel Agnes of France (1980) by Greek writer Kostas Kyriazis (b. 1920). The novel describes the events of the reigns of Manuel, Alexios and Andronikos through her eyes. She is also part of the cast of the sequels Fourth Crusade (1981) and Henry of Hainaut (1984). All three have been in print in Greece since their first edition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_of_France,_Byzantine_Empress

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Their World and Culture / Electricity In Victorian Houses
« on: January 05, 2014, 06:44:50 AM »
What I'd like to find out is: what was the first use of electricity in victorian houses? I always thought it was for illumination, but did really go that way or was it for some other uses even before? In other words, when do you think the first sockets were placed in victorian houses and what for?

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I wonder if someone here knows something more on this:

''In the movie, it is remarked a couple of times that the Lee Harvey and Marina Oswald became friends with members of the "White Russian" community in the US. However, it is never made clear whether this term means people who had emigrated from Belarus or were White Russians in the sense that they were active anti-Communists. The term "White Russian" has historically been used to refer to both groups. Therefore, I'm wondering which group is being alluded to in the film.

(A few years ago, I read "On the Trail of the Assassins;" and, if I recall correctly, Jim Garrison was equally ambiguous about what he meant by this term.) ''

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102138/board/nest/211216334?p=1

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I copy from www.imdb.com


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by travelingmary 7 hours ago (Sat Nov 3 2012 18:38:06)   

There was a project filmed where modern people were chosen to live in an Edwardian manor house to see what it would be like to be the manor born and what it would be like to be the servants. It is interesting to see their reactions over their time there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DlV54l62g


Randommovies2002 posted in another thread a documentary on servants.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE0ploBYCkc

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Alexandra Feodorovna / Had she been less happy in her marriage ...
« on: March 01, 2012, 01:58:14 PM »
I was just reflecting on the empress's life, as I do quite every day, and I thought that maybe she had less opportunities to grow up because of her marriage that was everything she could poosibly wish for? I mean, she finally had the man she loved and he was so kind to her for the rest of their lives. I realise she was always sad and anxious about her son, yet she had no other emotional problems, so maybe she didn't really grow up emotionally after her marriage.

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In pre-Soviet Russia, Boris Savinkov leads a terrorist faction of Socialist-Revolutionary Party members responsible for the deaths of governors and ministers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412042/

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By directing "Vsadnik Po Imeni Smert",Mosfilm studio chief Russian director Karen Shaknazarov has made a very different type of film.This is the second time in his cinematographic career that he has chosen history as a theme for his film."Poisons or the World History of Poisoning" was his first film which dealt with a seemingly difficult theme of history in Russian cinema.His earlier films were musical tales and dramas about irrational universes.History is presented in a faithful manner in this film and it is amazing how old worldly charm of Russian capital Moscow has been truthfully delineated especially in the scenes involving crowds.This film is based on a book by famous Russian revolutionary/terrorist Boris Savinkov who was given the title "General of terror" as he made up his mind to eliminate high officials in Russia who were responsible for poor people's miseries.It is true that "The rider named death" has a simplistic theme yet it remains a gripping film as there is a brilliant game of cat and mouse between life and death.The portrayal of women characters essential to the film's progress is little weak as they have been denied enough screen space. This is something which might bother feminine audience of this film. According to Mr.Shaknazarov in the past terrorists killed high officials not ordinary folks but today's terrorists kill ordinary folks.This film was presented at 13th International Film Festival of Kerala,India 2008 where a retrospective of his films was held.

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Other Palaces / palace in Tashkent
« on: August 18, 2011, 02:14:57 PM »
anyone remembers the name or has any info on the palace where princess natalia romanovskaya-iskander was born?

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Their World and Culture / change of russian orthography after 1917?
« on: June 17, 2011, 11:49:51 AM »
I found this in the imdb trivia on The Barber of Siberia, I never heard of changes in russian orthography, only in the calandar. maybe someone here knows more, why did they have to make changes and if those were important or not?

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if there were to be a way out to england but only for the children, could they ask to leave the country? do you think england would accept them or would they insist on financial independence?

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Their World and Culture / samovar question
« on: May 29, 2011, 06:09:27 AM »
having no idea what a samovar really looks like I'd like to know if it's still used today, if it's easy to buy one and if tea made that way is better than the one we make in a simple teapot.

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I'm interested in the period not only of the great war but also some years before and after ... where do you think could I find a list of such movies? any ideas?

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