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the name of this particular dynasty is Romanov-Holstein-Gottorp
Foreign variant from Almanach de Gotha. In Russia it was "The Russian Imperial House". Since 1913 Jubilee title "House of Romanovs" was also used.

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« on: September 20, 2008, 05:07:46 AM »
HRH Prince Michael of Russia
You mean eldest son of HH Prince Andrew? Interesting to note that his syle (HRH) is higher than that of his father despite his morganality.


Stanislav Dumin, Sergei Mironenko and Evgeniy Kiselev today at Echo Moskvi Radio.

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: Sumner Moore Kirby
« on: May 28, 2006, 01:19:31 PM »
Does anyone know the name of Mr. Kirby's second wife, who was also from the Bagration family?
Valentine Wagner:

Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Wedding Palaces
« on: March 19, 2006, 03:21:21 AM »

Palaces in St. Petersburg / Re: Wedding Palaces
« on: March 16, 2006, 02:10:47 PM »
If i am not wrong, isn't wedding palace the palace of Baron Von Derviz?
IIRC von Derviz (von der Vise) was not Baron. He sold the palace in 1903 or 1904 to GD Andrew Vladimirovich

Palaces in St. Petersburg / Wedding Palaces
« on: March 16, 2006, 10:18:36 AM »
3/3 at 3:33pm, "Wedding Palace No 1", English Embankment, 28

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: nicoletta romanoff
« on: March 12, 2006, 09:10:40 AM »
As historian I say:

of course they are a  Highnesses and prince and princess because they are members of House Holstein- Gottorp. They are legaly : Highnesses and prince and princess of Dukedom of Holstein-Gottorp.

Head of House is Dmitri Pavlovich , he is a Furst and Duke of Holstein -Gottorp and a head de jure of Romanov family as senior male in family.
As historian, do you know in 1767 Duke Paul Petrovich ceded his lands in Holstein and Schleswig?

'Prince of Dukedom of Holstein-Gottorp' sounds strange. Not Dukedom but Duchy. Not Prince but Duke. 'Furst and Duke of Holstein -Gottorp' is also strange... Are you really historian?

H.I.H Grand Duke George of Russia don`t exist,

exist : H.I.H Georg, Prince of Prussia
First of all, please use Orthodox form for Orthodox person: George Mihailovich, not Lutheran 'Georg'.

At second, why do you call Prince of Prussia with the style of Imperial Highness? Prussia never was Empire.

Finally, please give us base of your statement. For example, something like your 'humble' opinion...

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: nicoletta romanoff
« on: February 03, 2006, 03:28:58 AM »
The Russian Empire not longer exist, legally speaking therefore none can be entitle to call himself PRINCE OF RUSSIA, but academically and socially speaking The member of the former imperial family are Prince/ Princess of Russia.
If so then why not Grand Duke / Grand Duchess? Also what is legal depends on jurisdiction. King Constantine of the Hellenes is King for Danes but not for Republican Greeks.

Whether you think that the descendent of His Highness Prince Roman Petrovich are princes or princess or not, is just your merely opinion. To me and to many member of this forum they are Highnesses and prince and princess of Russia.
Opinion is (as online Webster said) "belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge". I should to say that positive knowledge on this matter is very strong. There is no possibility for these individuals to hold this styles. They are fakes if they use fake titles and you are ignoramus if you believe fakes. Sorry.

Respecting each other opinion is a very important tool in this forum.
Exactly. As like as respecting correct facts.

BTW, Princess Catherine Ioannovna (b.1915) is merely Serene Highness. Poor goddaughter of Tsar-Martyr! She is not morganaut and does not pretend to Highness...  ;D

Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: nicoletta romanoff
« on: February 01, 2006, 07:34:39 PM »
Her Highness Princess Elisabeth of Russia ( herself daugther of HH  Prince Nicholas Romanovich of Russia )
They are not Highnesses. And not prince/ss. Just morganauts.

Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Empress Anna Ioannovna
« on: January 23, 2006, 04:07:57 AM »
So Anna Ioannovna's testament was irrelevant, as she had no business being Empress anyway?  :-/
Strictly speaking, in accordance with Catherine I's testament nor Anna neither Elisabeth should reign. In the case of Peter II's death in minority the throne should pass to Caesarevna Anna and her issue (i.e. future Peter III). And first violation of this testament was when Peter II was proclaimed of age and Menshikov was retired from his post of tutor and exiled. Catherine I cancelled Peter the Great's "Statute on Succession", Anna later restored it in full force and based on this document to issue her own testament.

Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Empress Anna Ioannovna
« on: January 23, 2006, 03:53:27 AM »
Did Anna Ioannovna mention Elizabeth or Peter in her testament?
No it was not necessary. Elisabeth was mentioned in the testament of her mother, Empress Catherine Alexeyevna, for the case if Peter II will die in minority. This testament was violated by Dolgorukovs.

Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Empress Anna Ioannovna
« on: January 22, 2006, 08:11:52 AM »
They were imprisoned in Russia at first, but later Catherine II allowed them to return to Holstein
To Denmark.

with their father, where they died - the last being Ekaterina in 1807.
Anton Ulrich died in Russia.

She had a better claim to the throne than Elizabeth, Peter III, and Catherine II
Anna Ioannovna's testament granted Russian succession to the only male offspring of Anna Leopoldovna and Anton Ulrich. Thus Princess Catherine had no succession rights.

(not to speak of Paul who may have not been a romanov at all).
You want to say Prinzessin Anna von Mecklenburg or Prinz Johann von Braunschweig were more Romanov?

News Links / Not so bad
« on: December 24, 2005, 03:21:29 AM »
The Farm Palace will be completely restored in 2006, the fire cost is appr. $600'000 only.

Links in Russian:

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