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Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: Memoirs Recommendations
« on: December 04, 2014, 06:35:56 PM »
Olga Alexandrovna herself also wrote memoires first published in Danish ,then also translated to English " 25 Chapters of my Life" There are also many nice photos in the book.

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Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re: Anna Anderson Annyonace
« on: October 08, 2014, 07:23:12 PM »
I came across Chat Noir on Amazon's website when King & Wilson's book on Anastasia came out. She was so determined not to listen to reason that I gave up.

To my eye AA did not look remotely like Anastasia, and, as Annie put it earlier in this thread, her story (particularly about her 'escape') had holes in it bigger than a semi-detached.

Ann

I know that ChatNoir has changed his mind about AA and now believes like most people that she was FS.  I know that from another site he used to write in.  So ofcourse we can change our minds as we learn and really want to learn when new facts appear.

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I have read some books by Elisabeth Heresch. The one mentioned by Sarushka The Russian Empire wasen´t very interesting in my opinion. Also the photos were of rather bad quality. I read the German edition. I don´t know if the English version is better. I also read her biographies on Rasputin,Nicholas II and on Tsarevich Alexei. The one I liked best was the one on Alexei. Many lovely photos there! I also have a book on some Romanov palaces like Pavlovsk,Pushkin,Peterhof,Gatchina,Oranienbaum. ´Peterburger Zarenschlösser`. A splendid photo book with many nice colour photos. There is also a book soon to be published by Heresch these days on the whole Romanov dynasty.

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Another mysterious twist to the story happened the 30th of July 1998. That morning it was found that the railings surrounding Larissa´s grave had been removed. Shortly afterwards some stone masons arrived to the grave and cleaned the headstone and the marble surrounds. Enquiries were made to the Shepway District Councel and to the Tudor family but noone knew who had given order about this work. This according to Sue Edwards in her little book "No resting place for a Romanov". She is a local historian from Kent. She wondered if it was the Russian Embassy or some other Russians who had ordered this work to be done. Quite a mystery isen´t it? But until this day noone seems to know more than twenty years ago. But somehow mysteries have their own beauty.
Stepan, do you think there is a possibility, that some autorithy DID open Larissas grave then in  1998 ?
To be able to take a sample from her remains, and check it against the DNA of the IF.
There were still one missing grand duchess at that time. And the only grand duchess the scientist agreed about, was GD Olga N.
Some people speculated that it could have been GD Tatiana who was missing.
So only to make  sure the missing GD wasn´t peacefully buried in England, instead of the Urals.

Tamara

I think that anything is possible here. But it seems that the grave wasen´t opened but only cleaned. Headstone and the marble around.But who knows what could have happened during a dark night? Sue Edwards thought it was a strange coincidence that this happened during the same month as the Romanov burial in St. Peteraburg.

Stepan





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Another mysterious twist to the story happened the 30th of July 1998. That morning it was found that the railings surrounding Larissa´s grave had been removed. Shortly afterwards some stone masons arrived to the grave and cleaned the headstone and the marble surrounds. Enquiries were made to the Shepway District Councel and to the Tudor family but noone knew who had given order about this work. This according to Sue Edwards in her little book "No resting place for a Romanov". She is a local historian from Kent. She wondered if it was the Russian Embassy or some other Russians who had ordered this work to be done. Quite a mystery isen´t it? But until this day noone seems to know more than twenty years ago. But somehow mysteries have their own beauty.

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At least I think that she was a Russiam lady.  From the way she wrote some words at some documents I can see the influence from  Russian letters.   It seems that the relatives of Owen Tudor diden´t know much about her either. Or even ever met her. At the marriage certificate she wrote that her father´s name was Adolph Haouk. Michael Occleshaw wondered if this name Haouk had something to do with Julia Hauke,the Russian court lady who married into the Hesse-Darmstadt grand ducal family and created the Battenberg-Mountbatton branch of the family. Who knows? I wonder where Julia Haukes family came from? Perhaps from the baltic states as the name doesen´t sound Russian.  It seems also that some inhabitants in Lydd referred to her as the "Russian princess".    So my guess is that she was from a Russian upper class or princely family. I wonder what Occleshaw himself thinks of the matter today and if he has continued his research?

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It´s only a wild speculation from Michael Occleshaw that this photo is of Larissa Feodorovna. It can be just anybody!  There is no known photo of
Larissa. There certainly was some mystery about her whoever she was.

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Yes,I read it many years ago. It is a novel written in the 1950´s and is based on the life of Anna Anderson up to that time. It was well written and I really enjoyed it.

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I bought the book by Ferro from the French Amazon. I don´t think it´s been translated into English and I doubt it will be either. Yes, it´s very much an embarassment, much more than I can say really! This idea of survival is nothing new to Ferro who in his biography of Nicholas II from 1992 advanced the theory of possible survival of the female part. In his latest book, "La verité... he even refers to a very obscure source, Alexis de Durazzo,prince d´Anjou who pretended to be a grandson of GD Marie Nicholaievna and wrote a book according to this belief.
It´s on that level so you can imagine the rest!
I have noticed lately that several books have been published with the same possible survival theme. For instance " Romanov Conspiracy" by Glenn Meade.  Ms Stravlo who wrote The lost Romanov Icon together with Carlos Mundy also says she found a manuscript in an archive in the Vatican written by Marga Boodts who was a GD Olga pretender. It was translated to Spanish and published last year with the title "Estoy Viva, las memorias ineditas de la ultima Romanov".  So it goes on and on!

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I'm still waiting for that list of historians who feel the Romanovs were not shot.  This is a history forum, after all . . . at least for some of us.  Such assertions about historiography should not be made if they cannot be substantiated.

I wonder what the delay is.

I know one ,the French historian Marc Ferro. He believes in the Perm theory, that the female part of the family survived, Just like the theory published in "The file on the Tsar" by Summers and Mangold in 1976. Last year Ferro published "La verité sur la tragedie des Romanovs" (The truth about the Romanov tragedy).  There is nothing new in this book and he says very little about DNA or the findings in 1991. In 1976 there was reason to believe in what the British journalists wrote but today it´s all different.  Marc Ferro is considered to be a serious historian so I don´t understand his attitude. It´s really strange!

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Ferro says very little about the DNA and never really discusses it.  I don´t know if he really believes in these survival stories  but certainly thinks it a possibility and a hypothesis. I don´t think the publisher has read it or knows much about the subject. They probably consider him a respected and  serious historian and accept anything he writes. He has earlier written a lot on World war 1, the Russian Revolution and other subjects. In 1990 he published a biography on Nicholas II. I think it was rather badly written and one of the worst I´ve read.

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I have read the book recently. Nothing new or interesting here. It´s based very much on Summers and Mangolds " File on the Tsar" from 1976. It is indeed strange that Ferro who seems to be a respected historian in France could write such a book now after so many years with DNA and all the evidence available now. In the 1970´s it was  different.

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Yes, it´s about Marga Boodts. Her memoires are going to be published in September. "Estoy Viva", I am alive.  I have read she wrote these memoires in the 60´s but for some reason are published only now after so many years. I don´t know who she really was. Perhaps a German woman. She lived in Germany for many years. She was married to a man, Carlo Boodts for a couple of years in the 1920´s. Her final years she lived in Menaggio in northern Italy where she died in 1976. She was visited by the authors of The file of the Tsar, Anthony Summers and Tom Mangold in the 70´s. They said that nothing emerged from the meeting to support the notion that she was a Grand Duchess or a Romanov. But she was suppported by prince Sigismund of Prussia,first cousin of the Tsar´s children. He was also as is known a supporter of Anna Anderson. Perhaps Marga Boodts was an interesting woman in her own right just like Anna Anderson.

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All this reminds me very much about "Blood relative" by Michael Gray,a pseudonym.  It was published in 1998. He tells about a mysterious man Nicholas Chebotarev and a group of Russian emigrées in Ireland. He also mentions Collon and other places in Ireland visited by various Russians. An intersting read but though it is written as fact it seems  most people regard it more like fiction.

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I hope I wont be bamboozled or harassed or cursed out for this  but a new interesting book is coming out in 2012 its called
http://www.libreriaproteo.com/libro-964690-ESTOY-VIVA-LAS-MEMORIAS-INEDITAS-DE-LA-ULTIMA-ROMANOV.html
The book is in Spanish but I translated it to English:

 The English title is: I AM ALIVE: UNPUBLISHED REPORTS OF LAST ROMANOV (ON PAPER)
OLGA NICOLAIEVNA , MARTINEZ ROCK , 2012 ISBN 9788427038967

SYNOPSIS in English:
This book presents for the first time an exclusive and unprecedented and poignant testimony written by the eldest daughter of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia: Olga Nicolaievna. Because Olga was not killed with the rest of her family, as it is officially made to believe, on the morning of July 17, 1918 during the Bolshevik revolution. This theory was a lie for years maintained a tacit pact of silence between the Vatican, several powerful governments and some of the great royal houses of Europe. I am alive is a passionate and intimate look reveals, finally, the whole truth. Olga will accompany throughout their memories: from early childhood through the recesses of the palace, to the rebellion that led to the downfall of the Romanovs, the months of captivity to which they were subjected, unique details and unknown on the night of the controversial slaughter, until his secret life in Germany protected by Kaiser Wilhelm II, or its relentless flight for the rest of his life under the false name of Marga Boodts.Un heartbreaking story and all that remained hidden under key for more than fifty years in the hands of Maria Grazia Annoni, heir to the legacy of the Grand Duchess, and he finally sees the light. A document that puts an end to the many unknowns that have weighed in on the latest generation Russian dynasty, the Romanovs. A cry of pride and courage of a woman whose only wish was to be recognized and respected for what she really was: the Russian Grand Duchess Olga Nicolaievna.

http://www.libreriaproteo.com/libro-964690-ESTOY-VIVA-LAS-MEMORIAS-INEDITAS-DE-LA-ULTIMA-ROMANOV.html

Google the Spanish title you will see tons of websites on it.

Interesting! So it will also be published in English?  When?
 

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