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Last Satruday i was at at Straubing where the Wedding of Prince Francois of Orleans and Theresa von Einsiedel took place.
Report and pics here:

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Last Satruday i was at at Straubing where the Wedding of Prince Francois of Orleans and Theresa von Einsiedel took place.
Report and pics here:

Is this long delay typical of Hohenzollern style or are people thinking there's something wrong?

As far as i remeber there pictures of Georg Friedrich's christening. I found it strange that no pic of the twins where published after the christening.

The Hohenzollern / Re: King Wilhelm II of Wurttemberg and his family
« on: December 26, 2013, 06:02:19 AM »
Perhaps he also had in mind the negative influence of Romanov blood on the dynasties of Württemberg and their close kin, the Orange-Nassaus in the Netherlands? In both houses you find a concentration of what the 19th century saw as "degenerate traits": gay or bisexual monarchs (Karl I and Wilhelm II himself and Willem II (married to a Romanov)), heirs not marrying and dying young (the Prince of Orange and his brothers), mental health problems (Willem III) and general succession problems. It could appear that the political (to be as German as possible) was linked to the blood, with the British RF bringing in hemophilia and liberalism and the Romanovs degeneracy and despotism, all of it eventually leading to other places than healthy German unity and stability. It would be enough to see how the Württembergs' step-kin, the Princes of Oldenburg, fared once they married a Romanov and moved to Russia. Quite unlike the Oldenburgs who remained in their ancestral land and reproduced like a mini-version of the vigorous Hohenzollerns. The same could of course be said of the House of Hesse (and quite a few other German dynasties with Romanov links too.)

BVut Wilhelm II. had no Romano blood at all. They only children from a Romwnov who married to Württemberg where the daughters of King Wilhelm, I. and Queen Catharina but from both there are no descendatns today and the daughters of Duke Carl Eugen and Duchess Vera.
I thin k the succession problems ahd more to do as in the case of Wilöhelm II. there where many marriages to close Family members. His parents where first cousins as where huis maternal grandparents so Duke Friedrich Eugen and Duchess Friederike Sophie Dorothee where tree times his great great grandparents.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: August 19, 2012, 01:35:52 AM »
I think the Queen Mother returned the royal pieces to the crown, but the Greville collection and the Boucheron tiara were her own property. Maybe she will them to Charles.

It was said after her death that her entire Estate went the Queen because the Sovereign is exemtoed from paying death taxes.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: August 18, 2012, 12:07:02 PM »
Yes. But that was "borrowed" from the Queen and not given to her. A lot of Diana's jewels in the early days were made clear to be "on loan" from the Queen. That included the diamond necklace on first trip to Australia, the diamond watch from the Queen collection etc...

But we don't know if the Bocuheron Hoeycomb tiara, the 5 row Freville diamond necklace and lots of the brooches Camilla wears where given to her. Probably they are also lieftime loans from the Queen. and apparently the Teck Cresecent tiara is also on loan to her but she hasn't worn it yet.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: August 10, 2012, 03:06:22 PM »
Not sure. I think the Danish Royal Family was clever to make a jewel pool which they they can lent or borrow if the need arise. I think that was because the bulk came through from the inheritance of Queen Lovisa (wife of King Frederick VIII). Indeed the continental royals wore much more jewelry than the British ones. I think they enjoy seeing their royals looking like one and proud of them, while there is a class system in Britain that is jealous of finery. The last one to use clothes and jewels to win popularity was Diana, and maybe the Queen wanted to limit Kate's expose as she did not want the young woman to overshadow her. I agree that was the Queen's intention to limit the jewels to only the ruling branch of the family. I think it makes sense now, as events seem to indicate that it is possible that the story that the queen asked "where are the jewels ?" the night Diana died might be true.

In Denmark there are only a few jewels in a fouindation and these can only be worn by the Queen. The same for the Crown jewelswho are on dislpay at Roseborg Castle. All other jewels are prvate owned.
For example from Queen Ingrid's jewels she left her ruby Parure to Crown Prince Frederk, a plamette heartshaped tiara and a turqiose tiara to Queen Margrethe II., a pearl and star tiara to Princess Benedikte and the Cartier Khedive tiara (worn by her daughters and graqnddaughters on their Wedding days= to Queen Anne-Marie.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: August 10, 2012, 02:58:09 PM »
Well...But even the Countess of Wessex did appear in a tiara. She was much down the pecking order than The Duchess of Cambridge. It would be very interesting to see when inevitably that they will have to appear formally in some function that merits one. By that time it would be painfully clear the absence of such a "tool of the trade". I am very "old school" in my ideas about royalty. Queen Mary when Duchess of York wore nice jewels (she was in the same position as Kate is today, the wife of the son of the heir to the throne).

But alo the Duchess of Cornwall doesn't wear a tiara on official Visits abroad like in Spring this year to the scandinavian Countries. There where Gala dinners at this Visit in Denmark and Norway but both black tie. And the danish Royals usually wear often tiaras also for black tie Events.


BTW her great grandmother Irina Mikhailovna Rayevskaya, first married to Count Alexander Mikhailovich Tolstoy (this union having produced Princess Sophie's grandmother), secondly married the Russian Mecklenburg morganaut George, Count of Carlow. Their descendants are today the claimants to the thrones of Mecklenburg. 

It is interesting how many things genealogy can show us...

Prince Georg Friedrich is also a descendant of the Protestant branch of Ysenburg family as the great-grandmother of his mother Donata is Princess Emma von Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Büdingen,who died in 1926...

And another Princess Emma zu Ysenburg and Büdingen (1870-1944) is his ancestor. She was married to Wolfgang 1. Fürst zu Castell-Rüdenhausen.
See here for the ancestors of Georg Friedrich and Siophie uop to the VII. generation.

The Windsors / Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
« on: November 21, 2010, 05:32:58 AM »
There are at least a dozen tiaras that are not frequently worn -- some have not been seen in decades. And if Alexandra's are intact, the number is even higher. I hope that she receives two -- the Strathmore for the wedding and the Lover's Knot for her first overseas tour. In a fantasy world, the Windsors could get their hands on Q Victoria's sapphire tiara that the Harewoods sold years ago. It would be perfect on Kate, given its size and her young age.  

The harewood'sstillhave the sapphire tiara but have sold a lot of other tiaras inherited from Princess mary. Some time ago there was a pic of the Countess posted on the Royal Jewels MB where she wore the sapphire tiara in the same way around her hairdoo like Queen Victoriia.
As for tiaras there are also a number of tiaras from Queen mary who where not seen since 100 years like the surrey fringe tiara, the ladies of England tiara. but it could have been that they where brojken up to create new Jewels.


She looked so much like her father!

Quite a bit yes.

Daughter of Ruprecht and Antonia and aunt of HRH Duke Franz,the present Head of the Bavarian RF.
The Princess's interment will be within the closest family circle,on thursday november 4th a Requiem
will be held in the Theatinerkirche,Munich.

courtesy Mardam.

That will be the official Requiem. The actual funeral took place last Friday 29.10. at Kloster Andechs and afterwards she was buried at the Wittelsbacher buril Ground down the Hill at Andechs: See here my pics:
The same was done when her husband died 2 years ago. First the actual fuenral in private and later an official Reqiem at the Theatinerchurch at Munich.

Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: Scandinavian royal residences
« on: August 08, 2010, 02:38:16 AM »
That is the entrance from Slotbacken. There are big marble staricases on both sides which lead to the hall of State on the one side and Slotkyrkan on the other.

Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: Scandinavian royal residences
« on: August 06, 2010, 03:54:21 PM »
On the right side of the South Range is Slotkyrkan the Palace Church.
The Ballroom is the White See or Vitva Havet.
And in the East Range are the so called Princess Sibyllas Appartements (don't know where there) which are used by the King, Queen and Crown Princess for their daiyl work (for example the Engagement Press Conference of Vicotira and Daniel) and they also have their offices there.

The Greek Royal Family / Re: Greek royal jewels
« on: July 10, 2010, 11:52:33 AM »
On one of the jewel boards (because of the recent wedding) there was info on this diadem. It was made from 3 brooches (belonging to Queen Alexandrine and left to  Queen Ingrid), I believe--probably connected into a stomacher as Ashdean posted. It was converted to the diadem known as the Floral Brooch Tiara as present from Ingrid to Queen Anne-Marie. This, at least, according to the royal forums. The tiara was also worn by Princess Marie-Chantal at her wedding.

Is it the one that Princess Theodora wore to Prince Joachim of Denmark's 2nd wedding?


The taira made out of three brooches is a simlar one belonging to Anne-Marie's sister Pricness Benedikte. This one was originally a stomacher who belonged to Queen Victoria of Sweden and was inherited by Queen Anne-Marie.

The Windsors / Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« on: June 13, 2010, 03:17:24 AM »
If born during the lifetime of Elizabeth II. children of both prince William and prince Henry wopuld bo Lord/Lady Windsor. Only when Charles succeedes the would become HRH Prince/Princess. This according to the Letters patent from 1917. Only the oldest son of Prince William would be HRH prince if born during the lifetime of Elizabeth II.

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