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The first photo looks like a Photoshop compilation to me.

Having Fun! / Re: Some funny and not so funny things
« on: March 12, 2015, 10:55:01 PM »
"In America, you find a party. In Russia, the Party finds you!"

(I can't remember where I heard that one.)

I do too, Maria. : ) I think you're right about Ian Vorres' book being the closest thing she did to an interview - that, and the series of articles she wrote for a Danish newspaper in the early 1940s, which later became "25 Chapters Of My Life".

I always wish I knew who the photographers were in photos, like the beautiful one above.

Nicholas II / Re: Diary of Nicholas II
« on: August 22, 2014, 07:59:37 AM »
Well, I picked up my copies of Tsar Nicholas' 1905-1918 diaries in Amsterdam earlier today.

August 10, 1911 (Old Style) : Nicholas had returned from Krasnoe Selo to Peterhof around 00h30. At 9h30 he, Olga and Alexei left for Krasnoe Selo, where they spent a considerable part of the day reviewing troops etc. He lunched with officiers of the units he had just reviewed at 12h30, had 'obed' at Krasnoe Selo at 7 o'clock and went to a theater there. He returned to Peterhof shortly after midnight. Nicholas did not mention any names of people with whom he had luncheon on this day.

Was "Olga" Olga Nikolaevna, or Olga Alexandrovna?

The Final Chapter / Re: Alexandra's mental health post abdication
« on: August 22, 2014, 07:57:46 AM »
I know there's a thread on Alexandra's health somewhere, but I don't know if it's along the same vein.

Whether she was actually mentally ill or not, she was in physical pain, and prolonged physical pain takes a toll on the mind. Add to that the pressures she was under every day, and it's little wonder she couldn't cope emotionally.

Marie Feodorovna / Re: Marie Feodorovna--WWI and the Crimea
« on: August 21, 2014, 10:41:34 PM »
March 10/23, 1917

"Still had a little lunch on the train at 12 o'clock with the usual: Zina M, Sandro, Shervashidze, Dolgourouky and (unclear). Arrived in Kiev at one o'clock. Everything changed. No one at the station, only on the platform, civilians with red bands. Horrible, no flag on the palace. Received in the house by officers and Ignachev (governor general of Kiev) in civilian dress, whom I saw for a moment. The came Baby, remained until half past five. Awful reunion! Finally got a telegram from my Nicky, who arrived at Tsarskoe. It is said that he was not allowed to see his own family; those horrible villains. Sandro came to dinner. He and Serge have resigned."

At the end of March, the Provisional Government gave orders for the Dowager Empress to take up residence in the Crimea on the Black Sea, where several members of the family had country houses. She was lodged in the palace of Ai Todor with Xenia and Sandro. The couple's children joined them, and Irina and Felix Yussoupov moved into their own palace, Koreiz. The Dowager Empress's younger daughter, Olga, came with her new husband and their son Tihon. The former commander-in-chief, Nicholas Nikolaevich, and his brother Peter, both with their wives, came to Dyulber Palace. In the beginning, the family lived in the Crimea with a measure of freedom. The Dowager Empress still had her car at her disposal ad it was used frequently for outings in the picturesque surroundings. But the effects of the revolution began to make themselves felt with increasing intrusiveness. Money and food became scarce, and above all, uncertainty about the fate of Nicholas and his family was nerve-wracking. In a letter begun on May 4, 1917, to her brother, Prince Valdemar, Maria Feodorovna described the situation:

If I'm reading this correctly, there are some errors.

According to Olga Alexandrovna (see Vorres' biography), it was she and Sandro who convinced Maria Feodorovna to leave Kiev and move to the Crimea, not the Provisional Government. This was indeed in March or early April of 1917, and Olga and her husband, Nikolai Kulikovsky accompanied her, along with Sandro. Olga was at this time expecting her first child, who was born at Ai-Todor in August 1917. Olga and Col Kulikovsky remained with the Dowager Empress until early 1919, when they left the "mousetrap" the Crimea was becoming with the departure of the Germans - who, up till that point, had offered the Imperial family a measure of protection from the Reds.

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I thought that was Xenia. lol.

Ally, I can't see this too well. Who else is in the carriage?

I'm not sure that she drew the pictures.

Her penmanship as a child is better than mine has ever been. I wonder if she was "graded" on the letter, as part of her English instruction?

Eric, come on. Do you have a source, or don't you? Ally has asked. I have asked. A number of us are very interested to know from where you got this information that Olga Alexandrovna, generally a kind person, would have been so harsh as to call her sister a "monster". Without a source, it's just unfounded gossip.

I think the fall out came when Olga felt she was cheated out of the sale of the jewels of their mother while Ksenia got more.

I seriously doubt that. Olga was not materialistic at all, and in fact when she was asked about how both sisters were never given the appropriate sum by Queen Mary, she shrugged it off saying it was useless discussing it. She probably felt others were unjust, but I donĀ“t believe she would call her sister "a monster" just because she received bigger ammount of money.

Unless you can provide your source and direct quote.

So do I. That doesn't fit at all with the type of person we understand Olga Alexandrovna to have been.

I would love a comprehensive family tree of all royalty. In pull-out, poster size, if necessary.

Also: more Olga Alexandrovna.

I read Olga called her sister Ksenia monster behind her back.

Where did you read that?

I read that both sisters were called monsters during the whole Anna Anderson...thing, for not wanting to recognize their "niece".

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