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Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Emperor Pavel - life and tragic end
« on: August 30, 2013, 09:21:45 AM »
I read somewhere- Wikipedia, I Think, that Nicholas II-s Y haplogroup was predicted to be R1b. To my-(limited) -knowledge, R1b is more common in western Europe, than in the east- so it´s most likely, that Peter III was Pavel I-s father after all. Are  there any male descendants of the Saltykovs living today?
If there are-and they would be willing to test, that could answer some questions.



The Final Chapter / Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« on: August 30, 2013, 08:38:01 AM »
Thank you very much Woody for these interesting photos,
and the film-link.


Yes, it was strange. But we will never know.  I only hope now that the two remaining children get a descent funeral in St.Petersburg,
so this sad chapter gets a closure.


Maybe Tatiana in Eugene Onegin ? Didn´t they have a fancy-dress ball at Ilinskoye once, with Eugene Onegin-theme ?


Another mysterious twist to the story happened the 30th of July 1998. That morning it was found that the railings surrounding Larissa´s grave had been removed. Shortly afterwards some stone masons arrived to the grave and cleaned the headstone and the marble surrounds. Enquiries were made to the Shepway District Councel and to the Tudor family but noone knew who had given order about this work. This according to Sue Edwards in her little book "No resting place for a Romanov". She is a local historian from Kent. She wondered if it was the Russian Embassy or some other Russians who had ordered this work to be done. Quite a mystery isen´t it? But until this day noone seems to know more than twenty years ago. But somehow mysteries have their own beauty.
Stepan, do you think there is a possibility, that some autorithy DID open Larissas grave then in  1998 ?
To be able to take a sample from her remains, and check it against the DNA of the IF.
There were still one missing grand duchess at that time. And the only grand duchess the scientist agreed about, was GD Olga N.
Some people speculated that it could have been GD Tatiana who was missing.
So only to make  sure the missing GD wasn´t peacefully buried in England, instead of the Urals.


Helen A,that sounds very interesting !
I have already preordered the book at Amazon´s.
Looking forward reading it.


Well there IS a way, a DNA-test called Autosomal dna, where "they" can check relatives from all sides of a persons families, many generations back.
If they could check Larissas  dna  against a database were they have  a lot of members dna-registred, maybe there would be a match.

( I know this from personal experience, because I have done DNA-tests, and when I got the results I had 9 pages with -previously-unknown "cousins"! Then I got another
9 pages ! So I´m really busy every evening with "family" nowadays !
I am doing this for genealogy, with my cousins, because we are on a "hunt" for a couple of "missing" great great grandfathers !
Haven´t found them yet, but  a lot of people who are decendants  from  one of our  greatgrandfathers MATERNAL line-which I have never checked at all. And our common ancestors lived around 1650-1750  ! )

So, if one is lucky, there is a possibility.
(And there are DNA -forums which are especially dedicated to Nobility, Russian and Polish among them.)

But of course, there has to be a lot of people involved, church-and judicial   (spell?) authorities among them.


Maria Nicholaievna / Re: Maria photos III
« on: April 07, 2013, 02:19:57 PM »
Thank´s a lot for the link !

Has  there been any attempts to open her grave, and take samples from her remains for DNA-testing ?
That could be the only way to resolve the mystery.


The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Anna Anderson Footage
« on: March 09, 2013, 05:31:27 PM »
Welcome to the forum,
and thank´s a lot for this link.
I have never seen the whole  "film" before , only a bit.

Just wonder why noone ever recognised it was GD Maria on the photo they used as a comparision of the ears ?


Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Date of Founding of Romanov Dynasty
« on: February 22, 2013, 12:05:49 PM »
Has anyone ever made a movie about Alexander I and his mysterious "death"?

None that I can find.

It'll be next on my list of things. The fledgling filmmaker that I am!

Tsarfan, merging back onto the topic after our little detour there. What would you say is the single most significant date in Romanov history? Not any year necessarily (for the answer to that would likely be 1613 or 1917), but what date. I'm curious if multiple things happened on one, like Mikhail Feoderovich born and dying on July 12th.

There seems to have been a few odd occurrences connected to July 16/17th for example.

Well, didn´t Peter III die (was assasinated ? ) the 17 july,too.? ( new style)

And   IF   he wasn´t the father of emperor Paul ,as rumours suggests, then THAT was the end of the real Romanov dynasty.


Rulers Prior to Nicholas II / Re: Date of Founding of Romanov Dynasty
« on: February 21, 2013, 08:23:21 PM »
Interesting thoughts, TimM and Tsarfan.

Has there ever been any scientific  examination of the remains in St.Peter and St.Pauls Cathedral in St.P ?   I mean, now when there are DNA-tests available, it would be possible
to compare the suppposed remains of Alexander I, with his brother Nicholas I,  to see if there is a match, like they-the scientists- did with Nicholas II and his brother GD Georgij A.


The Tudors / Re: Richard III remains found & identified
« on: February 08, 2013, 10:33:10 PM »
Well  I was searching this forum and found a thread under The Final Chapter- Why does the Russian Orthodox Church chooses not to believe...
Maybe one of the moderators could remove  these last posts and put them under that thread instead ?

Thanks in advance.

The Tudors / Re: Richard III remains found & identified
« on: February 08, 2013, 06:14:25 PM »
it is a difficult question, indeed. But who has more to win in this particular case ?
Putin will be voted out of office some day, but the ROC seems to gain more and more influence in the russian
society nowadays.  

It´s an interesting  thing, this "revival" of old Russia.I only wonder what ordinary russians really think about it.

As You mentioned, the population  declines all the time, not only by death, but also emigration-there seems to be a big brain-drain
going on. I myself can see that, where I live, -getting more russian-speaking neighbours every year.
And they are  the younger generation, probably under 40-most of them.


The Tudors / Re: Richard III remains found & identified
« on: February 08, 2013, 02:09:22 PM »
You are right, Tsarfan,

but there is also the difference between the churches. I don´t think the Church of England or the Roman Catholic Church are disagreeing
with these recent findings-( Richard III,)  -BUT  -the ROC is STILL  hesitating about the Romanov remains. And unfortenately
they seem to go on with this "hesitation" in eternity.
(which partly  helps the "conspiration -theorist" go on forever too, at least some of them )

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