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Rasputin / Re: Rasputin claimant
« on: November 09, 2008, 04:30:15 PM »
I think half of Russia can claim Rasputin blood line base on crazy looks and horrible beard.

Forum Announcements / Re: Last national of Russian Empire dies in Paris
« on: November 09, 2008, 04:24:16 PM »
I know some folks, who actually older than Andrey, but example of Andrey Shmeman was very unique, he until 2004 was a subject of Russian Empire, by receiving Passport from President Putin, he got his Russian Federation citizenship.

Forum Announcements / Last national of Russian Empire dies in Paris
« on: November 09, 2008, 04:18:21 PM »
Russia’s oldest ‘first-wave’ emigrant has died in Paris after a long fight against illness. Andrey Shmeman, who was 88, was among those who fled during the country’s civil war after the October Revolution of 1917.

He spent most of his life as a military instructor, who raised Russian youth abroad in the tradition of the Motherland’s army officers as they had been before 1917.

He was head of the Association of Emperor Nicholas II Cadets and a member of the Russian Royal Guards Association. He carefully preserved the traditions of tsarist Russia’s officers and collected unique relics and documents on the history of the country’s emigration.

Shmeman was one of two twin brothers born on September 13, 1921, in Tallinn (in those years called Revel) in Estonia.

Their father, Dmitry, had been an officer with the Russian Life Guards Semyonovsky regiment until the October Revolution. That was one of the two oldest regiments in Russia, set up by the young tsar Peter the Great.

In 1929 the Shmemans emigrated to France. In 1930 Andrey was sent to Emperor Nicholas II's Cadet Corps in Versailles and graduated in 1939.

Instructors in that corps were selected among emigrant officers of the tsarist Russian Army. They inculcated the trademark Russian officers' intelligence and love for their remote but not lost Motherland into their minds.

Neither Andrey nor his parents ever applied for French citizenship. He lived with a so-called Nansen Passport, a temporary identity card for stateless refugees.

The passports were introduced by the League of Nations in 1922 on the basis of the Geneva Agreements. But in 2004, then Russian president, Vladimir Putin, handed a Russian passport to Shmeman and thanked him for helping maintain Russian national traditions.


Forum Announcements / Re: Tsar Nicholas II and Royal Family Rehabliitated
« on: October 01, 2008, 10:03:12 PM »
The rather tardy respect for Lenin's expressed preferences for his burial is a separate issue. The rehabilitation of the family is a legal acknowledgement that they should not have been killed by the Bolsheviks.
What we suggesting over here, about next steps for Russians to clean up the mess that commies put entire country in to.
About rehabilitation its more than acknowledgment, we are talking about Russian government publicly announced that its condemn entire direction taken by Bolsheviks and soviet rulers. For my opinion, it is first major milestone after fall of the Soviet Union.

Forum Announcements / Re: Tsar Nicholas II and Royal Family Rehabliitated
« on: October 01, 2008, 04:05:38 PM »
To remove Lenin? Hmmm...I don´t think that´s going to happen... He´s a symbol of Russia as well as the Romanovs.
Why not? Stalin was a symbol, he was removed from mausoleum, Leningrad was renamed to its original name, communists now weird party of crazy old people. I don’t think Russia has any longer attachment to the mummy, what use to called Lenin, considering its only less than 10% remaining of him. I am just thinking this is natural evolution.
Remember - Russians for very long time considered murder of Romanov family justified, they even build up moral model about it, that because of the death of entire Romanov family, White Army and Triple Entente no longer had symbol to fight for, so killing every single Romanov was “good deal”, in order to save life of “innocent” solders of Red Army.

Forum Announcements / Re: Tsar Nicholas II and Royal Family Rehabliitated
« on: October 01, 2008, 12:29:44 PM »
I believe now probably good time, to remove Lenin from Red square

Forum Announcements / Russia exonerates Tsar Nicholas II
« on: October 01, 2008, 12:26:51 PM »
Also, nice article by Adrian Blomfield  Telegraph UK reporter.
Original can be found here:

The Russian supreme court has ruled that the country's last tsar and his family must be recognised as victims of Soviet repression 90 years after they were executed by a Bolshevik firing squad.

In an unexpected ruling, the court in Moscow declared that Nicholas II and the royal family had been killed illegally and are entitled to legal rehabilitation by the state.
The decision brings to a close a decade-long campaign by the tsar's descendants to force the state to admit culpability for what many Russians regard as the single most horrific political crime of the 20th century.
It also represents a symbolic end to Russia's often tortured process of addressing the repressions of the Soviet era.
Since the collapse of Communism, over four million Russians who were executed or jailed in gulags for political reasons have been formally exonerated and declared victims of repression, a process known in Russia as rehabilitation.
But state prosecutors, judges and even the supreme court itself, in an earlier ruling, refused to make the same gesture to the tsar and his family.
Saying that no official death warrants had ever been found, they claimed it was possible that the deaths were unilaterally carried out by the Ural regional soviet without reference to the Bolshevik high command. Their deaths were therefore characterized as murder rather than state-sanctioned executions.
Nicholas, his wife and five children, along with four servants, were shot by a firing squad in Yekaterinburg in July 1918 as the White Army advanced towards the city at the height of the Russian civil war.
Most historians say there is enough evidence to show that the executions were carried out on the orders of Lenin, who is still widely revered in Russia.
Since 2006, a series of courts have ruled against petitions filed by Grand Princess Maria Vladimirovna, one of several claimants to the Russian throne. Given the previous rebuffs, few members of the Romanov family expected a positive ruling today. In July, Prince Dmitry, one of the family's most senior members, predicted that Russia's last tsar was as likely to be rehabilitated as the apostle Peter, who is traditionally believed to have been crucified upside down by the Romans.
Yesterday, however, the Romanovs were rejoicing.
"The protracted rehabilitation process has come to a successful end," said German Lukyanov, the lawyer who filed the suit on behalf of Grand Princess Maria, who lives in Spain.
"Justice has triumphed. It has proved that all victims of the repressions should be rehabilitated."
But he said that the ruling would not lead to any claims for either the restitution of the monarchy in Russia or the restoration of royal properties seized by the Bolsheviks.

The Alexander Palace / Re: high radon level in area
« on: September 05, 2008, 10:02:08 AM »
Actually radon was there all the time, even before Naval Research Institute. I grew up myself in this area, and spent in vicinity of the palace  more time, than most of you all combine. I release this post not to alarm you about harm, because some of you leave in similar condition:

but raise the question, about Romanov family and servants health possibility, if radon effected anyhow some illnesses, they blamed on tuberculosis everything, but I think some possibility could be long cancer, direct result of the exposure to radon.

Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: War Damage of Tsarskoe Selo and Peterhof
« on: September 03, 2008, 12:20:00 PM »
Bob, for my understanding German Archives post WWII open for public. If someone good enough in German language, he/she can do research and retrieve most of the documentation and photos related to Alexander Palace and Catherine Palace even online, some video archives available also online for free.

The Alexander Palace / Re: high radon level in area
« on: September 02, 2008, 12:04:46 PM »
How exactly does this affect Tsarskoe Selo, let alone the AP then? Are visitors in danger from the radon? What do you mean by a "secret map"?

Radon is radioactive gas, but usually people getting affected by it, who has constant exposure - residents and employees, problems can be from birth defects to terminal illness. "Secret map" exist because Russian government prefer not disclose this type of information, but measurements has been taken some time during 60th or 70th last century, and to my knowledge during the 90th.

The Alexander Palace / high radon level in area
« on: September 01, 2008, 05:32:21 AM »
Some time ago, I've heard about existence of the secret map covering Alexander Palace grounds with very high level of radon. I found confirmation of the theory in report done by Finnish Ministry of the Environment, original report can be found at:

Here some cut out from it:

Natural (geological) radiation is rather high in many areas of St. Petersburg; about 75 % of radiation (mainly radon) originating from the natural sources. In order to protect the population from this natural radiation the program "Radon – St. Petersburg" was launched in 1996 with studies on radon-based radiation of the territory and buildings. Studies showed that buildings in two districts – Pushkinsky and Krasnoselsky – have high radon concentrations. Hazardous buildings were identified also in the towns of Krasnoe Selo, Pushkin, Pavlovsk, and Tsarskoye Selo.

If Putin would go to the AP and kiss the door then maybe things would happen.     Russians  like to follow the leader.  [I don't mean that as a criticism.]

Actually Douglas, I agree with you on this one 100%, I think if some one or group of people, would bring attention of Putin or Medvedev to this matter, it could become large hit, especially because of the cool relations between West and Russia, if some one remember letter from Samantha Smith, it could be achieved the same effect. For Russian Government today is very important, they are listening West on some matters, and can listen and carry on with dialog.

Robert, excellent parallel about interest in Lenin and Stalin vs NII and his family. We can see today line to Lenin mausoleum, just to see Lenin's corps (how disgusting for my taste). People in general, like to see conforming attractions with their life style and level of education. For example, folks who visiting France usually go to Versailles and only few extend to Château Vaux le Vicomte and Fontainebleau (last one my favorite, I like it much much more than Versailles).

Sian, I would agree with Robert about it, in Yekaterinburg not much attractions, we don't have there seven-eleven and  Century theater - to amuse locals, so people go to religious gathering, regardless what this all about (please don't kick me severely for this one, my sister lives in Yekaterinburg).

sckkr, super idea, one problem to get approval from Tsarskoye Selo GMZ - title owner of the building, I seriously doubt who ever will be decision maker, will pass it through like that, because in this case exact amount of restoration will be available for public with all consequences.

Robert, my example with Marie Antoinette not to draw complete analogy with Nicholas and Alexandra, but to show status of two palaces in people mind from relative time factor.
As for your friends in Russia, they are partially right, but we have to remember, Russian Orthodox church have folks marching every year from St. Petersburg to Yekaterinburg to commemorate murder of Nicholas II and his family, some of them religious fanatics, but quite few very sincere in there aspiration.

Vladimir, stress becoming, luckily process is not finished, and in my case in Russia

Douglas, I don't think analogy about US President is correct, I think would be better - Marie Antoinette in Louvre vs Versailles

Also, I would be happy find out details about blue material. I would speculate - its plastic (polyethylene) coating over aluminum, but we will see.

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