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Messages - Andrei Beanov

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The Final Chapter / Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« on: August 20, 2013, 02:06:45 AM »
Back in the 90's before "The church on the blood" was erected there was even a plan to build a cathedral modelled after Ipatiev house ( see photo below).
I dont know why it was scrapped - perhaps it was seen as "bad taste" ??

The Final Chapter / Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« on: August 20, 2013, 01:50:59 AM »
The first & last photo you posted was taken much earlier when the house was the "Museum to the Revolution" in the 1920/30's.
Here's some more demolition era photos.I've seen others but I dont have copies of them.


The Final Chapter / Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« on: August 20, 2013, 01:41:58 AM »
Yes , was not 1 night but 3 days at least from what I heard.
There are other photos around of cranes with wrecking balls etc and the of the site when the fence was going up and the site after cleanup.
It's kind of ironic that , that was the second fence erected around the site.........
Locals "souveniured" bits of the house too , bricks , timber ,cornices , stair balistrades , fireplace etc etc , some of it is in the museums. Who knows how much was "stolen" over the years and still in private possession.

The Final Chapter / Help req'd to Identify men in photo
« on: June 13, 2013, 02:47:50 AM »
I need some help to identify the men in this photo , I know Peter Ermakov is far right at front row but not the rest.
It was evidently taken at Porosenkov-log in 1918 . The man on far left looks out of place ??
I am assuming they are the Urals Regional Cheka committee.......?

The Final Chapter / Re: Question about ipatev house's plan
« on: May 27, 2013, 02:36:43 AM »
I was looking on Google Earth and the side road is gone but was originally located where the wooden memorial is now located ? Popov house is gone ? But there is an old looking building next door ( current Real Estate office ).
I read somewhere that the Ipatiev house had an outside well and that the Church on the Blood is built over the well ? Have I got my bearings wrong ?

The Final Chapter / Re: Sokolov box
« on: May 27, 2013, 02:28:47 AM »
Yes I'm confused - I've read of one which contained "the finger" & Botkins false teeth etc , and another which was shown to either Olga or Xenia ( not sure which ) and she refused to look inside......So which one was in the church wall ? And what happened to the other ?

I thought that 'locals' found the bodies and buried them , a young lad marked a tree near the location.

The Final Chapter / Re: Question about ipatev house's plan
« on: March 27, 2013, 02:05:09 AM »
Not really related - but - Ipatiev house appears in photos on the 'low' side of the road and the 'Church on the blood' looks on the high side of the it's not built on the exact location , am I correct.????

The Final Chapter / Yurovsky questions
« on: March 24, 2013, 06:39:36 AM »
I have a few questions about Yurovsky.

1. Some books mention that on the final night he told Botkin that they were going to take a photo of the family when they went downstairs and for the family to prepare etc. Other accounts make no mention of this.
The middle of the night seems a strange time for photos ??? Is this just a myth ?

2. If Yurovsky didn't take any photos at all , how was he to prove to his bosses Lenin / Sverdlov that the "deed was done" ? I think he sent them a telegram yes ? Did they just trust him enough to assume he told them the truth ?
Wouldn't they want more concrete proof ?

3. Does anyone think there were photos taken at Yetkaturinburg which have not surfaced publically , but are kept secretly in Kremlin archives. I would think that if they exist , it would probably be embarrassing for past or present russian
governments to release them ?


The Final Chapter / Re: Captivity photo's
« on: March 14, 2013, 02:16:39 AM »
My reason for asking is that , quite some years ago when I was a child I saw some "photostats" of photos as they were called back then (early type of "photocopy" I suppose) . I remember my father calling them "gestetners" ---- I think this is name of the brand of machine which made the "photosats".....anyway.....there were 4 or 5 really poor photos of the IF . I dont know what happen to them as my father is dec'd 15 years ago . I have never seen them again in any books or on the internet , but obviously I know they exist. The only one which sticks in my mind is the one I asked about in the above post of skinny Romanov sister - I cannot remember what the other photos were at all.....From comparing my memory with what I've seen of existing photos , it was Olga or Tatiana
My guess is the original photos are in some 'private collection' somewhere or in possession of IF relatives........makes me wonder how many other photos are hidden away and not publically available but would be interesting to see.

The Final Chapter / Re: Captivity photo's
« on: March 12, 2013, 03:19:54 AM »
Can someone post the "swingset" photos , as I don't see them.....links are all dead.

Also I'm looking for some photos that my father told me about of Olga ( and possibly other sisters ? ) taken 'late in captivity' showing them very skinny - having lost a lot of weight . I heard about them pre-internet times but have never seen them in any books or online....maybe were printed in" national geographic" or "time" style magazines or similar ? but I'm not totally sure about this... ???


The Final Chapter / Question on Family Album
« on: March 06, 2013, 12:16:40 AM »
I have a question for the experts here :

There are 2 photos - No.1 & No.3 in Album 3 of the Beinecke collection at Yale. These are often called " Captivity Photos " - showing Tsarina in wheelchair & family in garden at AP.
Why are these photos in this album if the 6 albums were supposedly given to a "close friend" by the Tsarina before any 'captivity' or house arrest ???

Maybe I've missed something here ??


Thanks in Advance

The Final Chapter / Sokolov box
« on: March 06, 2013, 12:04:22 AM »
I have a question : The "Sokolov Box" contents were hidden in a RO church for quite some years , then "re-discovered" recently . Was it ever examined scientifically or have the RO church refused ?
I cannot seem to find the answer.

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