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Hehe, Linnea ...  :)

I've been interested in Bavarian and Austrian royalty for over ten years (now I'm 21 ...). I simply adore the Dukes in Bavaria.

Best wishes

Marie  ;)

French Royals / Re: Sophie, Duchess d'Alencon
« on: September 12, 2005, 05:12:34 PM »

could you please tell me where you found this lovely drawing of Sophie as a child?
Do you have drawings of Sophie's siblings, too?

Thanks, Marie Charlotte


In my books I could only find the hint that Empress Elisabeth and no one else was Elisabeth Valérie's godmother. The Bavarian Dukes usually have had only one godmother or - father. Sophie's godmother for example was Marie José's mother Queen Adelheid and Marie Gabrielle's godmother was Queen Marie of Bavaria, who was substituted by another Marie (Marie, Queen of Neaples) at the baptism.
Even Elisabeth Valérie's cousin Luitpold in Bavaria, youngest son of Mapperl, had one godfather, Luitpold of Bavaria.

Archduke Joseph and his wife Clothilde were very interested in Hungarian gypsies. Joseph was even known as a famous "gypsy researcher" and studied the so-called gypsy writing, their letters, etc.

BTW: Are there any pics of Clothilde's sister Amalie (1848-1894), wife of Max Emanuel (Mapperl), Duke in Bavaria?

Does anyone have pics of Auguste Victoria's mother Maria Theresia of Bourbon and the Two Sicilies, called Mädi?
Maybe there's even a pic of Mädi and her mother Mathilde, Countess of Trani (called Spatz and sister of Empress Elisabeth of Austria) ???

Thanks ...

The Habsburgs / Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« on: September 11, 2005, 06:25:33 AM »
Archduchess Marie was a very lively, sporty young woman. Nevertheless she spent the time before her death in a sanatorium in Innsbruck and died aged 35.

The following members of Marie Valérie's family are buried in Sindelburg near Wallsee, Lower Austria.

Marie Valérie (1868-1924)
Franz Salvator (1866-1939)
Franz Carl Salvator (1893-1918)
Theodor Salvator (1899-1978)
Maria Theresia von Waldburg-Zeil (1901-1967)
Marie Elisabeth (1901-1936)

Anna Amélie von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1936-1966)
Hedwig von Lichem-Löwenburg (1938-2000)
(wives of Archduke Franz Salvator, born 1927, grandson of Marie Valérie and Franz Salvator)

I visited the Residenz in Munich yesterday. I heard that after WW II only 50m² were still covered, the rest was destroyed.

The rooms are quite empty, most of the furniture were brought to Munich from other castles, because the original ones were also destroyed. Nevertheless, there are a lot of wonderful portraits.
To sum up, the rooms look extremely artificial after the restoration.

I quite like the so-called "Allerheiligenhofkirche" in the northern (?) part of the Residenz. This church was also destroyed, but is now open to the public again. Today it isn't a church anymore, but a place for public events.
Empress Elisabeth of Austria's sisters Marie (Queen of Neaples) and Mathilde (Trani) married in the Allerheiligenhofkirche in the 19. century.

Marie Charlotte

The Wittlesbachs / Re: House of Wittelsbach
« on: July 30, 2005, 09:01:44 AM »
Franz Xaver Winterhalter lived 1805-1873 and Princess Amalie of Bavaria 1801-1877.

Winterhalter started painting 1828 in Karlsruhe and Leopold of Baden appointed him "Hofmaler".

Princess Amalie married Johann of Saxony in 1822. So if Amalie was the young lady on the portrait, Winterhalter must have painted it before 1822. But in 1822 Winterhalter was only 17 years old.
Result: This picture can't show Amalie.

BTW, the famous painter Joseph Karl Stieler was the one who created almost all portraits of the Bavarian Royal family.
AND: I have seen a lot of portraits of the Bavarian Princesses and I can't see any similarity.

The Wittlesbachs / Re: House of Wittelsbach
« on: May 10, 2005, 11:49:55 AM »
King Franz II. of Neaples didn't commit suicide. He suffered from diabetis.

Sophie Charlotte, Duchess of Alencon, was very happy with her husband in the first years of her marriage. He has always been very good to her. For example he took her back after she had this sexual affair to Dr. Glaser from Graz and caused a scandal.

Iberian Royal Families / Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« on: May 03, 2005, 03:05:37 AM »
Dear Grand Duke,

I'm sorry, here they are:

Marie Therese (1855-1944), married to Karl Ludwig, Archduke of Austria

Marie José (1857-1943), married to Carl Theodor, Duke in Bavaria

Maria Anna (1861-1942) married to Guillaume IV, Grand Duke of Luxembourg

Maria Antonia (1862-1959), married to Robert, Duke of Parma and Empress Zita's mother

Thanks for the picture of Marie José. I have a postcard of it.

Marie Charlotte

Iberian Royal Families / Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« on: May 02, 2005, 02:11:55 PM »
I'm searching for picture's of

- Marie Therese, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Marie José, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Maria Anna, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Maria Antonia, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

I know their pictures on and

Thanks ...

Marie Charlotte

The Wittlesbachs / Re: House of Wittelsbach
« on: May 02, 2005, 01:43:23 PM »
No one really knows ... I talked to the Reichsgraf of Kageneck, son of Sophie Charlotte's granddaughter Elisabeth von Bayern, and he didn't have much information about Dr. Glaser.

Greetings, Marie Charlotte

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