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The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Konstantinovich

« on: December 05, 2006, 02:02:15 AM »

That's like this. He was under strong influence of his mother GDss Alexandra, he loved her much and saw his father broke Alexandra's heart having a lover and children from that lover. Moreover his eldest brother GD Nikolay K. got tangled into a very dirty and mysterious robbery becouse of a woman, who had turned Nikolay's head completely. And probably GDss Alexandra ( devastated by the scandal around her eldest son )
instilled into Dmitriy's mind that many women were just man-eaters. That did not mean that Dmitriy rushed away from any woman but he definitely looked shy on them and trusted only those who were his afmily circle.

Yes, you are right. All of this happening in his family it must have left a deep impact on him!

Daniela

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Carlows, descd. of GDss Ekaterina Mikhailovna and Duke of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz

« on: December 05, 2006, 01:54:25 AM »

I meant Duke Georg and his first wife Irina Raevskaya. Irina's mother was Princess Maria Grigorjewna Gagarine, so she was of noble birth. What about her father Michael Nikolajewitch Rajewsky, was he of noble birth to?

Daniela

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The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Konstantinovich

« on: December 04, 2006, 03:54:30 AM »

In the tread on The Counts of Carlow, there was mentioned also GD Dimitri as being "a woman hater". Woman hater, like he didn't like to be in woman company at all or he had bad experience with some femile person?

Daniela

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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Oranienbaum, Palace and Pavillions

« on: December 04, 2006, 02:11:23 AM »

Oh, I see.

Thanks, Svetabel.

Daniela

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Carlows, descd. of GDss Ekaterina Mikhailovna and Duke of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz

« on: December 04, 2006, 02:06:02 AM »

I see, thank you Svetabel!

Can someone post here, some photos of Duke Georg Alexander zu Mecklenburg, Count von Carlow and his first wife and their children or adittional info on them?

Thanks in advance.

daniela

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The Hohenzollern / Re: The Kings of Saxony in XVIII-end XIX cent.

« on: November 30, 2006, 06:14:56 AM »

Frederick Augustus II, King of Saxony, (Friedrich August Albert Maria Clemens Joseph Vincenz Aloys Nepomuk Johann Baptista Nikolaus Raphael Peter Xaver Franz de Paula Veneantius) (May 18, 1797 – August 9, 1854) became king of Saxony in 1836. Son of Maximilian, Prince of Saxony and Princess Caroline of Bourbon-Parma.
On September 26, 1819 Frederick Augustus II married Archduchess Caroline of Austria, daughter of Emperor Francis I of Austria. Following her death, on April 24, 1833 he married Princess Marie Anne Leopoldine of Bavaria.
There were no children of either marriage. He was succeeded by his brother, Johann I.
In 1849 revolutionary disturbances broke out in the Kingdom, forcing Frederick Augustus to flee to Königstein fortress. The May Uprising was crushed by Saxon and Prussian troops and Frederick was able to return after only a few days.

From Wikipedia, of course.

P.S.: Does someone knows something else on them?

Daniela

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The Habsburgs / Re: Mistresses and illegetimate children of Emperor Franz Josef

« on: November 30, 2006, 05:59:09 AM »

Dear Britt.25

It is well known and documented that certain Habsburgs had illegitimate children, you are right about Charles V, who was the father of "Jeromin" later called "Don Juan de Austria" There were other members of the family weather Emperors or family members who had illegitimate children.

I don't pretend to be a moralist but the "AEIOU tu Felix Austriae Nube" was partly responsible in certain cases to extra marital relationships. One must take into account that an Emperor, at the time, had lots of rights and also obligations. Nonetheless they did not have the right to marry "because they were in love". They were married because of political convenience. Very often they had no choice. If it worked and after their wedding they fell in love they were lucky. If not... some had extra marital relationships. Most of them very discrete. I don’t want to enter into what other royal families did or did not do with respect to extra marital relationships in Europe. As a person who has studied the Habsburgs with certain depth I can say that extramarital relationships with the Habsburgs where much less frequent than wit other families in Europe.

In the case Kaiser Franz Joseph I sincerely do not think he had illegitimate children or extra marital relationships. Not him.  Wrong time wrong gosyp.

Hello, CFH Mexico!

I would like to know your opinion about relationship between Kaiser Franz Joseph and Fräulein Katharina Schratt?

Daniela

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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Oranienbaum, Palace and Pavillions

« on: November 30, 2006, 05:46:12 AM »

Thanks, Svetabel!

So, the descendants of GD Ekaterina, todays Mecklenburg Dukes, they are the rightful owners, right?

Daniela

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Carlows, descd. of GDss Ekaterina Mikhailovna and Duke of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz

« on: November 30, 2006, 05:42:57 AM »

Karl Mikhail was Duke not Grand Duke  aka Duke Mikhail Georgievich of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz.

Sorry  . There are so many of them that sometimes you just can make a mistake.

Possibly he was a sort of a bachelor like GD Dmitriy Konstantinovich happy to be a good uncle to his nieces and nephews.

Yes, it can be a good reason.
But, I don't know, well since you mentioned GD Dimitri, is there perhaps possible that GD D and D KM were homosexual? Is there in those Russian books on the Romanovs, you mentioned something written about this posibility? I'm asking this here because unfortunatly I don't have acces to many books on the metter, so, please, don't get me wrong.

Daniela
 

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Carlows, descd. of GDss Ekaterina Mikhailovna and Duke of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz

« on: November 30, 2006, 01:57:36 AM »

Since I have recently made a connection between The counts of Carlow and the magnificant palace Oranienbaum, I would like to ask how come that GD Karl Mihail didn't married. Was he perhaps linked to some princess or not at all?

Daniela

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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Oranienbaum, Palace and Pavillions

« on: November 30, 2006, 01:47:21 AM »

Thanks, Svetabel.

Did GD Georg and his wife The countess of Carlow, nee Natalia Vanljarskaya lived in Oranienbaum?

Daniela

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Tsarskoe Selo Palaces / Re: Oranienbaum, Palace and Pavillions

« on: November 27, 2006, 06:15:05 AM »

Who occupied this palace in the second part of the 19th century till the revolution?

Daniela

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Nikolaivichi

« on: November 18, 2006, 02:40:39 PM »

She was CHISLOVA, not Choslova . I'll try to dig out her photo from the books on the Romanovs.

Thanks for correcting me.

And thank you so very much for the photo. She looks like a very determinate woman and kind of pretty.

Daniela

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Nikolaivichi

« on: November 17, 2006, 01:12:51 AM »

Still no images of Catherine Choslova?

Daniela

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The Hohenzollern / Re: Kaspar Hauser and the Grand Dukes of Baden

« on: November 16, 2006, 02:10:00 AM »

Luise Karoline Geyer von Geyersberg

This is a only image I found on the net. Please, post some other!

Daniela