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Balkan Royal Families / Re: Tzar Ferdinand of Bulgaria and his family
« on: February 18, 2018, 06:28:44 AM »
Hochzeitsreigen op. 453 (waltz for Maria Luisa)

A Reigen (round dance) in name only, apparently. Type "Reigen" into YouTube and you get an Austrian medieval dance troupe dancing to the Pippi Longstocking song :-): BTW I think Pippi claiming her father was "the gay tsar of Bulgaria" would have worked just as good in these PC times as the original "negro king in the South Seas".

Having Fun! / Re: Whom would you cast for an "Ella" movie
« on: February 18, 2018, 05:17:52 AM »
Ah! It’s especially at times like this I wish I knew Russian! Did the director reveal who they will be portraying?

You get a good translation with Google Translate:

О чем-то мы спорили. Например, как преподнести тему ее отношения к Распутину. Там была нравственная дилемма. С одной стороны, она простила убийц мужа, но при этом считала, что убийство Распутина оправданно. И из-за этого у нее произошла ссора с сестрой, императрицей Александрой Федоровной.
We argued about something. For example, how to present the topic of her relationship to Rasputin. There was a moral dilemma. On the one hand, she forgave her husband's murderers, but at the same time she believed that Rasputin's murder was justified. And because of this, she had a quarrel with her sister, Empress Alexandra Feodorovna.


- Вы не житие снимаете…

Алексей Барыкин: Да, совершенно верно. Мы делаем историю живого человека. И естественно, что он в чем-то несовершенен. И так ее добродетели настолько очевидны. Хотя не исключено, что тему Распутина я не буду поднимать.
You are not filming a vita / hagiography.....

Alexei Barykin: Yes, that's right. We make a story of a living person. And it is natural that she is in something imperfect. And so her virtues are so obvious. Although it is possible that I will not raise the topic of Rasputin.

- Когда изучали материалы, что вас поразило?

Алексей Барыкин: Было несколько открытий. Само по себе интересно царское окружение, семья великих князей. И впервые я серьезно столкнулся с дискуссией о муже Елизаветы Федоровны, Сергее Александровиче.

С одной стороны, это человек, которого много лет историки представляли исчадием ада. И тут вдруг противоположная точка зрения, что это был святейший человек, который строил храмы и причащался трижды в неделю. И тоже много фактов приводят, это подтверждающих. Он основал Палестинское общество. Столько храмов им было построено на Святой земле!
- When you studied the materials, what amazed you?

Alexei Barykin: There were several discoveries. In itself, the royal environment, the family of the grand dukes, is interesting. And for the first time I was seriously confronted with a discussion about the husband of Elizabeth Feodorovna, Sergey Alexandrovich.

On the one hand, this is a person who for many years historians have been represented as the descent of hell. And then suddenly the opposite view that it was the most holy man who built the temples and communed three times a week. And too many facts lead, it confirming. He founded the Palestinian Society. So many churches they were built in the Holy Land!

Nothing wrong with a movie with a strong religious focus, but it sounds like it's gonna be very tame and un-controversial, being filmed in tight co-operation with the church hierarchy and avoiding all problematic issues.

The Danish Royal Family / Re: Queen Margarethe II & Prince Henrik
« on: February 14, 2018, 05:16:09 AM »
Prince Henrik died shortly before midnight on Tuesday the 13th of February, 83 years old, at Fredensborg Palace. The funeral will take place in the palace chapel of Christiansborg Palace on Tuesday the 20th of February, where his closed coffin will be on lit de parade during the weekend and on Monday. In accordance with his wishes he will not be buried in Roskilde Cathedral's royal necropolis, where his wife eventually will be buried, but half of his ashes will be scattered in Danish waters and the other half buried in an urn in the gardens of Fredensborg Palace.

The word the Danes use in their epitaphs of him is sjov*, as in en sjov mand, a fun / funny man.
* Pronounced [ɕɒwˀ], with a Russian-style shcha (щ - voiceless alveolo-palatal fricative), then a typically Danish and English semi-diphtongized vowel and a glottal stop (Danish stød, also typical of Cockney, Estuary and Australian English) at the end.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: The "suitability" of royal wives
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:47:48 AM »
You can see it as an extension of the hereditary principle: Why should the criteria for a monarch's spouse and monarch's mother be qualifications-based when the office of monarch itself wasn't?

And the reality of a media monarchy where PR played an important role was relatively new in AF's time. Direct, personal relationships with the court nobility had always played an important role, also for the consorts. But consorts who were too adept at this (e.g. Catherine the Great) were seen as a potential threat to their husbands (often in favour of their sons, though) and the whole patriarchical order of society.

Active Christian faith and piety was perhaps the staple universal criterion of suitability in a wider context of Christian Europe, because it ensured:
- selflessness and self-sacrifice
- loyalty to the status quo
- pre-marital chastity and marital fidelity
- charitability that would endear the spouse and the monarchy to the population
- focus on the welfare of subjects of all estates and classes and not just the narrow court circles

I'm excited about the news about a Norwegian TV series about Crown Princess Märtha's exile in the US during WW2, including her close relationship with President Roosevelt!

Filming will start this autumn and the series will air on NRK in 2020. The production tema has spent six years researching whether Märtha had an affair with Roosevelt. She was anyways the person he spent the most time with / upon during the entire WW2!

The series is called "Alt for Norge" - All / everything for Norway (the mottos of her father-in-law, her husband and her son). I'm very much looking forward to a series featuring a relationship between a Norwegian royal and a patrician Knickerbocker!

Having Fun! / Re: Romanov story
« on: February 10, 2018, 08:07:19 AM »
Don't forget that Czech and Russian are mutually intelligible on the same level as English and German and English and French, so there will be many similar words, even though they don't understand each other's sentences. Especially basic nouns which have to do with nature and stuff in a forest setting (osa / osʲ = axe etc.).
See this post about romantic inter-Slavic intelligibility:

Having Fun! / Re: Romanov story
« on: February 09, 2018, 06:41:18 PM »
The book "Woodcraft" by EH Kreps written in 1919 is on both the Guttenberg press and for those who want to know about building a log cabin, fire starting ect.

100 years later we have bushcraft Youtube videos for that purpose!

Watching someone build something from scratch with their bare hands is also quite nice for meditation :-) (Check out this guy, he is a Stone Age god:

You can almost never determine Jewish origins from a surname. While some names are "often" associated with Jewish families,  the same names were also used by non Jews. I've been doing Jewish genealogical research for years now.

Of course it depends on the name. But when a Russian (or Frenchman, American etc.) has a German-sounding name there are usually either German or Jewish ancestors lurking in the background. Of course the family might have converted from Judaism. Some names are equally common among Germans and Jews, like Schwartz, Weiss, Braun etc. Some ornamental surnames like Zederbaum / Tsiderbaum are uniquely Jewish, while other, similar ornamental surnames, like Cedergren (Cedar Branch) or Cederlöf (Cedar Leaf) are typical of Swedes (and thus also Finland Swedes), another culture where ornamental surnames are common. They might even share the surname in different forms: Weinberg / Vaynberg (Jewish) and Wiinberg (Swedish), both meaning "wine hill / vineyard". Odd freaks of genealogy can of course happen, but my impression from a lot of historical reading and occassional genealogical digging is that you usually can tell pretty well, at least from the ornamental or geographical (Berlin, Warschauer, Frankfurter, Kissinger, Weil etc. - typically Jewish) surnames. Occupational surnames (Schneider, Schindler, Wagner etc.) and descriptive names (Schwartz, Braun, Weiss etc.) are trickier.

Having Fun! / Re: Swole corps des pages - literally
« on: February 06, 2018, 11:29:52 AM »
More yummy corps des pages, or rather cute air cadets, in a homoerotic hommage parody that evidently has caused a national outrage and then a massive support wave in Russia (read the text below video):

The massive show of support (among them tankers dancing their own hommage: is a sign that Russia's young are not OK with Putin's use of homophobia as a political tool.

Liberal Novaya Gazeta headlines the news with rewriting the Russian pop song Танцуй, пока молодой, мальчик - Dance while you are young, boy as Танцуй, пока молодой, летчик -  Dance while you are young, airman.

A mentally-ill Bolshevik commander, Mikhail Tsiderbaum-Kedrov (only recently released from a mad house) ordered several hundred young officers and cadets of the remaining young White Russian officers to be put on a barge in the White Sea. The barge was then blown up. All the young men died.

Judging from his Russian Wikipedia article, which can be translated with Google Translate, he wasn't recently released from a mad house, but rather a longterm and dedicated revolutionary and Chekist, who in March 1920 "was appointed a member of a special government commission to investigate the atrocities of the interventionists and Whiteguards in the North. Arriving on the Solovetsky Islands, Kedrov liquidated the Solovetsky Monastery, exiling its leadership." Whether this massacre was part of that liquidation or not I have no idea.

The English version mentions his cruelty and the barge incident.

I wonder if he was of Jewish ancestry, as the name Tsiderbaum (Cedar Tree) is typically Jewish / Jiddish and Kedrov (= of Cedars) the Russian equivalent?

Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 06, 2018, 10:25:53 AM »
I shall be walking the Nijmegen Marches.

Marching music suggestions in Het Land van Maas en Waal:
Jan Klaassen was trompetter:, allegedly dead in the Battle of Mookerheyde outside Nijmegen.

Having Fun! / Re: Romanov story
« on: January 26, 2018, 03:02:21 PM »
Any outdoorsman will tell you that you always boil water from ponds, rivers ect. in the wild no matter how clear the stream looks the water will in a lot of cases give you some thing you don't want.

In Norway, a country of dedicated outdoorsmen and cabin owners, this (boiling the water) is not common and you very seldom hear about people getting sick from polluted water in the outdoors. Food poisoning from restaurants is much more common. Perhaps it's because of our chilly temperatures, even in summer.

Actually, I experienced my father and my brother getting violently sick once after a biking trip in the mountains. Either because they had drunk water directly from melting snow in an area with many rodents (never a good idea) - indeed the infamously suicidal Norwegian lemmings -  or because they had drunk (one!) beer at some craft brewery in a busy cruise port in the fjords at the end of the day. I had neither, so we couldn't tell.

The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
« on: January 24, 2018, 06:43:06 AM »
In Russian the name is spelled Белёвский, so it should be pronounced Belyovskiy (stress on the second syllable), even though it's written Belevsky.

The Windsors / Re: Princess Eugenie of York
« on: January 23, 2018, 05:42:38 PM »
So, she has announced her engagement to her third cousin twice removed, Jack Brooksbanks. (Both are descendants of the second Coke Earl of Leicester.) He is a man who in Imperial Russia would be looked down upon as nothing more than a glorified waiter, as he is peddling alcohol without owning any vineyards or distilleries.

Having Fun! / Re: Russian Quizzo/Trivia Round
« on: January 23, 2018, 03:43:09 PM »
BTW this Christmas tour of the world quiz also contains this gem:

"A monarchist would like to buy areas in this state, which might disappear. There he wants to build a safe haven for supporters of a dynasty that was abolished in 1917, and to restore a form of government. The state has a geographical position like no other country."

This one should be easy for the esteemed members of this forum!

The answer is the Pacific state of Kiribati, which straddles both the Equator and the 180th meridian, putting the country in both the northern, southern, eastern and western part of the Earth. The Yekaterinburg native Anton Bakov, a Russian businessman and leader of the Russian Monarchist Party, is negotiating with several small states, among them Kiribati, concerning aquiring territory where he can set up an independent micro state called the Romanov Empire.

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