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Nicholas II / Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich

« on: September 13, 2013, 04:38:55 PM »

Do we know of any foreign countries that Nicholas had planned to visit but never had the chance to? Trips that either were cancelled for one reason or another or perhaps destinations he longed to see but was never able to fit it into his schedule?

As Наследник Норвежский (Heir to Norway) and всея северныя страны Повелитель (Master of all the Northern Regions, similar to Finland's proposed Pohjolan isäntä), one imagines he was curious to visit Norway and the North Cape (perhaps even ancient Norwegian Arctic dominions like Greenland and Spitsbergen, made famous by Nansen), but unlike many of his royal contemporaries, he never did.

BTW did he ever visit Velikaya knyaginya Maria Pavlovna's homeland Mecklenburg, arguably the Western European country which ressembled Russia the most in terms of politics, economy and reactionary backwardness, but still being more prosperous, advanced and modernized than Russia, was a kind of model of what Russia could aspire to be, as NII's ideal agrarian autocracy.

1909   June               Sweden  (Stockholm). June 20-21
          July                Germany   (Kiel)
                                France     (Cherbourg)
                                England - Cowes Regatta

One presumes the Герцог Шлезвиг-Голстинский (Gertsog Schlesvig-Golsteinskiy) cruised through his ancestral duchies on the recently-built Kaiser-Wilhelm (Kieler) Canal on the trip from the Baltic to the North Sea?

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Nicholas II / Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich

« on: September 13, 2013, 03:20:12 PM »

That other meeting also took place in Sweden. They stayed in Sweden till Olga's name day, July 24th, and then returned to Peterhof.

Wow, they stayed for a whole month?

That other meeting also took place in Sweden. They stayed in Sweden till Olga's name day, July 24th, and then returned to Peterhof.

BTW according to this Swedish popular history article, 1909 was also the year when Gustaf V received in audience (and made advances to) a 12 year old scout called Kurt Haijby, something which came back to kick his posthumous reputation in the a** (if you excuse the coarse pun!) in the 1950s.

One does start to wonder how the lecherous pedophile Gustaf V might have ogled the Tsesarevich if he had been some years older, not at least because Gustaf, who had been weak and sickly as a child, might have recognized something of himself in the boy....

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BeNeLux Royalty / Re: TM King Filip & Queen Mathilde of the Belgians

« on: September 13, 2013, 03:11:14 PM »

Love the term Blijde Intrede / Joyeuse Entrée!

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Nicholas II / Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich

« on: September 13, 2013, 02:57:43 PM »

Ah, interesting, thank you! Here are some other Swedish contemporary sources about the visit, which otherwise was marked by the Social-Democratic mayor's order (eventually voted down in the city council) that the city should refuse to fly the flag from the city hall, in protest against the state visit of a "dictator and tyrann".

(Very interesting parallell with Obama! One could draw it even further, with Lenin visiting Stockholm for a Social-Democratic congress in 1907 and Julian Assange staying there some time ago.)

And that other meeting with Gustaf V, when they met on their yachts, did it take place on a Swedish or a Finnish island?

BTW NII's last visit to Finland was an official inspection visit to Helsinki in 1915. He was met with indifference.

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The Imperial Family / Re: Pronounciation

« on: September 12, 2013, 06:18:53 PM »

Good audio source for pronunciations in multiple languages: Forvo.

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Nicholas II / Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich

« on: September 12, 2013, 06:11:13 PM »

Does anyone know if there is any truth to the story that the Emperor was the target of an assassination attempt when visiting Stockholm on the 26th of June 1909? The anarchist gunman Hjalmar Wång never got close enough instead to the Emperor and instead shot and killed a Swedish officer and himself, according to the Swedish Wikipedia.

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Forum Announcements / Re: New Users say Hello Here and ONLY HERE!

« on: September 12, 2013, 05:46:56 PM »

Another of my great grandfathers -- Lord Ferdinando Fairfax -- had a daughter, Lady Francis Fairfax, who married a Widdrington, and their son, Samuel, came to America to start one of my lines, but there are so many others.

Lord Fairfax's daughter was not entitled to the style "Lady". As long as she wasn't the daughter of a duke, marquess or earl but a mere Scottish lord of parliament aka baron, she was just "The Honourable Francis Fairfax".

Hello all, BTW :-)

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The Hesse-Darmstadts (Hesse and by Rhine) / Re: Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven- part II

« on: September 12, 2013, 05:13:19 PM »

Yes. I agree with you completely Grandduchessella. Miechen & Marie Paulvona (JR) works !

Instead of descending to vulgar pseudo-familiarity, why not differentiate between them by means of their titles, which are not the same in Russian: Великая княгиня, Velikaya knyaginya, MP vs. Великая княжна, , Velikaya knyazhna, MP!?