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I accomplished my book shopping and am patting myself, profusely, on my back! I not only obtained this book but I bought it at a very nice price, in my opinion. This book will be the first of my group bought to read and I'm looking forward to having some knowledge of the topic(s) being discussed in this thread. Since I'm on spring break from college, I'm looking very forward to some "fun reading" time. And many thanks to those of you who encouraged me to read it and join in this thread.  

I've been following this thread as often as my time allows and I'll be very honest, I haven't read the book nor do I know much about the topic but I'm trying my best to follow! Today, as fortune would provide, I'm going book shopping and I want to buy this book but I'm almost scared to do so as there seems so much argument just in this thread alone about its contents. Historical points are always up for discussion and interpretation depending on the person you're discussing them with, but I've almost lost the theme of this thread...someone point me back (in a nice manner, please) back to the original question of this thread so I will be aware it when I read the book. Thank you in advance.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personal World
« on: February 24, 2008, 07:56:43 PM »
I certainly admire Alexandra's wide variety of reading topics. She seemed to cover a broad spectrum of subjects.

News Links / Re: Amber room found
« on: February 20, 2008, 04:23:51 PM »
If this is true, wouldn't it be wonderful??

What a beautiful icon! Thank you for posting it.

The Windsors / Re: Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York Pt II
« on: February 19, 2008, 09:29:27 PM »
Wait a minute...didn't one of her "well-mannered" daughters go running after her boyfriend into a men's restroom just recently??? Okie-dokie...  

Forum Announcements / Re: Where do you come from?
« on: February 09, 2008, 10:57:25 PM »
I'm an American and of course by being so, have a rich cultural background of german, french, irish, british, dutch and swiss ancestors. Some I knew because of they were alive when I was a youngster and many I wish I'd known as they appear to have been a colorful and hearty group of people. I thank them the DNA they passed down!

The Final Chapter / Re: why did the kill the children?
« on: February 03, 2008, 09:31:45 AM »
I agree, Dmitri. What better rallying point than the daughters of the Tsar? They would have represented the closest link to the Nicholas, creating a bond and point of ultimate concern for the hopes of the people who wanted his legacy to live on.

The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York Pt II
« on: February 03, 2008, 08:58:36 AM »
Royal or not, appearing interested in whatever situation a person is presented with is only common courtesy to the speaker or speakers.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personality Traits - Good & Bad
« on: February 01, 2008, 07:02:55 AM »
RonnieLee - I agree with you. Unfortunately, Alexandra had character flaws but don't we all? And it's also unfortunate that she ended up in a country with a very precarious situation. 

Their World and Culture / Re: Aristocracy and the occult
« on: February 01, 2008, 06:15:53 AM »
Mari - yes, I've been to a psychic. With a group of gals I'm friends with, we had a "girls night out" which included a visit to a psychic. All of us enjoyed the visit as none of us looked to our visit & readings with nothing more than amusement and fun. After our visit, we compared our "notes", per se, and came to the conclusion that the majority of what was said was pretty general and very open to interpretation. For instance, the psychic told me I'd be receiving a larger than normal amount money - it was tax season so I realized that was very strong possibility.
Since that one-time visit I haven't returned to this gal, but I know through one of my friends this particular psychic is busy with her trade. I certainly understand the appeal of psychics to people as we always want to know what the future holds for us but I can't cross over that boundary that allows me to honestly believe they are able to "see" the future. But, they are fun!

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« on: January 20, 2008, 09:09:41 PM »
I seriously doubt being a wonderful mother was her "undoing" since she had nothing to personally "undo". As in any culture, being a wonderful mother, wife, help-mate is never considered wrong.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personality Traits - Good & Bad
« on: January 20, 2008, 08:59:33 PM »
One cannot cure in 22 years what has been built in hundreds by previous rulers. Nicholas would have had to have had some very savvy political people surrounding him to pull it off and he didn't. Too many people around him were concerned with their own socio-economical standing to have allowed the total reforms needed to keep the revolution from spinning out of control. It was a steam engine roaring down the track without an engineer and it had been doing so for many years before him.
Isn't "competent autocrat" a bit a contradictory expression as an autocratic system of government is never a competent method of governing human beings?

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« on: January 20, 2008, 03:56:47 PM »
I can't agree with you more, NAAOTMA. In comparison to what I've read about Queen Mary for example, Alexandra would almost be viewed as a "hands-on" mother. She seemed to consider herself a wife and mother first then an Empress.

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra's Personality Traits - Good & Bad
« on: January 20, 2008, 03:39:07 PM »
The Russian Revolution cannot be entirely laid on the backs of Nicholas & Alexandra. All of their personality traits aside, the Russian Revolution came from centuries of oppression of the lower classes by the Tsarist regime. Emancipation from serfdom didn't occur until 1861, the peasants resented paying redemption payments to the state & the land reforms of Sergei Witte's in the early 1900's were not successful. To compound the problem even more, cities were becoming industrialized at an alarming rate yet the conditions were deplorable. All of this fed into the discontent of the people. Unfortunately, Nicholas was a man who knew nothing but the autocratic style of governing. He only had the tools, so to speak, that his ancestors had given him to go on to run the country.
Much has been made about Alexandra's personality feeding into the downfall of Russia but given the political and social climate that Russia had been experiencing it was a matter of time.   

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