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I certainly agree with all of what's been posted so far. At the end, there wasn't one Romanov who could have saved the empire from the revolution taking place. The rulers had simply "worn out" their welcome, so to speak, all due to the ineptness of Nicholas & Alexandra. They refused to understand that their autocratic ideals were outdated. And of course, with the war raging on the entire country was stretched beyond its means for food, supplies, and in the end the emotional support required of the public. The entire situation was a debacle from the get-go. 

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Thank you all for your reading suggestions as they are very helpful. I'm on a 'seek-n-find mission' for a few of these books this weekend.

Just a side note of a personal nature, not only would Bismarck driven me to the edge but her older children needed a good, stern kick in the bum, in my opinion.

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As with many in this thread, I am very impressed with the Empress Frederick. She seemed very knowledgeable in a wide range of topics. Dealing with Bismarck as she had to would have been enough to send me over the edge, per se.

If anyone has suggestions on books to read about her, I would be most appreciative.

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The Imperial Family / Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« on: September 22, 2007, 05:49:32 PM »
I know I'm not in the correct thread for the following question but I've yet to find the correct one so here goes & please direct me to the proper topic: what factor determines which tiara or set of jewels is worn for a picture or as in the case of Queen Elizabeth II, the function she's attending?
As is noted just in this thread alone, Alexandra had numerous tiaras & jewels to wear but how did she arrive at her decision?

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The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York
« on: September 22, 2007, 04:54:48 PM »
I'm thinking we're all on the 'same page' here with our thoughts.  Sarah would be doing Beatrice a huge favor by hiring a professional to "dress" Beatrice. And I wonder if her grandmother the Queen looked at the photos and cringed as we're doing??


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The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York
« on: September 22, 2007, 07:07:25 AM »
TampaBay, I most certainly agree with you. Both dresses are very attractive and you can never go wrong with a black dress...except in this instance. Neither dress does justice to the person wearing it nor vice versa.

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The Windsors / Re: Princess Beatrice of York
« on: September 22, 2007, 06:40:08 AM »
OMG! <grabbing metal fork to stick in my eye> ...that black dress is not flattering on Princess Beatrice. And in my opinion, it's not very royal-like to be catwalk-modeling.

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The Final Chapter / Re: Did Nicholas have to abdicate?
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:35:18 PM »
You are quite correct that the decision of Nicholas II to assume the position of Commander-in-Chief was extremely foolish. Taking up such a position made him 100% liable for all defeats and placed him far away from the capital of the empire. He was warned, like on so many other occasions during his reign, about the consequences of such actions. Sadly he chose not to listen. Nicholas seemed to go from one crisis to the next without learning and came out with the excuse that it was God's will or that he was born of the day of St.Job. Most of the situations he got himself into were completely avoidable, sadly. He seems to have been a very loving husband and father. Sadly this did not equip him to be the ruler of a vast empire. 

Dmitri, you are so correct. I keep thinking that every problem he encounters he'll surely learn from his mistakes but it's not to be. 

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Having Fun! / Re: Siblings
« on: September 16, 2007, 07:21:17 PM »
I have a sister four years younger than myself. We're very, very close - she has "my back" and I have hers no matter what the situation. This same closeness has carried over to our children too. 

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Having Fun! / Re: Like or Dislike?
« on: September 16, 2007, 07:10:07 PM »
love Harry Potter...excellent character...

how about...card games?

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I find it hard to believe that they deliberately tried NOT to have any more children. Was the throne so unimportant to Nicholas that he, knowing Alexei could die any time, would just let it go? As for her pregnancies being very difficult, women have had extremely rough pregnancies forever and continued to have more children. The idea that because Alexei had hemophilia, they would not try to have more children does not match up to the rest of Alix's family. Look at all the children and grandchildren, etc., that Queen Victoria had full well knowing about hemophilia in the family. The idea of birth control seems very unlikely to me. First of all, they were very devout, secondly, there is no record, that I am aware of, of birth control being used in a monarchy.

The situation may not have been "deliberate" at all. After five pregnancies so close together, Alexis' hemophilla, the mental and physical stress of the entire situation plus a woman's normal physiological timeclock, getting pregnant may not have been as easy for Alexandra.

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Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich / Re: Alexei and Hemophilia
« on: September 15, 2007, 07:47:07 PM »
The illness of Alexis is all too often given as a reason for the downfall of the Russian Empire. It is a side issue. The importance of his illness is often overstated. Mirsule and revolution made the abdication necessary. It was not due to Alexis. Nicholas II was forced to abdicate. He first abdicated for himself in favour of Alexis. After consulting with Doctors, he decided after his legal abdication, to amend the original abdication and to abdicate for Alexis as well. It is difficult to imagine the legality of the amendment as from the time of his original abdication he no longer held any position in the governance of Russia. He was merely the former Tsar. He had no legal authority to do anything. I think once Michael avoided taking up the poisoned chalice of Tsar after the monarchy had been effectively overthrown, no person wished the position. Power had passed already to the Provisional Government. Romanov rule was at an end. It is a great shame that female rule was not pursued as some of the very best rulers of Russia were women.

My thoughts exactly, Dmitri. Thank you. Alexis' illness was only a serious point of concern for the future of N & A's line of succession. 

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Oh my gosh, the magic word "crinoline" was mentioned! I have a picture of myself that my parents took in the early 1960's wearing a Polly Flinders dress with a substantial petticoat or crinoline underneath...my only memory to this day is that the petticoat/crinoline was scratchy! But the dress was certainly pretty and I do remember feeling "very special" for that Easter dinner.

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All of these photographs are gorgeous! Each picture tends to remind me of my mother's wedding photograph - her dress was made from "slipper" satin, simple yet elegant but what astounds me most was how tiny her waist was - 18 inches - and this was without the help of a corset!

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First let me say that I certainly believe Jackie Kennedy had a very regal posture. Her entire "being" seemed regal; but that's only my opinion.

It's been my thought, that the very nature of the clothing worn before present day lended to the attitude of the woman wearing the garment. For example, I certainly "feel" different when I'm dressed in more formal attire - church as an example -  than for one of my daughters' softball tournament. Hence, I'm thinking woman then "felt" the mood the clothing conveyed. But I definitely must agree that woman were taught this from a very early age.

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