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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 14, 2014, 10:42:07 PM »
Barry Lewis english translation of Dad's writing on back of photos is:
1) Usov Family 1910 [?] c-715 [?]

Top

From left to right > my pat..[unclear word], Dmitry, my father,

his twin Alexandr, my grandfather below, my uncle Konstantin, Anastasia, my grandmother Maria,

below: from left, my uncle Fedor, Anna, my

goodmother [?](probably Godmother), Anastasia, Sergei, and my Grandmother

2) Russia

Estate of Ivanovskoe of Yaroslavskaya Province

Where I was born in the room

Top right-hand window


Also: Photo of my Grandfather Nicholas (My Fathers's father)



Very interesting information you have very kindly helped so much. Thank you.

I will also post photo of book showing cataloguing from Estate House. My brother will ask Dad if he can photograph it.






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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 14, 2014, 10:22:19 PM »
Dad is very old. Born around 1920 apparently. He came here to Australia on a boat-I think it was called "The Friendship" with his wife Anna. (I will double check with my brother Peter). There are australian ship records of this.

Here is a photo of my father taken when in 1978, and the photos of the crests he made us.








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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 11, 2014, 04:39:53 AM »
The book that Father was that was given to him is from the Estate where he was born. It is correctly catalogued and identifiable from that Estate. ;D


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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 10, 2014, 10:21:27 PM »
Just had another good look at the Usov Coat of Arms and I got goosebumps!.....because....interestingly...I recall a dream I had some 10 years ago when I started my family research and started meditating...I dreamt the Lady of the Lake's hand came up out of the water as I was galloping my white horse over it and I took the sword and threw it high up as high as I could and I watched it up fly into the air pointing upwards where upon it became two doves of peace, on each side of the sword.... interestingly the Usov coat of arms you have shown me is of an arrow pointing upwards with a wing on each side!

Hmm wonder why Dad did those wooden coat of arms/crests and what they mean???


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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 10, 2014, 09:40:36 PM »
PS Does this mean we are able to have citizenship in Russia - I wonder if we are able to have dual for Australia and Russia! Oh I'm so happy- fridays is truly the day of love!

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 10, 2014, 09:34:59 PM »
Usov family translated into English:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fru.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%25D0%25A3%25D1%2581%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B2%25D1%258B&edit-text=&act=url


I don't know what to think! WOW this is great! Thank you! One thing that DOES add up is that Dad said one of his relatives helped to build the Railway in Russia and that he was an engineer...I note that there is mentioned in the link you have given me re the Usov family a certain:

 Peter S. Usov (1832 - 1897) - Engineer of Railways , the brother of the previous. The last 27 years of his life was an inspector of water pipes and lighting at the St. Petersburg local authority. At the beginning of 1860. Usov published "The course of the building art", at one time was of great importance, as the only major guide on Russian language . The course still has not lost value. Furthermore, Usov published many translations and compilations of works on different branches of engineering. Of these, the most important: "Steam mechanics" Weisbach (in collaboration with others), "Reference book for engineers and architects" (St. Petersburg, 1884); "Asphalt work" (St. Petersburg, 1886), etc. [4]

He also mentioned that one of his relatives was  a financial advisor to the Tsar of Russia, but typically he hasn't told us which Tsar! can you help us there?

I know my brother Peter especially will be pleased with what I have been able to find out so far! :)

 :)




 

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 10, 2014, 09:12:42 PM »
"This is not Ivanskoye in Yaroslavskaya Oblast, but an Ivanskoye in the town of Podolsk in the Moscow Region. This is the grand estate that was owned by a (not the) Count Tolstoy in the 19th century.
Can't you see that the estate in the picture you got from your father looks much more modest than this palatial Ivanskoye???"


Yes I had wondered about that, I didn't know what to think other than possibly it had been rebuilt at some stage - and added on to ....and that the photo my father gave me doesn't show ALL of the Estate house, just a portion of it.....thank you for explaining! Looks like some lovely birch trees out the front.

Doesn't dads writing specifically say: "Estate of Ivanovskoe of Yaroslavskaya Province" ??? hmm.

No that family crest doesn't look anything like what my father showed me or made for me...when I was a round 10 years of age, he made me 2 wooden shields to put on the wall, and placed on each shield : one is of a brown russian bear on a pale blue background with a long cutting implement over its left shoulder and the blade is curved amd white, the other shield is of a golden eagle in descent mode on a white background then a blue line and underneath that a red background with two of the same style of cutting implenets as the bear, but they are crossed over, and the curved blades are golden in colour.

I do really like those Usov arms you showed me....much better though! All very interesting indeed!

??? I can take a photo of them and post if that would help - ?

Thank you so much! :)

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 09, 2014, 06:41:07 PM »
Thank you! Yes I am well aware aware of how serfdom and feudalism worked.

I thought too it also might have been small village of Usov in Pervomayskiy (1st of May) rayon, in the Orenburg governate / oblast... However dad said it was in Moravia which he said was at that time part of Russia.

Any thoughts on the photos of the family and of the Estate House where dad was born?

From what I have been able to ascertain the Estate of Ivanovskoe of Yaroslavskaya Province was inherited by Tolstoy in the late 1800's. After that I do not know who owned it or what the status of the Estate is now. Probably a museum?

It would help to be able to know whom to contact in relation the Estate's history. Which I am working on. Probably Barry Lewis is my best shot at the moment due to his knowledge and experience. That would then help my brothers and I work out more of our Fathers russian ancestry.

I am taking the brunt of the research and have been for many years. I want my children and my brothers children to know and to experience their deep russian history and to embrace it, should they so choose to do so.

Many Thanks for taking the time to assist us, it is most appreciated.

This is what it looks like now:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/natibelitskaya/8781521379/in/photostream/

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 08, 2014, 08:13:36 AM »


Dads writing on back of photo:

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 08, 2014, 08:08:49 AM »




Photo of my fathers family and his notes on back of photo.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 08, 2014, 07:20:24 AM »
LOL to all the replies, I can see the "pack of Corsair" energy is quite rife!

I'm here because I am asking for help, I don't know all the answers and I am trying to ascertain what exactly the truth is. I am here because I am choosing to research my RUSSIAN ancestry. If I had had more information and an awareness as I do now I would have contacted a Russian historian in the first place. I literally only just received the ancestor surnames etc less than a year ago after asking for many years.

Am sharing what I am aware of and do know. I can't possibly be a Princess of Lichenstein or a member of a royal family so what is dad on about when he says one of his ancestors won the Town of Usov in a card game....unless it was before the Dukes of Lichenstein?

Like I mentioned I do not know if the DNA has anything to do with it or not - please read the post properly before assuming. Am sharing what I do know so I can work it out not only for me and my children but also my elder brothers  should they also choose to know about their russian ancestry.

If you choose to help please do so. And be please kinder. Noble, not ignoble.

Thank you!






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True and its awful not having been brought up with all that heritage just because of parents FEAR! And we all know that fear hols people back and it does no good for anyone!
So having exited that out heres what I say:

Nothing can stop anyone if you really truly want to know about you russian roots! I want to go back and live in Russia for part of each year when my kids are older and /or when I can have a nanny....and immerse myself in my history. Ideas: working holidays, tour guides. Just walking on russian soil would be great!

You can do anything if you programme your mind to achieve it!

There are russian learning sites you can go to learn Russian, personally I think living there for a period of time is going to be the best way to learn it.
Living there in a community, you could take a look at the The Ringing Cedars group of facebook or the web. Lots of great things happening in Russia and all over the world - Kins Domains....its pretty cool. I would also love to be able to have the opportunity to work in Tsarskoe Selo helping the restoration of the buildings/artworks and gardens, I'd even do it just for bed and board for a while.

Carpe diem!

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 07, 2014, 08:59:54 AM »
Some names written down by a family member in russia...this might help....There IS an offical family tree I saw only once many years ago with a crest at the top, it was a huge piece of old paper/parchment. Apparently its now gone missing. ::)  This is all I have for the moment.....just have given some of the names showing.

Nikolai Nikolaevitch Voronin - Born 1809 - Died 1962
Nikolai Vladimirovich Glavinsky - Born 1931 - Died 1998
Olga Dmitrevna Glavinskaya 1909 - 1020
Nikolai Ivanovich Pavlov - Born 1915 - Died 1997
Aleksandra Mikhhailovna Batyreva Born 1888 Died 1924

 other names noted:
Korolev
Smirnov
Aksenova
Borisenko
Pavlov
Popov

Dads mother apparently was french from the deNote (DeNote) family? This doesn't make sense to me from what I can see her name was actually Lidiya Nikolaevitch Melnikova Born 1902...dad said something about her having to change her name to a russian name to be able to stay in russia then to marry my grandfather:

Lidiya Nikolaevitch Melnikova Born 1902 - Died?? (before my grandfather)
Nikolai Mikhailovich Usov Born 1895 - Died 1967

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: April 07, 2014, 08:30:32 AM »
 Further info in relation to the name Usov - his great grandfather or great great gradfather won the town of Usov in a card game. Research has indicated that it could be town of Usov in Moravia - which has an interesting history and there is also a castle - Usov:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Asov

I have two photos which he gave me a little while back. One is of the Estate House previously mentioned with his russian writing on the back which has been translated for me by Barry Lewis whom I have had contact with over the last 10 years or so with other things for translation.

The other photo is a photo of his family in 1910. I do not want to place these photos on photobucket or any other such site as I have had problems previously with intruders hacking in. My facebook page is only for my friends that I know i can trust so I am not going to make that public for all and sundry either, again I have had problems previously with intruders when it has been made available to all and sundry.

Is it not possible for me simply upload them from my computer directly here? He has given me the names of family members, as in their first names, but not their surnames.

I did ask an admin to help me via emailing them as attachments but was refused, could this please be reconsidered.

The other thing I do know is that and this was confirmed by Professor Stewart (Part of the London Royal Free - haematology section) is we are related some 6 generations back via a common ancestor. I was told this around 5 years ago. This puts a timeframe of late 1700's and early 1800's. I was informed I was related to a family called "Smith", whom I am also in contact with. After some discussions with him he urged to me to write a letter to the British Royal Family, but not to expect too much as they would probably get one their "lackeys" to respond. I informed him that I had already done that in 2003 and had received a response from the Queens "lackey"  to say that "No member of the British Royal Family could help me". However, the reply that came back from Prince Charles was distinctly warmer in that his lackey had conveyed via Prince Charles that "It was good of me to write about my father". I as lo explained that after the really awful things that started happening after that, to me and my friends made me feel distinctly unwilling to attempt another letter. I had tried to explain things as they were and it wasn't probably written in the "correct" way to be received. I also was unaware of the old history that has played out from between the Russian and the English Royal families prior.

I have also been informed that there are only 21 people in the world that share this particular autosomal dominant deletion mutation. I don't know exactly what this means - if anything..yet. however the London Royal Free Lab c/o Professor Hawkins and also the Jack O"Neil Lab, are now doing further testing, after I emailed them some further information about my father and those particular 2 photos I have discussed here.

So far we know that all people with this delm694 all come from Northern European heritage. They think there is a common ancestor that links all of the 21 people that have it (plus my family).

My Father is Russian and born in Russia and my mother is English. Mothers family come from Wiltshire, Mildenhall, yet none of them seem to have a history of anything like this, and they go back many generations there. I had wondered if perhaps way back in mothers family there may have been a connection to Russian Nobility...6 generations ago....Tsar Alexander 1st?.....and this, teamed up with my fathers DNA has somehow produced this exceedingly rare thing we have.

Onwards and Upwards! Lets work it all out, if you can help me, please do so, because its driving me nutty. lol

Susannah.








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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!
« on: March 15, 2014, 05:51:35 PM »
Honestly all I know is what my Father has told me....again as I mentioned the name of the Austrian town was unclear...you must remember thayt my father IS very old...and I am going off what HE told me...I will contact my brother and do a double check ok....I may have the name of the town incorrect..back later!

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