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Research Russian Roots / Re: Russian desendants! Why not move back to Russia? Let's do it!

« on: April 07, 2014, 09:22:33 AM »

True and its awful not having been brought up with all that heritage just because of parents FEAR! And we all know that fear hols people back and it does no good for anyone!
So having exited that out heres what I say:

Nothing can stop anyone if you really truly want to know about you russian roots! I want to go back and live in Russia for part of each year when my kids are older and /or when I can have a nanny....and immerse myself in my history. Ideas: working holidays, tour guides. Just walking on russian soil would be great!

You can do anything if you programme your mind to achieve it!

There are russian learning sites you can go to learn Russian, personally I think living there for a period of time is going to be the best way to learn it.
Living there in a community, you could take a look at the The Ringing Cedars group of facebook or the web. Lots of great things happening in Russia and all over the world - Kins Domains....its pretty cool. I would also love to be able to have the opportunity to work in Tsarskoe Selo helping the restoration of the buildings/artworks and gardens, I'd even do it just for bed and board for a while.

Carpe diem!

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: April 07, 2014, 08:59:54 AM »

Some names written down by a family member in russia...this might help....There IS an offical family tree I saw only once many years ago with a crest at the top, it was a huge piece of old paper/parchment. Apparently its now gone missing.  This is all I have for the moment.....just have given some of the names showing.

Nikolai Nikolaevitch Voronin - Born 1809 - Died 1962
Nikolai Vladimirovich Glavinsky - Born 1931 - Died 1998
Olga Dmitrevna Glavinskaya 1909 - 1020
Nikolai Ivanovich Pavlov - Born 1915 - Died 1997
Aleksandra Mikhhailovna Batyreva Born 1888 Died 1924

 other names noted:
Korolev
Smirnov
Aksenova
Borisenko
Pavlov
Popov

Dads mother apparently was french from the deNote (DeNote) family? This doesn't make sense to me from what I can see her name was actually Lidiya Nikolaevitch Melnikova Born 1902...dad said something about her having to change her name to a russian name to be able to stay in russia then to marry my grandfather:

Lidiya Nikolaevitch Melnikova Born 1902 - Died?? (before my grandfather)
Nikolai Mikhailovich Usov Born 1895 - Died 1967

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: April 07, 2014, 08:30:32 AM »

 Further info in relation to the name Usov - his great grandfather or great great gradfather won the town of Usov in a card game. Research has indicated that it could be town of Usov in Moravia - which has an interesting history and there is also a castle - Usov:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Asov

I have two photos which he gave me a little while back. One is of the Estate House previously mentioned with his russian writing on the back which has been translated for me by Barry Lewis whom I have had contact with over the last 10 years or so with other things for translation.

The other photo is a photo of his family in 1910. I do not want to place these photos on photobucket or any other such site as I have had problems previously with intruders hacking in. My facebook page is only for my friends that I know i can trust so I am not going to make that public for all and sundry either, again I have had problems previously with intruders when it has been made available to all and sundry.

Is it not possible for me simply upload them from my computer directly here? He has given me the names of family members, as in their first names, but not their surnames.

I did ask an admin to help me via emailing them as attachments but was refused, could this please be reconsidered.

The other thing I do know is that and this was confirmed by Professor Stewart (Part of the London Royal Free - haematology section) is we are related some 6 generations back via a common ancestor. I was told this around 5 years ago. This puts a timeframe of late 1700's and early 1800's. I was informed I was related to a family called "Smith", whom I am also in contact with. After some discussions with him he urged to me to write a letter to the British Royal Family, but not to expect too much as they would probably get one their "lackeys" to respond. I informed him that I had already done that in 2003 and had received a response from the Queens "lackey"  to say that "No member of the British Royal Family could help me". However, the reply that came back from Prince Charles was distinctly warmer in that his lackey had conveyed via Prince Charles that "It was good of me to write about my father". I as lo explained that after the really awful things that started happening after that, to me and my friends made me feel distinctly unwilling to attempt another letter. I had tried to explain things as they were and it wasn't probably written in the "correct" way to be received. I also was unaware of the old history that has played out from between the Russian and the English Royal families prior.

I have also been informed that there are only 21 people in the world that share this particular autosomal dominant deletion mutation. I don't know exactly what this means - if anything..yet. however the London Royal Free Lab c/o Professor Hawkins and also the Jack O"Neil Lab, are now doing further testing, after I emailed them some further information about my father and those particular 2 photos I have discussed here.

So far we know that all people with this delm694 all come from Northern European heritage. They think there is a common ancestor that links all of the 21 people that have it (plus my family).

My Father is Russian and born in Russia and my mother is English. Mothers family come from Wiltshire, Mildenhall, yet none of them seem to have a history of anything like this, and they go back many generations there. I had wondered if perhaps way back in mothers family there may have been a connection to Russian Nobility...6 generations ago....Tsar Alexander 1st?.....and this, teamed up with my fathers DNA has somehow produced this exceedingly rare thing we have.

Onwards and Upwards! Lets work it all out, if you can help me, please do so, because its driving me nutty. lol

Susannah.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 05:51:35 PM »

Honestly all I know is what my Father has told me....again as I mentioned the name of the Austrian town was unclear...you must remember thayt my father IS very old...and I am going off what HE told me...I will contact my brother and do a double check ok....I may have the name of the town incorrect..back later!

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 05:46:22 PM »

I appreciate your honesty and how you feel. I am learning russian. And the reasons I feel about the British Monarchy are very personal, due to the way me and my family members have been treated by them and stalked in the past and also by the doctors in the UK  investigating our DNA. I am pleased to say that the negative attitude from them has finally stopped and they have come on board. This is not about conspiracy. This is about Truth. If take the time you will see that I am no longer part of the site you have discussed. It was too negative, and so was I at the time.

This research I am doing here regarding my russian roots is about the truth about and nothing else but that.

Kind Regards


LOL I just read your above post. Synchronicity perhaps?

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 05:25:14 PM »

Ok see your email will email you.
I will be back tommorrow.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 05:21:27 PM »

A photo of our ancestors:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219452898250838&l=009715b905

Fathers writing on back of photo:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219453014917493&l=393d38b5fa

These links don't open.

Hmm... ok...must be due to my privacy options on facebook....if you would like to pm me your email I will send them that way, if that is ok.
Thank you for your help, much appreciated.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 05:17:51 PM »

Here is where it gets interesting! Thank you SO much for the information!

My father goes by the surname of Usov. I asked him about why he chose this name. This is what he told me: He said that when he was working at H&H Eggers....he was working in a large building...(I think from memory its was Lizt...or somethingsounding like that)he got leave one day to be able to go and watch a movie. When he came back...all the Germans had left the town and left all the supplies. He went upstairs to the radio room and turned it on and found out that the russians and the american forces were coming.

Apparently he was under instruction as they all were, that if the other armed forces came into town the bridge was to be blown up. Father chose not to follow orders thank God.

He also found all the supplies they had left in the building...huge amounts off food and army cigarettes. he took a box of them and asked the cook (who I think might have been Anna Kozlova)...to take some of his clothes for size and to go and find a tailor to make him an austrian set of clothes complete with a hat. They were made and he he then went out in them and found the person in the town in charge of the passport section. This man apparently had a HUGE moustache. One of those ones that drop down and then curl up at the ends.

Dad explained his story about who he really was and then gave the man another name to use for his passport, He apparently explained that he wanted to go under the polish version of that name and village as it would be safer. The official  agreed to help him and also mentioned that if he had any other people who needed help to send them to him, along with any further cartons of cigarettes. He and Anna set about organising the food supplies so that people could come and have food. She was the cook apparently.


Please be aware that my father would most likely "officially" be very upset with me for discussing him and his information, yet "privately" happy that I have.  He is married to a german lady and things are difficult between us at this time. My searched for history and the truth and my way of trying to help my father have been misconstrued by some members of the family who are not as awake as others are. I would ask that people do respect his privacy and ours. I want to share information about this courageous man who has been through so much and whom, I feel would in his heart like people to know the truth without it affecting him or us adversly. I am requesting benevolent outcomes around all of this for my Father whom I care deeply about.

I will shortly post some maps of his journey during those wartime years.

Thank you for helping me,

I am so grateful.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 04:40:48 PM »

A photo of our ancestors:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219452898250838&l=009715b905

Fathers writing on back of photo:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219453014917493&l=393d38b5fa

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 04:29:58 PM »

Other information: Many years ago, in my 20's I found a member of the Shuvalov family on the internet and I emailed them, and asked them to find the oldest living member of their family and impart to them our deepest thanks, that we saluted them for helping my father.

My father said that he stayed with them after he skated across the ice to Estonia he stayed with the Shuvalov family. He also mentioned that a russian ballerina was also staying with them. He ended up working for a German shipbuilding and bridge building fiirm called H &H Eggers. I also gave them my fathers name and his address and asked them to somehow contact him.

I did not tell my father I had done this. I wanted to see if what he said was true, and if so, a lovely surprise for him and a healing of his feelings about what happened to Russia and the Russian people.

Imagine our surprise when around 6 months later, my father rang me very excited and happy to say that an unknown russian lady had knocked on his door and handed him a book from the Estate where he was born, he thought everything had been lost. It is a correctly catalogued book according to how the libray was organised in that time. It is a book about who the happiest man in russia is: The Tsar, The Archbishop or the Alcoholic.

I still did not tell my father I had done this. Some things are better left unsaid. It was lovely to see him so happy and full of joy.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 04:15:44 PM »

Here is a link to my facebook account to view the photo.

Moderators :If this is not allowed please inform me and I will remove. I have had photobucket acounts before and suchlike they are NOT safe and always get hacked in to.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219440074918787&l=8448818013

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 04:00:23 PM »

From Barry Lewis - Russian translater - translation notes and his comments: (please note the first 4 lines of type are what my Father has written on the back of the photo of his Great Grandfather Estate)

Russia

Estate of Ivanovskoe of Yaroslavskaya Province

Where I was born in the room

Top right-hand window

[Translator's note: Russian Wikipedia mentions the village of Ivanovskoe (estates were usually named after villages) in Pereslavsky District, Yaroslavskaya Province. However, there appear to be two places in Yaroslavskaya Province called Ivanovskoe. Google maps shows two Ivanovskoye (note the different spelling) in Yaroslavskaya oblast (Yaroslavskaya Province). Locating places in Russia can be quite difficult, particular small places; they may have become part of a different province, their names may have changed etc. Do you have any other evidence, or the name of the district ["raion" in Russian] which might help?]

Addit: Upon asking my father to clarify, no further information was given. he closed up. Does anyone here know of this Estate and information about it. I feel its important for my family to know and for my children to know their russian roots.

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Research Russian Roots / Re: A little help please!

« on: March 15, 2014, 03:57:12 PM »

I am back. Ok I have a lot more information now.
Shortly I will post a photo of the Estate house that my Father was born in. It was burnt down in WW2 years due to soldiers smoking downstairs who being billeted there. The Esate house no longer exists but apparently a couple of the outbuildings do. It has a caretaker apparently, according to my Father.

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Q&A and Interviews / Re: Researching my Russian ancestors: can a Russian speaker help with emails?

« on: March 14, 2014, 09:26:38 PM »

Hi there,
Suggest you contact Barry Lewis. He will assist you for a fee. here is the link to his site and contact details. I have engaged his services over many years and he is very reputable.
Here is the link: http://czechtranslation.com.au/index.php?p=1_3

Good Luck! Its a long journey finding your ancestors and information, I wish you well.

missmoldavite365