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1936

Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia / Re: OTMA Bio for children

« on: May 16, 2005, 08:27:47 PM »

When some people said that we couldn't write a bio for OTMAA, I laugh. Some heros of the history world have 20 , 21, 22, 23 years old when they died, and they did plenty of things. The Argentinian hero Marco Avellaneda was a good politician at 19 and died put to death at 27. Eva Peron died at 33 and was already very important. George Sand write her memories, and many interesting things that happened to her, were when she was 17 to 22 years old.

  Poor OTMAA were too much protected by Alexandra, and then we know very little about them. But i'm sure they had already am interesting life, that we must discover.   I hope I must be able to do it.

RealAnastasia.

1937

Servants, Friends and Retainers / Re: Gleb and Tatiana Botkin, children of Dr Botkin

« on: May 16, 2005, 07:52:10 PM »

Annie: I would not discuss here any survivors theories. I said I'll keep my opinions by me...But WHY on hearth are you so ironical? I never said anything to you before, for I'm very polite and don't like to be harsh with other members. But people can think exactly they wants to. If they like to believe in fayries, let them do it. If they are fanatics of this or that, let them do it.

As for Wahoo, thank you four your post: I do not agree with your religious personal beliefs (even if I'm a religious person myself, a Catholic) but your info about Gleb Botkin was very useful for me as an historian. I'm studying Anna Anderson case and I would know more things about Jack Manahan. It was a pretty crazy guy,if I believe your post and other books I read about the case!   And why Gleb said that Anna was like a dog for Jack? I believed he was pretty sweet with her(in a crazy way, of course), and that it was her who was harsh to him...

RealAnastasia.

1938

The Imperial Family / Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF

« on: May 16, 2005, 07:35:14 PM »

I didn't see this one before. Very sad...I saw the burial of the IF in the TV, and I must said I cryed. You are right, Michelle. It's so sad...Of course, I taped all the ceremony.  

RealAnastasia.

1939

Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia the artist

« on: May 16, 2005, 07:07:19 PM »

Thank you, Ferngully. I'll check them soon!

RealAnastasia.

1940

Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia the artist

« on: May 15, 2005, 10:21:07 PM »

I would like to know some art by Maria. All the authors said she was very talented in painting and drawing!  ???Anastasia was also very talented, by the way...

RealAnastasia.

1941

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: A Chance?

« on: May 15, 2005, 10:18:07 PM »

I'm convinced that Anastasia escaped, as well as Alexis. And if Nastasya didn't escape is most likely another of the girls, did. Nevertheless, none of them may be alive today. I'm sure about this, at least! And no...Alexis is not like Heino Tammet. They were very different...Look at his big round head and odd ears!

  RealAnastasia.

1942

Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Nastya's teddy bear...

« on: May 15, 2005, 10:14:05 PM »

I agree with Maria_Romanov_Fan. It seems to be Ortino. It's not a Teddy Bear.

 RealAnastasia.

1943

Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re: A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate

« on: May 15, 2005, 05:52:43 PM »

And now, another "Tatiana" who escaped Ekaterinburg.

CLAIMANT NAME: Tatia Romani.

SOURCE AND STORY: Iternet. It was a Spanish site, of course in Spanish www.readysoft.es/home/bereak/Tatiana.htm  Sadly, today I wanted to enter this site and it said it was "Forbidden".   Nothing interesting, anyway. They only show a Tatiana's pic when she was a girl. The article had 20 pages that I printed, and was written first in French by Eleanor Romanov, who said she was the Tsar's granddaughter. This lady claims her mother "Tatiana" was the only survivor from Ekaterinburg. You may email the site's owners to bereak@readysoft.es

THE STORY: "Tatiana" claimed her parents trust she was the most intelligent of her daughters, the more who may take care of herself if she managed to escape. So, they give to her some documents,that she sewed into her corset, along with the family jewels. Nicholas and Alexandra had many talks with her to know what Tatiana most do if her family was killed. When the massacre happened, Tatiana was not dead, but she feint to be. The bolsheviks put her in the truck along with the rest of the family. She claimed she could feel the corpses under her. She whispered some words to them but she understood they were all dead, so she jumped out of the truch, and run into the woods. She fell many times, but she keep running and running. When she supposed to be very far to the truck, she lost conscience...And guess what? A nice guy rescued her. It was a muslim cosack who keep Tatiana with his people, muslims too, and very devoted to the Tsar. They were very surprised when they saw Tatiana all covered with blood. She must to be with them some months to recover from her wounds, but the muslims (nomads) were travelling to the south, and the girl went with them.  Then, she lived for a while in Tashkent and went to Kabul (Afghanistan capital).But she also lived in India and Syria  . She lived there disguissed in muslim woman. She went to live in France, nea Toulon, claimed to have been helped for the Emir Faisal, who would be soon, the king of Irak. She took the fake name Tatia Romani. Nevertheless, I can't understand why her daughter was named Eleonore Romanov...

  The whole story is very confusing and obscure. This Tatia Romani speaks about Rasputin saying he was "a Saint" and claiming that he had predicted that The Holy Russia and the Muslim world would work along, as great friends...This lady said she copied all the story from her mother's private diary. She started it in Ekaterinburg and end it in May 1919. Her daughter read it for the first time in march 1936. It seems that "Tatiana" NEVER claimed in public, to have been  the lost GD.

  And, of course...No photos.  

  RealAnastasia.

1944

Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga Stats

« on: May 14, 2005, 08:47:17 PM »

I laugh a lot when I read about Olga, for she is almost like me: stubborn, a bookworm, romantic  and passionate. But...of course:I'm not as pretty as she was. Slender like her, yes: blonde like her, yes. But I still said: I'm not so beatiful.

  I'm only grateful for a thing: I haven't a round big head!  

 RealAnastasia.

1945

Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re: A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate

« on: May 14, 2005, 07:22:52 PM »

And now, one of my "Tatiana's Claimant".

NAME OF THE CLAIMANT: Alexandra Michaelis.

SOURCE: An article wrote by French Historian Henri Danjou , in "Historia" Review (in French) March, 1955. "Was She a Russian Grand-Duchess?".

SHE APPEARED IN: 1939.Berlin, Germany.

SHE WORKED AS: a nurse, in a hospital for tuberculous people. The Institut  Boelitz-Adlershof.

SUPPORTERS: English Journalist George Herald and his wife. The Baron Werner Van Wiel, his sister, Jutta.

ALEXANDRA MICHAELIS STORY: She claimed she didn't suffered Ekaterinburg Massacre. She was rescued by an orthodox priest Father Storojew and a young soldier of Red Army, Vassili Blücher. The last one helped "Tatiana" to get the German Army, near Ljepaja, in Lithuanie. There, she took the name of Katharina von Travansky and went to live in Berlin. After a while "Tatiana" changed her name again. Since 1919, she was Alexandra Michaelis. Nobody saw her again after the 1950's.

HER ATTITUDE: She didn't claim she was Tatiana. She wanted to live alone, and when somebody would said who she was, she started to cry and said: "Oh! Let me alone! You don't have any proof that I'm Tatiana. I just wants to live as other people does, and if I had any money, I would share it with war victims!"

HER APPAREANCE: She was very stylish, slender and was very similar to Nicolas II.

  And sorry...No; no pics from her. GRRRR!!!  

  RealAnastasia.

1946

Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re: A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate

« on: May 14, 2005, 06:17:07 PM »

I do not understand why I would start another thread. I thought you were making a "Claimant's list" and that you request the name of the claimant, the source where we found it and the story about the claimants. I did it! If I write only: name of the claimant "Semionov". Wich Romanov he wanted to be: "Alexei". Source: Edvard Ratzinsy: "The Last Tsar". Story: Oh , he just claimed to be Alexei in 1948 whe he was in a psychiatric...This isn't much. And other members of the forum posted long stories, like Semionov's one!  

RealAnastasia.

1947

Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re: A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate

« on: May 13, 2005, 08:06:47 PM »

Sorry...I didn't know there was a "Pretender List" in the "Imperial Claimants Post Here" Forum, started by Bear. So, when I have the infos about the two "Tatianas" I'll post them here. Now I'll add the name of the "Russian Alexei Pretender". The source is Radzinsky's book "The Last Tsar" , so I don't know what to think about it.

  The claimant was named Filipp Grigorievich Semionov, and appeared for the first time in the psychiatrical hospital of Petrozavodsk. He had tryed to help a lady in a prisonner camp and when the guards come to avoid him to do so, he had an attack.  So, they send him to the hospital. It was in 1948.

  When Semionov arrive to the hospital he had a psychotic attack, was very nervous, moving in all directions, and crying swears to a certain "Belovorodov". After a while, he became quiet, and when the doctors and nurses wanted to know ore things about him, he revealed to them that he was born in 1904 in St. Petesburg. They noticed that his way of talking was much like the high St. Petesburg class in the Tsar's days. He know many details about noble families in the Old Russia, and of course a lot of little details about Romanov family. Finally, Semionov "confessed" :he was the Tsarevitch Alexei. He told how he was survived to the Ekaterinburg massacre. He was sitting near his "father", and when shots started, Nicholas put his "son" head over his chest, for avoid him to see what was to happen. "Alexei" didn't hear what Yurovsky was saying . He only hear the shots. He was wounded in the bottom, and he lost conscience, falling over some of his family's bodies.  When he awake, he was out the cellar, for a guy was taking care of him.

  In this point, there is no ore explanation about what happened in the cellar, but Radzinsky explains that Semionov got into some troubles that gets him prisonner in a camp. And after it, he was send to the psychiatric. He was always saying that "Belovorodov" knew about his secret and was always frightening him.

   Radzinsky stands that all the doctors there and the nurses believed his story, and much more when they discoveres that the "tsarevitch" suffered from a very rebell"Haematuria"and had chriptorchidia, just like Alexei. But they knew that they couldn't recognize him , for it would be a trouble with the authorities for the prisonner. A psychiatre from Leningrad examine him in 1949, and said that was better for him to go to a psychiatric institut for a while. Semionov agreed with that, for he didn't want to do public his claim; he didn't want trouble for him, nor for people who was interested about him. After it, he dissapeared in the life. He has studied economie in Baku, and he worked as economist in Central Asia. His wife was also named...Asia.

   As for his physical appareance he had thin , long face, blue "or gray" prominent eyes, he had a large forehead, and even if he was almost bald, his few hairs were chestnut, with a little gray in them. He reminded the doctors and nurses the Tsar Nicholas II, but also Nicholas I...

  And I don't know any more about him...Even less a pic from him. I read in Peter Kurth's site that Radzinsky had some Semionov photos. It would be nice to know them!

   RealAnastasia.

1948

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich

« on: May 13, 2005, 07:10:21 PM »

Hi:

      Does anyone knows something about this guy in Russia that claimed to be Alexei? I read his case in the Radzinsky book: "The Last Tsar", and I think it is interesting.

       I do not mean this man (who, after all I suppose , is dead now) was the Tsarevitch. I never discuss Romanov pretenders here, for some members of the forum eat you alive when you states your beliefs about someone surviving the Ekaterinburg awful night  . I'm only requesting pretenders' INFOS, and not opinions about them.  I'm doing a "Romanov Complete Pretenders List" and I think I'm forgotten some of them...There are soooo many pretenders! (Too many!)

      Did Radzinsky further researching in this man ? Someone had a pic of him? I would like very much to know how he looks, and his whole story. Radzinsky exposed the case in "The Last Tsar", but as for I read in Peter Kurth's site, he is still researching it. I know (for I read it here  ) that he is not a very accurate source, but his "Russian Alexei" must become part of my "Pretenders List" and I need to know more on him.

     Besides, I promise to share with you some good info about two "Tatiana's Pretenders". I want to do it, because Tatiana was not the girl whom pretenders like the more to become.Almost all of them wanted to be Anastasia or Maria. I know at least, two "Tatianas" in the West. The first one lived in France, working as a nurse; the other lived for a while in Syria   and moved to Spain, where she give birth to a baby-boy. I must translate the basically info about the two Tatianas (the first one from French, the other from  Spanish) to share it with this board.

      RealAnastasia.

1949

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts

« on: May 13, 2005, 06:51:37 PM »

In the "strange" Blair Lovell's book about Anastasia (to name it without use awful words  ) the author claims that Anna Anderson said that "Margda Boodts could have been her sister"   Later in her life, when she was senile and more excentric than ever, she also "recognized" this Dutch lady (I guess it was Alexandra de Graaf) as her "lost fifth sister".

  We may also recall that Eugenia Smith "recognized" Michael Goloniewsky, as being her "brother", the Tsarevitch Alexis..."I scratch your back; your scratch mine"  

   It would have been hilarious that AA would travel to Como to see "Olga", and would recognize her. Pretty strange she didn't do so.  

  RealAnastasia.

1950

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts

« on: May 13, 2005, 06:36:59 PM »

How interesting, Bear! I didn't read this book yet, for I can't find it in my country, but it sounds really interesting. His "Nicholas and Alexandra" is excellent. As French's would said a real "chef-d'oeuvre". I don't know anything - or almost anything- about Margda, Magda or now "Marga"   Boodts, but two little details: she lived in Italy, near Como's lake and she never made official claims.

  And, thank you for the "photo's explanation"! Now I understand what happened with them.

   RealAnastasia-