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The Tudors / Re: Lady Jane Grey
« on: July 18, 2005, 07:29:59 AM »
I know she was 17 but she had a very intellectual head on her shoulders. I am not deriding the girl,i said she also was a victim. Besides which,we were all 17 once and I know that i went through a stage of thinking i knew it all. We have all been ther surely ;)

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The Tudors / Re: Anne Boleyn
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:57:39 AM »
Arianwen, wow, how creative you are, I cannot sew a button on to save my life...... mind you i am a mighty fine cook so my lot say they won'put me out to pasture just yet. ;D

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The Tudors / Re: Anne Boleyn
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:53:28 AM »
It was Anne's volitility and sexual magnetism that surely drew Henry towards her. it would (imho) have been against her very nature to have become meek and totally submissive. Jane Seymour played a clever game by being the opposite of Anne -White to Anne's black. Honey to Anne's vinegar.Poor Anne, she could see what was coming but, but she was absolutely powerless to stop it-no amount of feigned meekness on her part would produce the boy who would be her saviour.

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The Tudors / Re: Lady Jane Grey
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:43:36 AM »
Jane Grey was a young intellectual who found it difficult to believe that she was ever wrong or that her opinions were not shared by others. Her intense Protestantism ruled her life but she was a victim of Northumberlands plot to maintain the Reformation n England.IMHO i think she entirely believed God meant her to be Queen so she was quite the willing participant in Northumberlands scheming. I think she would have ended up burning as many religious opponants as Mary did given half the chance.

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The Tudors / Re: Books/Movies on the Tudors and Plantagenets
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:33:36 AM »
Oooops I have got Marie Louise Bruce's book on Anne Boleynthats been on my shelf for 30 years not the Erickson one. Also got a very good biog.of Elizabeth Woodville by Baldwin which has some very interesting appendices at the back. Particularly the fate of the Princes and also the Woodvilles and witchcraft. Oh boy, do I need my holiday 8)

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The Tudors / Re: The Woodville Clan
« on: July 18, 2005, 02:49:05 AM »
Arianwen, my list is the same as yours.Katherine Woodville had 5 children with Henry Stafford, their daughter Elizabeth,who married the Earl of Sussex, was the first recorded mistress of Henry 8 ;)

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The Tudors / Re: Owen Tudor
« on: July 17, 2005, 05:07:34 PM »
Yeah great, try We Speak No Treason too  ;)Whoops .....book thread

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The Tudors / Re: Books/Movies on the Tudors and Plantagenets
« on: July 17, 2005, 05:05:43 PM »
We recently had a two part tv series about henry 8  over here withRay Winstone as your main man. It was ok but he had this "cor blimey Mary Poppins"type cockney accent which was hilarious....Unintentionally  ;D

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The Tudors / Re: Owen Tudor
« on: July 17, 2005, 04:45:09 PM »
There is a really well researched (fiction) book aout this by, I think, Rosemary Hawley Jarman. Unfortunately, my copy fell in the bath when i was reading it and it got totally wrecked. Cannot remember what it was called but her depiction of Katherine's mad father was excellent. The poor man thought he was made of glass.Anyone help me out here,i really want to read it again.

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The Tudors / Re: Books/Movies on the Tudors and Plantagenets
« on: July 17, 2005, 04:39:27 PM »
Old book but Carolly Erickson's Anne Boleyn has been on my bookshelf for almost 30 years.I also have SIX WIVES OF HENRY 8  by Antonia Fraser, Alison Weir and David Starkey.The 1970 BBC serial with Keith Michell is good and available on DVD at Amazon(etc) I loved Anne of the 1000 days with Genevieve Bujold but has there been any thing recent thats decent film wise?

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The Tudors / Re: Anne Boleyn
« on: July 17, 2005, 03:13:19 PM »
Hi there,I have always pondered wether Anne was RH  negative so that after the birth of a first healthy child she became "sensitised" and her blood cells "attacked" every foetus she carried from then on. So she never really stood a chance. Of course,these days RH negative mums get an injection of Anti- D after the birth  of each child thus preventing the problem. ( well thats my two penny worth anyway)

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Or gas (and i am NOT being facetious)

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Hi Bear, do we know what these Mystic Signs mean regards Kim

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Maybe they chewed their nails........ disgusting, but oh so gratifying ;D

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The Tudors / Re: Tudor Queens
« on: July 14, 2005, 08:56:15 AM »
I feel that Mary was a deeply damaged and flawed woman and i pity her.Her tragic childhood and lonely teenage years are unenviable. Elizabeth's childhood was also poor but i think she had a tougher personality whichmeant shecould cope better with life. IMHO i feel that "evil"  is a powerful word -Hitler was evil and I dont class Mary as evil.As for religious intolerance/fanaticism - will we ever be free of it?

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