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Balkan Royal Families / Re: Prince Alexander of Battenberg/Bulgaria
« on: September 04, 2010, 04:14:34 PM »

Id like to inform you that there will be an Exhibition on Alexander von Battenberg at Schloss Heiligenberg on the 18. & 19. September 2010. For more information you can click on the following link:

The Verkehrs,-und Verschönerungsverein Jugenheim will be the host. The main exhibition, which will be given to us from the Bulgarian Embassy is about Sandros years in Bulgaria. We, the VVJ will add material which emphasises on Sandros life before and after Bulgaria.
There will also be a little cultural program and a buffet.

Maybe there are some Bulgarian Forum members that live in Germany, you are welcome to visit.

Greetings from Germany

To all the German members of the forum, and of course everyone who lives in the vicinity of Jugenheim/Darmstadt:

Id like to inform you that there will be an Exhibition on Alexander von Battenberg at Schloss Heiligenberg on the 18. & 19. September 2010. For more information you can click on the following link:

The Verkehrs,-und Verschönerungsverein Jugenheim will be the host. The main exhibition, which will be given to us from the Bulgarian Embassy is about Sandros years in Bulgaria. We, the VVJ will add material which emphasises on Sandros life before and after Bulgaria.
There will also be a little cultural program and a buffet.

The Broadlands Archives will stay at the University of Southampton- Hartley Library! They raised the money they needed. I received a letter today from Prof. Woolgar who informed me about this. I am so happy!!

I found this article and copied it so you can read more about this success.

Thanks to everyone who helped!

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Hello everyone

I've posted the same info on the Windsor Thread, but I think it is a very important to share this. The Broadlands Archiv contains very much information about the Battenberg and also the Hessen-Darmstadt Family. I visited the Archiv in 2007, it would be a shame if all the Documents would be sold to different places/people. This is what I understand what the Trustees want to do. Does anyone know who is on the Board of Trustees?

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Serge, Ella, Henri, Irene and Ludwig

left to right:  Serge, Ella, Ludwig von Battenberg, Victoria von Hessen/Battenberg  and father in law Grandduke Ludwig IV. Picture was taken November 1883.
But on Ella I'm not 100 % sure, since Serge sits next to her we automatically think it is Ella, but if you look closely at the features it also could be Irene - the eyes. But the shape of the Lips/smile would be Ella which I think is more possible.

Like I posted above, there will be a little tour around the grounds of the Schloß. The Schloß will NOT be opened!!. Last Year visitors came and thought that there would be a tour in Schloß Heiligenberg. But this is not the case. Maybe we will have a few pictures put up which show one or two rooms and their interior design. If everything works out the way I'd like it to be, there will be also very interesting Pictures shown which I found at Broadlands Archiv (copies) and from the Historical Sociaty of Jugenheim.  I don't want to promise too much, but it should be slightly different than last year!!

If anyone lives nearby you can visit Schloß Heiligenberg on Sunday, 14th September. Due to the "Tag des offenen Denkmals" (translated it would mean something like "Day of the national Monuments ?!") there will be a tour each hour around the grounds of Schloß Heiligenberg, the Mousoleum will be opend.  Start 14.00 Uhr - 18.00 Uhr.

Looking forward to that book. Hope it will be a success for both of you, after all the work and dedication you have put in there.

The cake was crated by Princess Beatrice, she was the one married to Liko (Heinrich von Battenberg). This is what I learned about the cake. I discovered it in a baking book a few years ago. Her it stated that it was created due to the wedding of Beatrice and Liko. Last year a tourguide at Osborne House told me that Beatrice "created" the cake. She was very into baking and cooking.

I don't think that the checks are a sympol for louis, Sandro, Liko and Franz-Jos and Marie the marzipan Icing!!! (but what an idea). My thought is, that it symbols the hessian colores red and white. I could imagin that Beatrice was always dedicated to Hessen and especially after Liko had died so early.

I have baked the cake twice, it is a little work and very sweet (sponge cake 2 colores red and white and the whole sponge part wraped in marzipan) easier way -  You can buy the cake in the Supermarket, forgot the name of the Company that makes them. The smaller ones taste more like the original, the big one-pack offer doesn't tast as good. This is what I found out about the cake last year on our family and my research holiday in Lymington/Southampton.

The Wittlesbachs / Re: Charles August of Zweibrucken
« on: August 07, 2008, 03:06:07 AM »
They knew from each other. Caroline was the Oberhofmeisterin, don't know what it is called in english, maybe head lady in waiting? She took care of the "household" so I think they lived at least for a while under one roof until Caroline got married to Freiherr von Esebeck. Caroline is also known as  Freiherrin Caroline von Esebeck.
Amalie didn't treat Caroline very well, this is what I read. But I just think both women where forced into their positions, well sort of. So they had to make the best of it.

The Wittlesbachs / Re: Charles August of Zweibrucken
« on: August 05, 2008, 03:45:07 AM »
You're welcome!

The Wittlesbachs / Re: Charles August of Zweibrucken
« on: August 03, 2008, 01:01:00 PM »
Thanks for your replies.  :)

So, he had one child then. As far as I  know, his wife was around 11 years younger than he was and I'm surprised they didn't have more children. She was also the choice of bride by the Dauphine Maria Josepha for her son, the future Louis XVI, who married Marie Antoinette.  I also read that he was eccentric and built this great palace (Karlsberg Palace) yet he wanted to be alone and hated people being around. Can anyone confirm his eccentricity and how was it manifested, if true?

Karl II August von Pfalz-Zweibrücken was a difficult character, this is what I remember reading about him. His parents didn't have a happy marriage. His uncle Herzog Christian IV von Zweibrücken thought that Karl was very stubborn and complicated. As Karl grew older there relationship became a bit better. After Christian IV died, Karl II August (as heir to Zweibrücken) refused to acceppt the morganetic marriage of Christian and his wife Marie of Forbach (Marianne Camasse). 

Resently I read about a Caroline Augusta Freiin Gayling von Altheim (1748-1823), she was the  longtime "grande maitresse" of Karl. As a young man Karl II August tried everything to marry her, because he loved her, but his relatives wouldn't allow it.  He had her marry 1776 Ludwig Freiherr von Esebeck, later 'secretary of staat' of Zweibrücken.  If you live in Zweibrücken his name should ring a bell. As of 1778 Caroline was the Obersthofmeisterin (Chief Lady in waiting in english ?!) to Herzogin Maria Amalia, the woman Karl had to marry. It was said that Karl respected Maria Amalia, but could not love her. Caroline had to stay in Karl and Maria Amalias Household, in later years she wanted to retire, but Karl refused to let her go.   

If you can read german I would suggest to get the book: Der Herzog und die Tänzerin. Die merkwürdige Geschichte Christians IV von Zweibrücken.   written by Prinz Adalbert von Bayern 1966.  You should be able to purchase it through Eurobooks or Antiquario. If not you should go to a library and lend it through "fernleihe". Karl is discribed through the eyes of his uncle. The sad story of his mistress is from another source - Letters from Salome von Gelieu.

You also should get information about Karl in the Zweibrücker Stadtmuseum. But it could depent on the exhibition they have. I think they have more info on his father Friedrich Michael, younger brother of Christian.

Hope this gives you a little more information.

hallo Alixa...

1. According to Kyrills memoirs "My life in Russia's service" they have met on previous occations in 1896, 1897, 1899 and in 1900.  (got this from the Victoria Melitta book by van der Kiste. Here is also a quotation on Hannah Pakulas Book 'The last romantic' which says that they've been in love even before Victorias Wedding to Ernst-Ludwig)

Hallo Riedelsel

1.  Besides Prince Philipp the children and grandchildren of Lord Mountbatten (Lady Patricia Mountbatten - Her Son Lord Braeburn) would also be in the "blood line" - same relation to Hessen-Darmstadt as Prince Philipp. Lord Mountbatten was visiting Darmstadt frequently until his death 1979. e.g. visiting former servants from Heiligenberg. Prince Philipp was here 2 years ago with Prince Edward and Sofie and others, visiting Schloß Heiligenberg.

2. I didn't mean to sound too ironic in my last posting. I can understand why you posted this encounter, I would have done the same. It just made me think of an article I read recently in the papers, about several accusations Dodi's father made on Prince Philipp. And through my research on the Battenberg Family I have a different view on things because you know certain facts/dates etc. 

1. Why was the little boy replace by a stillborn child?!  So in your friends opinion, this is how I understand it, the boy then whould have been a child of Kyrill?  Is this what he meant?

2. You mean Louise von Battenberg (Mountbatten) the Aunt of Prince Philipp, who was married to the King of Sweden whould have been the heir.

3. Prinz Phillip - It seams to me that your "Gentlemen" is a friend of Dodi's Father....always accusing Prince Philipp of weard things. Maybe he really had an encounter with his personel guards, because he started stalking members of the royal family!

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