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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria
« on: April 09, 2010, 06:35:54 PM »
Toria's cousin, then. What year was that, do you know?
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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria
« on: April 09, 2010, 06:23:01 PM »Regarding Max of Baden wanting to marry Toria in 1896. He came to see Empress Maria Feodorovna who wrote to Alix,
" Max of Baden asked to see me alone as he had something about which he wanted to talk to me, and imagine what it was. He asked if I believed he could have any hope of marrying your charming Toria. Naturally in a very modest way, he expressed himself as realising what a sacrifice it would be for her and a sorrow for you. I answered that I knew nothing at all about this and could not give him the slightest hope- only write to you about it. What answer you then would give me, I would let him know through his mother Maroussy (Maria of Leuchtenberg). I merely said to him that I knew for certain that she would never live in Berlin or Potsdam, to which he replied that yes, I know, and he would immediately leave it to go to Baden.
I am quite unhappy at having to give you this unpleasantness, to write all this, which I know will upset you, my poor angel Alix, but what was I to do, he so asked me, and he is, you know, such a nice, good-looking and distinguished young man of whom I am very fond, and who would probably be able to make a very good husband if she could love him. But that is the question. He is naturally waiting impatiently for an answer-through me".
Unfortunately I don't know Alix reply.
Interesting. This was the same Max of Baden who had been engaged to marry Elena of Russia ( cousin of Nicholas II), and it was then broke off? I assume so. I believe he eventually married elsewhere, but I can't remember who just now.
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The Yussupovs / Re: Princess Irina Yusupova,nee Romanova - discussion and pictures
« on: April 09, 2010, 05:21:21 PM »
Not the greatest painting, but I see a resemblence to Irina, I think it was intended to be her. The painting makes her look way too old. I see more of a resemblence to her cousin Olga N than Tatiana N here, but I agree when she had that hairstyle in photos she really looked like Tatiana.
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Their World and Culture / Re: Russian Morgantic Marriages
« on: February 10, 2010, 10:42:08 PM »
The category of 'likely to succeed' was more rigid than in the days of Peter the Great, where a successor was chosen by the Emperor. It really wasn't whomever the Emperor decided.The morgantic children of IF members could never take the throne though or be in the line of sucession, nor could morgantic wives be recognized as Empress, or Grand Duchess, etc. This was one way of restricting the succession.
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The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:17:48 PM »
Since she had basically no choice but to leave Lennart in Sweden when she divorced Wilhelm, it's hard to know how maternal she was, truly, although she doesn't seem to have been maternal. Her other child with her second husband, also a boy, died as an infant. But had that child lived, he would likely have been with his mother ( Marie P) more, since his father was a Russian noble, not royalty from another country. She and her second husband divorced, but I think she would have seen more of that son. She doesn't seem to have been all that maternal, but I think we could judge that better if her other son had lived to grow up, she never lived with one of her children when they were growing up. I can't recall how old Lennart was when she divorced Wilhelm off the top of my head, but he was pretty young, I believe. Her marriage with Wilhem was another typical royal marriage, not one like Nicholas and Alexandra's, and it isn't surprising it failed, it wasn't a love match. Her second marriage underwent the stress of the Revolution and the death of a child, and given those events, it isn't surprising that marriage failed either. I wonder if her son from that marriage had lived, if the marriage would have fallen apart. So I don't think we can judge her on the basis of having a few failed marriages, or of her leaving Lennart in Sweden.
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Having Fun! / Re: The Romanov You Dislike
« on: January 17, 2010, 09:34:56 AM »'In reply to Kalafrana, Catharine the Great's reign did see the death of Ivan VI, but more than likely this would have happened anyway, as he had long been seen as a threat to the reigning ruler.'
Entirely true, but it doesn't make me like Catherine any better.
Ann
I think Catharine was a good ruler for that time in Russia, although her personality apart from what she did as a ruler I don't care for as much. I have an in between opinion on her. She was preferable to any other female ruler Russia ever had, like Elizabeth or Catharine I. She was a very intelligent woman, certainly, and was thrust into difficult circumstances and in those difficult circumstances felt her only way out was to have Peter III murdered. Being in a position of power in Russia in those days was never for the faint of heart. I wouldn't say I am a big fan of Catharine though.
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Maria Nicholaievna / Re: red or blonde or...
« on: January 17, 2010, 04:58:37 AM »
There was a thread on the Anastasia forum a few years ago that talked about the rat, the hairpiece. I just posted to it again, so people can read it.
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Having Fun! / Re: The Romanov You Dislike
« on: January 01, 2010, 12:44:46 AM »
In reply to Kalafrana, Catharine the Great's reign did see the death of Ivan VI, but more than likely this would have happened anyway, as he had long been seen as a threat to the reigning ruler. Elizabeth's reign originally saw him imprisoned after all. Catharine's regime being not the legitimate sucession, the threat of Ivan VI seemed more of a threat and stricter orders were given as regards him, but Ivan VI was always a threat.
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The Final Chapter / Re: Captivity photo's
« on: December 19, 2009, 03:01:48 AM »
I mean the Tsarksoe Selo pic of the girls taken shortly after they had measles.
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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Letters from Tatiana
« on: December 19, 2009, 01:25:54 AM »I believe the story about tatiana being in America was in the New York Times. Apparantly she was doing the rounds lecturing on the Revolution!So did Tatiana read of it from a New York Times clipping? Or did she read of it in a clipping from a Russian newspaper reporting info The New York Times said originally? I am unclear on this point.
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The Yussupovs / Re: Princess Irina Yusupova,nee Romanova - discussion and pictures
« on: December 19, 2009, 01:12:31 AM »
Irina's expression in this picture can perhaps be explained by the fact that she's getting out of a car and it seems she's looking ahead at something. Her eyes aren't looking at the camera in this picture. It's not a posed picture. Also, it was at her grandmother's memorial service that this picture was taken, so it is to be expected that her expression is solemn in this picture. These factors seem to maybe explain away her "strange" expression. I don't believe I had seen this picture before. It's always interesting to see new pictures.
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The Final Chapter / Re: Captivity photo's
« on: December 18, 2009, 11:49:59 PM »
That one of OTMA is such a sad picture.Who took it anyway? The girls look so alike in this pic.Could someone explain who is who to me? I believe Anastasia is the one on the right though.I do not recall seeing this picture before.
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The Final Chapter / Re: Maria or Anastasia?
« on: November 05, 2009, 06:21:45 PM »
I'm honestly not sure which girl is which. But if the bones of the GD who was a carrier of hemophilia are those of Marie, it wouldn't surprise me since she did have that operation where she bled a lot, perhaps a sign of a hemophilia carrier. I tend to be convinced the remains from the 1st grave are those of Marie. Thanks for the link to the article, Janet. I hadn't been able to access the article on the other link.
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The Hesse-Darmstadts (Hesse and by Rhine) / Re: George 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven (Battenberg) and Nadejda (Nada) de Torby
« on: November 05, 2009, 06:11:21 PM »
As I recall, Gloria Vanderbilt jr may have mentioned Nada and her mother in her autobiography, the first one, Once upon a time- I know it was either in that book or it was in her second book Black Knight, White Knight, or maybe both that she mentioned her mother and Nada. I should look up again what she had to say about her mother and Nada.
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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra - Slandered and Hated
« on: October 27, 2009, 09:54:32 PM »
Ella was more laid back than Alexandra who was a far more rigid person. Although Ella was very religious like Alexandra, Ella was religious in a constructive way, unlike Alexandra with regards to Rasputin and other men like him. Ella had more common sense than Alexandra. She would have been easier to know. She just seems more down to earth, and obviously had better judgment. So yes, I do prefer Ella to Alexandra. I think both sisters were pretty, but that Ella's beauty lasted longer than Alexandra's beauty did.