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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana Nikolaevna & Dmitri Malama

« on: September 29, 2005, 11:01:55 AM »

Please scan that article! This so interesting. It is nice to know that Tatiana who was always rather cold and reserved had some sort of romantic interest and that it was this guy, who seems so interesting.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana resembles Alix?

« on: September 28, 2005, 11:05:37 AM »

I believe that Tatiana's exoctic features were from her father's side. The rest of her was a mix. She looked so much like her aunt Xzenia. I believe that these looks go back to the dowager empress Marie. Anastasia resembled her father's side most, especially her aunt Olga. I think these looks come from Alexander III.  Grand Duchess Olga N. was both, a perfect mix. Tsarvitch Alexei is hard to judge.. he was so young, but more than likely both with more of his mother's side.Grand Duchess Marie's colouring and facial features seem to come from her mother, but otherwise she takes squarely after the Romanovs. Indeed, Nicholas and Alexandra had beautiful children. Otma were beauties, every last one, in every photo from early childhood to young adulthood. The photos just blow you away. Tsarvitch Alexei was such a cute little boy!

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana's Name

« on: September 28, 2005, 10:53:35 AM »

It is a lovely name, and it well suited her. I have always heard and believed that it was because of Pushkin's Eugene Onegin, that she had that name. But I never heard the part where Olga had her name too because of that. I always thought Olga had her name because it was a family name. My favorite Romanov name is Tatiana, and it was one of my favorite Russian names. The english version isn't half as lovely as the Russian.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana's attitude?

« on: September 28, 2005, 10:45:21 AM »

I think Tatiana had a good attitude, I think she was responsible and did her duty. She could be reserved, or distant but that was just her personality. She could be described as haughty, but I think she was just being Imperial.  Like her mother, her demeanor could be misinterpreted. She does not have much you can relate to her today about.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana and Boris of Bulgaria

« on: September 27, 2005, 11:45:52 AM »

Tatiana was not a real romantic type, and probably would have been happy enough to have married someone she was supposed to marry, doing her duty. It is not thought that there was anyone she ever truly entertained the idea of marriage with, or had a crush on. I am sure she would have liked love in a marriage, but it is hard to know how soon she would have found someone to marry. If she had, I am sure he would have been entirely suitable, her mind and heart thinking. I don't know anything about Boris of Bulgaria, but if anyone knows more about him by all means post it !

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: What kind of student?

« on: September 27, 2005, 11:40:28 AM »

Tatiana was practical, the type of person who learns more from the world than from books. She was intelligent but not in a intellectual way. She seems to have done well, but not spectacular in her formal studies. She did just as much as she had to, and then she started to deal with real life more. If she had had to have more formal education to get by in life, as so many people have to do today, she would have done it and been passable. I don't think she would ever have enjoyed it though. All the records are is that she was dutiful, did a decent job, but no more than that.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Seen as unlovable?

« on: September 27, 2005, 11:34:10 AM »

Perhaps she is sometimes seen that way. She wasn't a cold person just unemotional. Emotions weren't her strong suit. She doesn't give you anything you can empathize with. You can't really relate to her, in a real way. She was beautiful, and liked clothes and and such. She was practical, and got things done. You can admire her, as I do, but not really relate to her. She can be loved, but she can't be related to.
So, that can limit the ability of one to relate to her, or love her.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana's Necklace

« on: September 27, 2005, 11:29:14 AM »

It would be nice if someone could sort this topic out. I would love to know if the necklace Tatiana wears in the photo is her own or merely a family necklace she put on for the formal photos. Tatiana would turned 16 by 1913, this could have been her necklace.  But it looks to be only diamonds, not pearls .Wherever it was from it was beautiful!

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: The Enigmatic Tatiana

« on: September 26, 2005, 10:37:08 AM »

Tatiana was a mystery; she was someone who is hard to relate to and understand, by the standards of now, when we live in a very emotional society, but also by the standards of her far more repressed era. She was not an emotional person; or if she was it doesn't seem so from the records. She didn't let it show, perhaps. She did have a kind of bland personality in that she is pretty much a certain set of things and doesn't go much beyond that. She was practical, and devoted to duty/ responsibility. I would say she was very old school royalty, in that she was not the kind of person who would follow her personal desires at the expense of the country's.

She was the not the Princess Diana kind of royalty, but she was very regal and no doubt, she would have found herself at home with her relative Queen Elizabeth II. I think they have much in common. They both are people who might seem bland, but who just hold very high standards in duty and responsibility. They both get the job done, in ways that might seem callous to more emotional people. That, however, to them is just being effiicient.
Tatiana was very beautifu, but somehow her looks which were very unique, don't match her personality in that it was pretty plain.
Just my opinion.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Why Tatiana?

« on: September 23, 2005, 10:47:44 AM »

Tatiana was beautuful and exoctic, as lovely as her name that was typical in Russia but not within the Romanov family. She was very beautiful, with looks that are not conventional beauty but are certainly beautiful. She has always reminded me of Angelina Jolie's looks. Her personality was that she was practical, and level headed a no nonsense person who got things done, and was not dragged down by her emotions, like Olga could be. She was intelligent , but not that interested in Intellectual things. She was religious, and probably a quiet person who focused on family duties. I have always admired her looks, but I find her personality difficult to relate to.If she had survived the Revolution, perhaps with her practical nature she would have functioned best in the world.

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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: About that wig!

« on: September 23, 2005, 10:38:10 AM »

The wig did not look good on Tatiana, but short hair did. She looked fantastic with bobbed hair such as she had in 1914. If only she had kept her hair this way and not allowed it grow long again. At the time of her death her hair was probably fairly short, but not as short as the 1914 pictures because it had been over a year since her head was shaved. IN 1918, long hair was still the vogue, but if Tatiana had lived into the 1920s, her hair would probably have been short and she would have looked very nice.

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Did Olga have Depression?

« on: September 23, 2005, 10:20:17 AM »

I don't think Olga did if clinical depression is what you are talking about. Almost certainly, that was never the case. If you are saying that she was depressed in the sense that she was sad and moody sometimes this is true, and would have been more so after the Revolution. Olga was always one to think deeply about things, as anyone familiar with the Romanovs knows. Olga was very depressed  in the few months before their deaths no doubt, in that she was sad and moody. The revolution greatly affected her, and both her appearance and personality changed much at this time.

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Tsarina Olga!?!?

« on: September 22, 2005, 11:11:10 AM »

I think Olga would have made a good Tsarina if the laws had allowed this. She was intelligent, was better informed than her sisters, could be even better informed if need be. She was not much worse educated than Nicholas, even though to be a 20th century Russian Ruler, it would have been better to have a more extensive education than she had. She was thoughtful, and sensitive. So she might have been thoughtful and sensitive to the needs of the Russian People. With age and experience, I feel she could have been as good a ruler as any other female ruler who did a good job in history.

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: SI?

« on: September 22, 2005, 10:54:01 AM »

No, Olga was almost certainly not a self injurer. For her time and background, that would have been unacceptable whether anyone found out about it or not. To Olga herself it would not probably not have been acceptable either. Everything around her had never conditioned her to do this, at all. If Olga were alive today, and the situation happened today, she might have cut herself, though. It would be a consideration given her serious, depressed personality at the time. This thread I enjoyed though because it raises interesting questions. I think Olga's state of mind was that she was depressed and lost weight because of this, quite a bit of weight. That's just my opinion.

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Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga's official suitors, marriage prospects, and proposals

« on: September 22, 2005, 10:43:29 AM »

Carol and Olga would not have been at all compatible, it would probably have ended like his evetual marriage to Helen of Greece ended. A look at his later life is enough to know that. Nicholas and Alexandra had a lot of common sense when they didn't push this match through. World war or no world war, Carol and Olga would not have married. But if they did, it would probably have been a disaster.