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The Tudors / Re: Anne Boleyn
« on: March 23, 2009, 05:17:52 PM »
her father whose memory was highly regarded by his subjects .

For some reason!

The Tudors / Re: Anne Boleyn
« on: March 18, 2009, 06:42:57 PM »
Elizabeth certainly enjoyed referring to herself as 'Great Harry's Daughter' while she was queen. We'll probably never know what she really thought about Anne. After Henry's death, it was in Elizabeth's interest to remind everyone that she was Henry's daughter, without mentioning Anne, who was regarded variously as a witch, an 'adventuress' and an adulteress. Being Henry's daughter was an advantage; being Anne's daughter was not, from a political point of view, something to be particularly proud of. It should be remembered though that when she became queen she treated her Boleyn relatives - particularly Catherine and Henry Carey, Mary Boleyn's children - quite well, so she must have felt some sort of familial feeling towards them.

The Tudors / Re: 'The Sisters who would be Queen'
« on: February 12, 2009, 04:10:35 PM »
I was in England recently, so I bought the book there and finished it on the plane home. It's quite a good read, and de Lisle definitely puts a different spin on the traditional interpretation of Jane and especially of her mother Frances Brandon. There's also lots of stuff about Katherine and Mary Grey I didn't know. My only critiscism would be poor editing - at one point Lady Margaret Douglas is described as Mary Queen of Scots' 'cousin' (whereas she was in fact her aunt, as the family tree in the book shows!). That irritated me a bit, and so did de Lisle's propensity to repeat things about certain people over and over again, especially things like 'Francis Newdigate, Hertford's father-in-law' and 'Lady Arundell, who had been Mary's childhood friend Margaret Willoughby' . . . this is ok once or twice, but when it happens about three times a chapter you feel like shouting 'yes, I bloody know that Francis Newdigate was Hertford's father-in-law!!!!' Apart from that it's a good read though, not quite as good as her first book 'After Elizabeth' (in my opinion) but still not bad at all!

The Tudors / Re: Genealogy
« on: August 12, 2008, 06:33:04 PM »
I highly doubt I am . . . as far back as I can trace my ancestors were 100% Irish!

The Windsors / Re: Princess Charlotte, George IV's daughter
« on: June 24, 2008, 11:12:19 AM »
I think her grandparents were her official guardians. She found her aunts, the Prince Regent's many spinster sisters, very dull and suspected they reported all her misdemeanours to her father . . . I seem to remember reading that she found Princess Elizabeth particularly sly in this respect. National mourning on her death has been said to have been as hysterical and upon the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.

The Tudors / Re: Edward II
« on: February 19, 2008, 04:58:01 PM »
Alianore, who posts here occasionally, worte an informative article about this on her excellent Edward II blog.

The Windsors / Re: Movies about the British Royal family
« on: February 18, 2008, 04:49:27 PM »
I'm interested by your opinions, tsaria. I watched 2 episodes of the Palace, and while I found it moderately entertaining, I also thought it was very over the top, particularly the idea of the King's sister wanting to get rid of him. That said, maybe I should've given it more of a chance - if only I had more control over what gets put on TV in my house!

The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: Charles I and family
« on: January 01, 2008, 02:58:05 PM »
She seemed like a very brave girl - the burden of 'looking after' Henry must have been felt very keenly by her after Charles's execution, or even before. I imagine religion was a great comfort to her.

The Tudors / Re: New Showtime series about the Tudors
« on: December 27, 2007, 05:10:15 PM »
Dunno if 'heights' is quite the right word there Helen! :D

The Tudors / Re: Education of Elizabeth I
« on: November 12, 2007, 07:38:24 AM »
Well, she would have spoken Spanish to her brother-in-law.  Mary probably spoke Spanish to Philip as well, come to think of it.  I wonder if her mother, Catherine of Aragon, taught her Spanish.  I'm thinking the Greek was more for reading old texts in the original language than for conversing. 
Catherine did teach Mary Spanish, but I've also read that by the time Mary was an adult, she could understand Castellano (the Spanish Philip spoke) but couldn't speak it herself. It'd be quite strange if Elizabeth could speak Spanish but Mary couldn't! I think Philip and Mary mostly spoke to each other in French. Do you know anything about Mary's level of Spanish, umigon? I know it's off topic, but humour me for a moment. ;)

The Windsors / Re: Prince Henry/Prince Harry of Wales
« on: November 12, 2007, 07:35:27 AM »
I think that this is true, but then again it sounds to me like a rumour.
What exactly do you mean? You think it's true, but you also think it's a rumour? ;-)

The Windsors / Re: King George III, his Queen Charlotte and their family
« on: October 07, 2007, 04:38:24 PM »
Hi Lenelor, I was just wondering where did you read about Amelia being called 'Emily'? I know that George II called his daughter Amelia Emily, but I didn't know George III did the same! Who's your favourite of the princesses? I've always had a soft spot for Augusta, and Mary.

By the by, she was never a 'Georgian princess', but does anyone know anything about the character of Lady Cecilia Underwood, the Duke of Sussex's second wife? Queen Victoria must have been fond of her - she made her Duchess of Inverness in 1840. Then again, Uncle Sussex was her favourite uncle, so that might be why.

The Tudors / Re: Elizabeth (with Blanchett) Part II--The Golden Age
« on: August 27, 2007, 08:10:31 AM »
The only film about Elizabeth I that came close to getting it right was the Glenda Jackson one...

A certain lovely person (who knows who she is ;D) got me the Glenda Jackson series on DVD for my birthday, I look forward to watching it!

Liam, enjoy! I think you will like it. Happy b-day! And Kim, you're an angel :-)

Thanks Helen! I intend to curl up with it tonight and watch as much as I can!

The Tudors / Re: Elizabeth (with Blanchett) Part II--The Golden Age
« on: August 24, 2007, 12:51:32 PM »
The only film about Elizabeth I that came close to getting it right was the Glenda Jackson one...

A certain lovely person (who knows who she is ;D) got me the Glenda Jackson series on DVD for my birthday, I look forward to watching it!

The Tudors / Re: Romance between Elizabeth of York and Richard III?
« on: July 22, 2007, 09:12:20 AM »
I agree with Terence. In Sharon Penman's 'the Sunne in Splendour' she depicts Elizabeth as having feelings for her uncle, but as far as I know it's all romantic invention - I don't think anything is known about their actual relationship, if any.

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