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The Russian Revolution / Re: The Return of Communism!?
« on: April 23, 2005, 01:39:39 AM »
A visit to Russia would really pay off huge dividends for many.  Speaking to the ordinary people there would lead you to some very different conclusions.

Communism is in no danger of returning.  Those who support the Communists are mostly the elderly and dissafected, who have no political muscle.  The idea of them trying to rig elections is laughable.

The Communists in their old form are a spent force.  Politics in Russia have moved on and now the real danger lies elsewhere - specifically in nationalist groups and to some extent in the blind politics of the current regime.

The Russian Revolution / Re: anti-tsar card
« on: April 11, 2005, 10:21:23 AM »

the vast majority of 1905 cards were actually produced in Russia itself, though some (esp. early bolshevik ones) were produced in Geneva and Germany.  It is not beyond the realms of possibilty that some were produced in France, though I have not yet seen or read anything that would confirm this.  Wd be interested if you had any further info.

The Russian Revolution / Re: anti-tsar card
« on: April 11, 2005, 02:30:10 AM »

The one that was posted was not mine, but your enthusiasm is greatly appreciated.

I started collecting them about five years ago when I used to pick them up while trying to develop a collection of Revolutionary ephemera.  Since then I have found them in all sorts of places, but mostly in Russia and the Baltics.

The 1905 cards are becoming really quite hard to come accross now, especially the obviously illegal ones depicting the Tsar.  With regard to posting some pix, I will do my best - I have a couple with me here, but am afraid the majority of my collection is back home in England, so it may be a while before I am able to do so.


I think you're mistaken about his support being demonstrably shallow.  He still retains extremly widespread support throughout the country, support that really wouldn't just disappear overnight in the event of a crisis.  As for the pensioner's demos, this is no proof of falling support as most of them voted for good old Mr Zyuganov anyway.

As for the President himself, well I could talk all day about him, but let's just say that everything I have seen points to the fact that he is a man way out of his depth who has no solution to the deep problems Russia is facing.

This surface deep overlap between the French and the Russian Revolutionary struggles was not lost on the Bolsheviks who constantly evoked the similarities between the Russian Revolution and the French one (and for that matter the later Paris Commune), in much of their propaganda.  See the film New Babylon or various ROSTA posters for evidence of this.

Interestingly the Bolsheviks also derived much of their revolutionary symbolism and pagentry from the French Revolution.  The ceremonial funerals of 'freedom fighters' are the most important examples of this influence, but there are many other examples, from postcards showing Marat etc. to the fantastic revolutionary porcelain of the SPF in Petersburg.

The Russian Revolution / Re: Whites Vs Reds The Civil War
« on: April 10, 2005, 02:06:53 PM »
Many thanks Rskkiya for your welcome, I shall look forward to participating.

Perhaps a little late in replying, but in response to Bear's query, it is worth mentioning that the recent pension reforms were not intended to cut back on the benefits that the pensioners received per se, but about reforming an antiquated system left over from the former Soviet Union.  

Put simply, the reform aimed to replace the plethora of different benefits (free transport, medecine etc) that pensioners received, with simple cash payments.

The problem arose not because the policy was wrong, but because of poor of execution.  Poor execution in this case being the fact the government (through poor planning, rather than malice) seriously short changed the pensioners, leaving many with not enough to live off.

In response to Elisabeth's posting '' a very canny, able player in the game of international politics.''

What makes you believe this?  

The Russian Revolution / Re: Whites Vs Reds The Civil War
« on: April 10, 2005, 05:20:27 AM »
Please forgive my presumption in posting this reply but I have felt moved to write after having read through the maelstrom of posts.

On the subject of Brusilov and why he joined the Reds, Figes in The People's Tragedy writes that Brusilov remarked that although many people expected him to turn to the Whites (as he was a man from the upper echelons of society), he felt that the Russian people had chosen the reds, and therefore as a servant of Russia he believed that it was his duty to follow this wish.

For those of you who are interested in the terrible suffering wreaked upon Russia during the Civil War, and the brutalising effects of WW1, I recommend Night of Stone by Catherine Merridale.  An excellent book which shows a great understanding of Russia.

On the subject of why the Whites are so called, I have always understood that the name comes from the expression belaya kost' meaning blue blooded or aristocratic.

My frustration at the levels of ignorance of some members is thankfully tempered by the expertese and intelligence of others, so I am grateful to all those who have so much to offer.  Moglo byt' khuzhe, as they say.

The Russian Revolution / Re: anti-tsar card
« on: April 10, 2005, 05:06:27 AM »
Revolutionary postcards were were, along with Satirical journals, one of the most important forms of anti-Tsarist propaganda.  

A quite phenomenal amount of cards were published inside Russia both legally and illegally in the 1905-c1908.                              
I have a large collection of these rev. cards (and from 1917 and Civil War period) that I have been steadily collecting over the yearrs.

Apart from a few articles puiblished in Russian and brief mentions in English texts there is very little extant info on them.

It is such a great shame that the importance of these cards  has yet to be fully appreciated both artistically and historically.  

I have writtent various articles on them, but would be extremely interested if there are any other people who might have any further information, or indeed have any of their own cards to post.

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