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So it looks pretty similar to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_1WVM8I

The BBC's approach will be more like this below - this is the presenter of the new series in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSMIIVgrmJI

Yeah it looks like the Romanovs are getting the full Lucy Worsley treatment - see synopsis of final episode and three clips in the links below.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/03/romanov-russia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03chrtl

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So it looks pretty similar to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_1WVM8I

The BBC's approach will be more like this below - this is the presenter of the new series in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSMIIVgrmJI

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More specific information about the series in the link . Three hour long episodes .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/01/empire-of-tsars


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Maria Sisi -  We will get a better feel for the project closer to transmission. I wouldn't be expecting anything too cerebral or similar in tone to 'Russia's Lost Princesses' . I may be wrong but i suspect there will be endless shots of Worsley in magnificent palatial settings, maybe trying on 'Romanov clothes' , poking Faberge eggs, and somehow making the series more about herself and her eccentricities than about the Romanovs (that is what usually happens in Worsley documentaries). But its a matter of taste - the BBC adore her and presumably many find her style entertaining , so maybe I am in a minority and don't know a thing. I have only heard her wax lyrical on British history and its monarchy , so who knows what the approach will be like here . I will be watching it and hoping for the best like yourself . Rather something than nothing I say !

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I heard about this. Thrilling to see that its finally coming!

I hope the current political climate doesn't taint it though. Western documentaries on Russia in general tend to be slanted with a subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, over criticism. I don't want any sunshine and roses but it would be nice if they show some objectivity and realize they act a certain way because their ways, thought process, are different. It would be nice if they could put themselves in someone else's shoes and not judge by their standards which are different.

Don't count on it . I  suspect the series will  be worth watching if only for  being visually stunning (palaces , Faberge , etc) . Ideally I would have preferred other BBC stalwarts to have been involved  ; Helen Castor to present a History - she is a far more impartial and austere historian than Worsley ; and then Andrew Graham Dixon to present an 'Art of the Romanovs' documentary  - he is light years beyond Worsley in his appreciation of all things artistic. Still , beggars can't be choosers....

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There is a new BBC Four series beginning on January 6 , presented by UK historian Lucy Worsley entitled 'Empire of the Tsars ; Romanov Russia'.

Well, I suppose advertising is all about catchphrases, but lol - that title: 'Empire of the Tsars ; Romanov Russia' is not very novel. Worsley says she wants to tell the story of how "a single family" transformed Russia from a backward medieval country to a great power, but she could just as well have told the story of how the Romanovs became Holstein-Gottorps and tried to Germanize (i.e. Europeanize) Russia.

It's rather strange to speak of Russian Romanov family continuity when Peter III's Russian Romanov mother died when he was three months old and he grew up as a German.
Well let's wait and see , but if Worsley does not acknowledge just how German the house of Romanov became (OTMAA being 0.4 % Russian) , then she won't be the first or the last historian to do so. I think I wrote on 'Tatiana's Appearance' thread that emphasising , or even acknowledging, the Germanness of the IF is generally not on the agenda of most historians .

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There is a new BBC Four series beginning on January 6 , presented by UK historian Lucy Worsley entitled 'Empire of the Tsars ; Romanov Russia'. Not sure how many episodes there will be. There is a trailer on youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWnUMlHPRE
 










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Tatiana Nicholaievna / Re: Tatiana's Physical Appearance
« on: December 09, 2015, 05:36:59 AM »
I think we discussed it a lot of times. I've read she had an "Eastern exotic beauty", very Russian...But in fact, most of us noticed that she had a distinct ressemblance to her paternal Grandmother, the Empress Maria Alexandrovna, wife of Alexander II. Of course, she was not Russian, nor an exotic Eastern lady , but a German princess. She was born as Marie of Hesse , and if you look at hger closely, you'll see Tatiana's physical features on her.

RealAnastasia.
The girls had just 0.4 % Russian ancestry and around 98-99% German-Danish ancestry (mainly German). It would be highly improbable, if not impossible, for the girls to look  'Russian'.  I agree that if Tatiana looks like any relative it is her Danish grandmother, and she does have that highly 'Nordicised' look (which her sisters don't have) , and that accounts for her 'exotic' looks .Yet the subject of OTMA'S looks , and those of Tatiana in particular , are an area where common sense and logic appear to be jettisoned in favour of the romance , exoticism , mysticism and sense of 'otherness' that revolves around the Romanov story. Describing them as Germanic looking doesn't fit this narrative ; describing them as 'Slavic' , 'Asiatic', etc,  does.  A reading of Helen Rappaports descriptions of  OTMA's appearance in 'Ekaterinburg' and 'Four Sisters' is  disappointing in this respect , as surely we ought to be de-mythologizing the Romanovs  as much as we can - goodness knows there are enough myths surrounding the family already.

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