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The Imperial Family / Re: Health and Medical History of NAOTMAA
« on: August 28, 2005, 03:49:52 PM »
Dear Epfl1,

I understand in Russia, from olden times to even present day, many families shave the heads of their children. Moreso, it a common practice done to both girls and boys, and many shaved during the summer. I believe presently, its to strengthen the hair, so it may be more profuse. As a young boy in Russia, my father had it done to him. I'm only responding to allow you know it's not uncommon, even now days.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:53:32 PM »
To AlexP and All,

I wish to extend my apology[ies] if anyone has found my posting to be of upset. I've not wished to create any difficulty, nor offer harm to anyone, least of all create bad feelings. I have tried to stay objective, and supportive in memory to TIH, and to HIHA.

This website and all it's entries by global posters, have been the highlight of my every day. Perhaps when one cannot get out, one may become a bit to outspoken, and I may have been, and again apologize.

To AlexP, I apologize if I have upset you in any way.
I extend to you, and to all, an olive branch of peace. I hope that an olive branch of peace will continue to be offered amongst all threads on this website. It cannot be lesser.

We hardly know each other, and only as fellow posters. But even so, I have and will take the continued treasure of this website in a very serious way, because of the global offering it offers to one, to all of us in maintaining and creating a fellow appreciation of getting along together, and creating a bond that can go beyond time and space.

No matter if there is one iota of misunderstanding, we must as human beings continue to afford the true commonality of making sure, real communication does not die. Though we are not perfect, we all have hearts, and to that its important to recognize the 'feeling' part of life. I thank you all for your patience with me.

I thank you and wish you all the very best.I remain most


Tatiana [Tania]


I looked at your latest posting, and it again brought to mind the old saying, 'it takes a crook to outfox a crook'.
Only in this art exchange, "those outside of Russia were fully involved".

I wonder, did the museum, museum intermediaries really fully know what was transpiring in terms of 'corruption' ?

Greed, corruption, control, all that the grand soviets had accused HIH of, was and has at last been to leave to all historians, that they 'were the most disturbed political regime of all times'.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 26, 2005, 01:22:32 PM »
Hello Alex, Everyone,

Glad to be of assist, and I will hop on it right quick :)

It's very good to hear those here expressing for us to 'keep the human side in view of HIH'. I have mentioned this a few times here and on other places on this website. It's important that we keep this in full memory when speaking about any of their IH. Still, this is a particular discussion wherein we are at length discussing and or bringing up most relevant understandings of HIH 'medical problems'.

This is an objective fact finding mission, not an attack on HIH, God rest her soul. She was a human being first, last and always.

So many of you are just amazing in the way you find your material. For me, I personally know what it means not to really go out because of many disabling issues.
Sciatica is one of the many issues, and it is more than dibilatating, and painfilled.

Keep in mind, when one is addressing one issue of pain, and other physical features, it is both a mental and physical issue. One cannot divide the physical from the mental. Added to that the mental issues she faced as a child, up onto adulthood, it explains much.
Thanks again for allowing me to share my thoughts.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 26, 2005, 10:23:58 AM »
I want to underline the long term effect of taking drugs, and the combination of drugs. Alex, I think its very prudent that you have asked for an in depth assessment on 'bayer aspirin'.

Notice the pharamacology reports on 'aspirin'. I'm almost convinced, the dosage may have not at all set well with her system.  

How many drugs was she taking? Was there anything that may not have been stated she was taking?
Also, did she partake in drinking alcohol on these state occasions? The mixture alone is not good for anyone's system.

Does anyone know if she had gastro issues? Just a thought to ask. Thanks for allowing me to share.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 08:13:38 PM »
I believe that when when has abscesses on one's gums, it goes into the system as well, and poisons the blood system. I don't know how bad HIH abscess were, but this might not have been understood medically in terms of checking one's blood, and the correlation of it draining into the system, and poisoning it. This is why it might be important to see the medical reports again. Thanks again for allowing me to share. :)


The Final Chapter / Re: How did NAOTMAA die?
« on: August 25, 2005, 03:29:23 PM »
I've been thinking on the issue of parts of the bodies being severed, in particular, the feet. In those days, The IF I don't think had 'ready made shoes'. I believe they had shoes made expressly for each member of the family. I looked on the web and came across this explanation of feet and shoes fitting.

Perhaps the killers thought if their victims feet were missing, then the matching of shoes with feet would be inconclusive, added to the fact that their faces had been obliterated, etc. Sorry, probably grasping at straws :(


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 12:13:00 PM »

Great to have this information you so kindly provided. PTSD would probably be applicable to many of the members of the family who lost loved ones through a series of traumatic events, childhood to elderly.

For those going through this, all it may take is the smell of a perfume, a fabric, a color, sights, flashbacks to all, and anything that reminds them of any of those past traumatic issues. This can and does knock many off of their stable foundations. It is cyclic.

Nothwithstanding, in early childhood, trauma that happen to children not yet really able to verbalize, children may hold on to these issues for a lifetime.

One other thing, in our present day issues, as the Challenger Explosion, seeing clips of 911, the public went through a ptsd type of understanding, on a mass scale. Just think what the early issues before our present day issues, including civil war, etc. All of those issues including health, and mental exacerbations can and do amount to much harm for many lives, of all communities, economics. Thanks for allowing me to share.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 10:33:20 AM »
One last thought crossed my little mind....My husband before his injury worked with teeth. Now up till 1970s dentists filled teeth a mercury-silver mixture and used this as filling. This is nothing to gloss by either. So with everything else of pots, pans, etc., this was a daily happening with much of the population...just a thought.

Feedback ?

By the way, your all a splendid think tank...bravo, bravisimo to all. :) What a sincere pleasure it is for me to come to this wonderful website!


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 02:02:17 AM »
Dear Alex and All,

How many times has 'history' been written, and rewritten, and we still don't have all of it down pat. Of course history, facts, issues, can somehow and sometimes become a very 'heated' action. But I like to think of it in terms especially on this website, that we all have a right to offer our insights. Nothing is set in stone.

Let's just put that faith so to speak in action, and allow positive energy to flow. I know we can do it. In difference to the many hardships that life holds, at least here, let's make it the best in offering our best.


Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 01:20:14 AM »
Dear Alex and All,

Thank goodness my thoughts were not irrelevant to the discussion. I'm afraid I'm not as learned or in the fields as many of the distinguished scholars on this site, but somehow what we hear over time, does not get lost, and as with this particular issue, I thought I might share my brain. [lol].

I heard lead used over time, and or in large quantities as well can and has led to people's becoming somewhat unbalanced, even insanity. With all that HIH was going through, this could only add to the sad things that evolved over time, perhaps, mentally and physically. I don't know if at the time makeup was used extensively over the face, but the 'added use of powder, which is lead based', can only add to the overall dosage, so to speak. Whew, now I can rest.

Tatiana [Tania]

Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: Alexandra and her Health
« on: August 25, 2005, 12:00:13 AM »
Since I'm told there are no stupid questions, hear goes:
sorry to throw this into the fray, and it may mean nothing at all, but, I'll ask anyway. Does anyone know if HIHA used makeup? I know during those years, it was lead based. I wonder if that would add to any type of medical issues, including with any medications, etc. she was taking?


The Imperial Family / Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« on: August 24, 2005, 02:49:43 PM »
Dear Amelia,

Per your quote:

'my dream is to go back to St. Petersburgh and then go to Siberia - Yekaterinbugh and Tobolsk.  I understand that the house where the IF lived is still in Tobolsk'
So nice to talk to you'


Your braver than I, but you did not state if you were going to Siberia in the Spring or Winter. I just can't imagine anyone going in Winter. brrrrrr.

I wish we had been able to go those cities when we were in Russia, but we went in '75, and one did not ask then to go to such sites. I would love to see pictures if possible of your trip, especially the cities you have mentioned in particular. People on this site have been especially kind in sharing such treasured photos of their trips, the IF, etc. I'm very thankful to come each day just to see the varied entries, the pictures.

Thank you so very much for responding, and sharing your thoughts.



Dear Marialana,

I can't agree with you more. 80 years since the horrid brutal murder of the IF, and still as a reader it is impossible to comprehend the actions of such sheer insanity. It's outside any 'thinking human being's mind'.
They were not speaking, or interacting with civilized human beings. To think and do that with even one human life is oneous. But these thugs continued to do it to millions of lives. When in any society, should children most of all pay for their lives to end in such a horrible way? I don't think any person here on this website, or anywhere in the world would act on such devil oriented plans, except if they were insane.

Nicholas was an exceptional man, as was his wife, and his children, [imho]. As parents and children, they were beyond caring human beings.

As most human beings being held hostage, then and now, most hostages never want to give up hope. For the IF they were not just dealing with insanity, they were dealing with people who wanted revenge, and for others to feel the hopelessness they felt. They were dealing with people who wanted and did erase human life on a mass scale, so they could control, manipulate, and continue to hold people hostage indefinately.

Our family not only escaped from communism, and all it's horrible issues, but many had to live through it. It's one thing to read history, it's another thing to live through it. It's twice as hard to know you live in freedom, while loved ones are going through hell, or were forced to die in hell.

When one write's, especially on this subject matter, it's important to keep 'a human face' on it. These are not just the mechanics of politics, it has affected human lives !

How would each of us fare in and through such circumstances for one day, or for the length of time the IF and others did?

Would any of you on this site, turn in your family, your children, for your feedom, or your life ?

Would they?


"I'm not sure why it would've ever occurred to Nicholas that abdication would equal his family's murder. What happened to them was completely outside of his frame of reference. The downward spiral that followed the abdication would've been a shock to anyone who lived their lives in a very safe, civilized cocoon. The thought that his children should pay in blood for his misdeeds was so preposterous and evil, and  so opposite to everything the man had ever known. Even if someone had told him that it could happen, I doubt he really would've believed that such a hideous thing would be allowed to take place in any civilized world. I don' t think he was out of touch with reality,  just out of touch with human brutality, which are two different things. In my opinion, the first one makes him foolish, the latter makes him an exceptional man."

The Imperial Family / Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« on: August 22, 2005, 03:40:39 PM »
Dear Amelia,

If there are any family members I hope they are well. Several years ago, I went with my husband to Russia. I tried in russia to find relatives, but I was unsuccessful. I'm 63 years of age and doubt any direct living relative would be alive today. I would love to go back to Russia, and spend at least three months, with a major point of visitation in St. Petersburg. When we were there, and people found out the linkage of my last name, they could not have been kind enough. The city of St. Petersburg is brilliantly breathtaking. We were in Russia also when it was the 'white nights'. Don't know if I could take winter. brrrr the thought is not warming, lol.

I've a few books, but the major part of russian books, antiques, etc., my sister and her son walked off with, as well as other irreplaceable objects, etc. But, I've come to understand, as well taught our daughter: it's not to focus one's life on obtaining all that glitters, rather  to be at home with your conscience, and be proud of your heritage, your name, and staying honest. With that, you can die with your soul intact.  For me, for our daughter, we are proud enough just to have the linkage to history. That you cannot break, nor be selfish about. Of course in all of this I believe, one's faith must be strong in order for one to face so many adversities. It is.
Nice to meet you :)


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