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There's information in English about Maria Sophia in "The last Bourbons of Naples" by Harold Acton.

French Royals / Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« on: June 02, 2008, 03:53:53 AM »
Not to divert from the subject, but I recently read a book by Antonia Fraser regarding Marie Antoinette. It mentions that she is related to the doomed Alix of Hesse through the Hessian line.  Since these two women share many similar life events, could someone explain how they are related?

This is how Marie Antoinette descends from the Hessian line:

Landgrave George II of Hesse-Darmstadt
Elizabeth Amalia of Hesse-Darmstadt
Eleonore of Neuburg
Emperor Charles VI
Empress Maria Theresa
Marie Antoinette

French Royals / Re: Louis XVII - Did he die in the Tower?
« on: May 21, 2008, 11:48:19 AM »
I know it, Robert. I was just being sarcastic.  ;)

French Royals / Re: Louis XVII - Did he die in the Tower?
« on: May 21, 2008, 06:47:56 AM »
Before or after the fall of the monarchy I wonder...the poor woman changed dramatically during her imprisonment ...the sketch of her going to her death is unrecognisable to the glorious portraits of her as Queen

I guess Carol Jean resembles Marie Antoinette in her glorious portraits as Queen, not in the sketch of her on the way to the guillotine.

The Habsburgs / Re: Daughters of Emperor Ferdinand I
« on: May 09, 2008, 09:37:19 AM »
Anna and Gregoria (of Styria) were successively promised to Felipe III of Spain.
Due to their deaths, Felipe married their youngest sister Margaret

It was not not Anna, but Katharina (or Catherine) who was engaged to the future King Philip III of Spain. However, she died shortly after and her sister Gregoria was chosen to replace her; tragically, Gregoria also died shortly after and, finally, her sister Margaret was chosen and became King Philip III's wife.

The Habsburgs / Re: Daughters of Emperor Ferdinand I
« on: May 09, 2008, 09:28:36 AM »
can anyone give me more information about the daughter of HRE Ferdinand I

Anna of Austria 1528 - 1590

Archduchess Anna of Austria married Duke Albert V of Bavaria and is the ancestress of several royal families, including the Wittelsbachs and the Habsburgs.

Maria of Austria 1531- 1581

Archduchess Maria of Austria married Duke William of Julich-Cleves and is the ancestress of several Protestant royal families, including the Hohenzollerns and the Windsors.
Johanna of Austria   1547- 1578

Archduchess Johanna of Austria was the mother of the famous Marie of Medici, Queen of France. This is what the Worldroots website says about Johanna:

Born on 24 January 1547 in Prague, her marriage to Francesco de' Medici, heir of the Grand Duke of Tuscany, took place on 18 December 1565 in Florence. Johanna, as pale, thin and charmless as Francesco, was miserably homesick. Ill and unhappy, ignored by her husband, and condemned by the Florentines for her Austrian hauteur, she never felt at home in Florence. 
In his way her father-in-law was kind to her. He had the courtyard of the Palazzo Vecchio specially decorated for her; the lunettes were painted with murals of Austrian towns by pupils of Vasari, and Verocchio's gay fountain of the little urchin with a spouting fish was brought down from the Careggi villa where it had been set up in the garden by Lorenzo il Magnifico. 
In twelve years of marriage, she gave birth to eight children; then, on 10 April 1578 aged only thirty-one, she died in Florence. Francesco then married his mistress, Bianca Capello.

French Royals / Re: Louis XVII - Did he die in the Tower?
« on: May 01, 2008, 11:49:50 AM »
Carol Jean, I'm curious about what happened to your book. Any updates? I read in the link you provided that you are signing copies of it.

Thank you...But can you give us your source????

Harold Acton's "The last Bourbons of Naples".

wow what an end! I hope king ferdinando II had not to face a scandal about it.

The crime was hushed up to avoid scandal.

Gabriel of Spain was eleventh child of King Carlos III and Maria Amalia of Saxony. He was born in Portici, 11 May 1752. In 23 May 1785 he married Marianna Victoria of Portugal (Queluz 15 Dec 1768-Escorial 2 Nov 1788). The couple had three children, but only eldest son Pedro survived. Gabriel died just three weeks after his wife. Is it known, why they both died so early? Anything more about them and their short lives? Any pictures (except a beautiful one of Gabriel by Mengs :))? Who (after their death) take a care of their son Pedro?

Gabriel was very intelligent, loved arts (especially music) and was his father's favourite child. His wife, Mariana Victoria of Portugal, tragically died of smallpox; Gabriel and their third child also got infected and that's why they died shortly after her. Their death was a great blow for King Charles III, who also died shortly afterwards.

Their only surviving child, Pedro Carlos, was sent to Portugal to be raised in the court of his maternal grandmother, Queen Maria I. It's interesting that Pedro Carlos was also granted the title of Infante of Portugal, so he was officially a member of both the Spanish and Portuguese royal families.

Italian Royal Families / Re: The Habsburgs - Grand Dukes of Toscana
« on: March 20, 2008, 06:03:21 AM »
1. Maria Ferdinanda of Saxony (b. Dresden 27 Apr 1796, d. 3 Jan 1865), m. Florence 6 May 1821 FERDINANDO III. who was restored to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany in May 1814. (b. Florence 6 May 1769, d. Florence 18 Jun 1824).

Her husband was nearly 30 years older than she and has three children, son and heir Leopold and two daughters. Nineteen years after death of his first wife, Luisa Bourbon-Two Sicilies (b. 27 Jul 1773, d. 19 Sep 1802), he married elder sister of his daughter in law.
Maria was Queen of Tuscany for three years, till the death of her husband. After the wedding she became mother in law of her younger sister Anna – funny situation, but not unusual (Another example, Empress Carolina Augusta and Archduchess Sofia, mother of Emperor Franz Joseph).
Maria died in 1865 in Bohemia, on castle Brandeis, property of the family Habsburg-Tuscany. Had she any contact with the family of her husband after his death? Any better pictures of her?

I know that Maria Ferdinanda was very close to her stepson Grand Duke Leopold II of Tuscany and he frequently turned to her for advice, both personal and political. It was Maria Ferdinanda who helped to arrange a marriage between Leopold's son Ferdinand and Anna Maria of Saxony, who belonged to her family.

2. Maria Anna of Saxony (b. Dresden 15 Nov 1799, d. Pisa 24 Mar 1832); m. by proxy at Dresden 28 Oct 1817 and in person at Florence 16 Nov 1817 LEOPOLDO II (b. Florence 3 Oct 1797, d.Rome 29 Jan 1870).

She was mother of three daughters:
Maria Carolina (b. Florence 19 Nov 1822, d.Florence 5 Oct 1841)
Augusta Ferdinanda (b. Florence 1 Apr 1825, d.Munich 26 Apr 1864); m.Florence 15 Apr 1844 Luitpold Pr of Bavaria (1821-1912)
Maria Maximiliana (b. Florence 9 Jan 1827, d. Florence 18 May 1834)
It is said, that when she was dying, she asked her husband to marry again (because they do not have a son). She recommand him to choose a new wife from house Bourbon-Two Sicilies, because of good fertility of their daughters. Leopold II. tooke this advice and choose Antoinetta (b. Palermo 19 Dec 1814, d. Orth 7 Nov 1898), who bore him ten children.

Maria Anna of Saxony was very interested in painting and poetry, just like her youngest sister Maria Josepha. Her husband was very much in love with her and, after her death, he always remembered her with fondness.

Iberian Royal Families / Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:52:19 AM »
Are there some pictures of her? Why was she married to her uncle? And why she died so early?

According to what I've read, it is Maria Amalia who appears in the great family portrait painted by Goya called "Charles IV's family" and not her sister Carlota Joaquina as it as been said. She's the woman whose face is shown next to her husband Infante Antonio. In addition, I found another picture of her in an old Spanish royal magazine.

The Habsburgs / Re: Queens of Bohemia
« on: October 04, 2007, 01:59:05 AM »
Hello, let me tell you that, although I appear as the creator of this thread, in fact I did not. Two years ago another member of the forum started it with a question about the Queens of Bohemia and I was the first one to reply, but later this person deleted his original first post, making me look like I started it. Now we forum members can't delete our posts, but two years ago we were allowed to do it.

Iberian Royal Families / Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« on: September 14, 2007, 02:16:06 AM »
Izabel 1396 was named after Joao's PORTUGUESE

After whom was Izabel named?

Ferdinand maintained an affectionate correspondence with his grandfather, Louis XV of France, who always tried to give him good advice. However, the French king didn't seem to like his grandson's wife, Maria Amalia.

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