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Iberian Royal Families / Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family

« on: June 15, 2007, 10:35:02 AM »

No, Felipe, duke of Calabria (mental retarded) was left in Naples.

Felipe (or Filippo) never set foot on Spain. He spent the rest of his life in Naples with his brother Ferdinando, who was very fond of him. His eratic behavior caused a lot of comment indeed, but in the Neapolitan court. Nevertheless, he always attended opera performances and dinners with his brother, though most of the times he just sat quietly without saying a single word. When Philip died in 1777, Carlos III ordered that there should be no period of mourning and it seems that it was a relief for the family.

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The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: queen anne and king george 1st

« on: June 09, 2007, 09:28:50 AM »

Anne-Marie protested? That's quite interesting Palatine! Where did you read it?

The document is found in The Jacobite Heritage website:

Protest of the Duchess of Savoy against the "Act of Settlement", 1701
http://www.jacobite.ca/documents/1701savoy.htm

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French Royals / Re: Queen Marie Antoinette

« on: June 09, 2007, 09:17:22 AM »

An interesting thought, I realize that Marie Antoinette and Alix were related through Prussian blood as well as Saxe-Saalfield (did this come through her mother's side?)  But did she have any Hessian blood.  If in fact she was descended from George II Landrave of Hesse as was Alix? 

Marie Antoinette had Hessian blood indeed. She descended from Landgrave George II of Hesse-Darmstadt through his daughter Elizabeth Amalia. Alix also descended from Landgrave George II but through his eldest son, Landgrave Louis VI of Hesse-Darmstadt.

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Iberian Royal Families / Re: Infante Gabriel of Spain and his descendants

« on: May 22, 2007, 07:43:19 AM »

Infante Pedro Carlos of Spain was born in the royal palace of Aranjuez, Spain on 18 June 1786. Two years later his parents, Gabriel and Mariana Victoria, as well as his grandfather, King Charles III of Spain, died. For this reason Queen Maria I of Portugal asked the next Spanish king Charles IV to send Pedro Carlos to the court of Lisbon in order to raise him there. So Pedro Carlos spent most of his childhood in Portugal with the Portuguese royal family and later he joined them in their exile to Brazil, which took place in 1807. Around the time, Pedro Carlos was described as "ignorant, rude and with a vulgar and indecent tongue". However, the regent Joao (later King Joao VI of Portugal) was very fond of him and favored a match between Pedro Carlos and his eldest daughter Infanta Maria Teresa, who was the most beautiful and intelligent of the Portuguese princesses at the time. This match met with the opposition of Joao's wife, Carlota Joaquina, who hated Pedro Carlos with all her heart. When she heard the news about it, she stated that it would have been less painful for her to hear the news about her daughter's death. Nevertheless, Pedro Carlos and Maria Teresa's wedding took place in Rio de Janeiro on 13 May 1810. Their marriage was very happy and they were passionately in love with each other. They only had one son, Infante Sebastian, who was born on 4 November 1811. Shortly after, Pedro Carlos became ill, according to some people because he was exhausted after having too much action in his royal bed. He died on 4 July 1812 in the estate of Boa Vista.

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The Hohenzollern / Re: Princess Alexandra of Hohenlohe-Langenburg

« on: April 26, 2007, 06:59:54 AM »

In my opinion, Sandra was pretty as a child but not as a grown woman.

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Italian Royal Families / Re: King Francesco I of Two-Sicilies, and his family

« on: April 26, 2007, 06:54:05 AM »

Soon after Maria Clementina died, a marriage was arranged between her widower Francis and Infanta Maria Isabella of Spain. Francis' mother, Queen Maria Carolina, who hadn't been consulted, was indignant and wrote to a friend:

"You know my projects for my son. Fate has willed otherwise. He wishes to marry his cousin, the Infanta of Spain. I have seen it in his own handwriting to the General (Acton) only ten days after the death of his virtuous wife, saying that this long celibacy oppressed him. I blush that this is my son. But God wishes to humiliate and torment us. We must adore His decrees."

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The Greek Royal Family / Re: King Georg II & Queen Elisabeth

« on: March 16, 2007, 03:41:47 PM »

It is obvious you have never read John Wiimbles' articles on Elisabetha. You should.  You would learn even more.  Have you read Hannah Pakula's bio on Marie.  More good stuff on Elisabetha.  Eric has only quoted or referred to a miniscule part of the series.   If you are truly interested in Elisabetha, you should take on more research.  Read these articles, read what was written about her  ...

Elisabeta was certainly a difficult person, made many mistakes and paid for them but she wasn't the evil monster you pretend her to be either, she also had a good side. And I think this after having read both John Wimbles' articles on her and Hannah Pakula's bio on Marie. I think John Wimbles' articles give a good insight into Elisabeta's life. As basilforever said, it is obvious that you are biased and that you personally dislike Elisabeta and I noticed this since a long time ago. Everytime someone said the slightest good thing about her, you were always the first one to say "no, she was nasty, etc.". The question is why? A reflection on your own life perhaps?

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The Greek Royal Family / Re: King Georg II & Queen Elisabeth

« on: March 16, 2007, 07:22:03 AM »

However the fact remains that Marlene's original research on Baby Bee was not good enough. Likewise, I think John Wimbles' research on Elisabeta is much more reliable.

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The Greek Royal Family / Re: King Georg II & Queen Elisabeth

« on: March 16, 2007, 06:05:35 AM »

I have spent more than a quarter of a century studying the descendants of of Queen Victoria, and have written extensively on various descendants.

And part of what you have written is unreliable, Marlene. Should I remind you that what your book Queen Victoria's descendants says about Baby Bee's treachery towards Ena is inaccurate, as you once admitted? It's odd considering that you have spent more than a quarter of a century studying the subject.

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The Hohenzollern / Re: Princess Alexandra of Hohenlohe-Langenburg

« on: December 31, 2006, 06:51:01 AM »

I know that Sandra's daughter Alexandra was very close to her aunt Beatrice ("Baby Bee") and she spent a lot of time with her in Spain, where she bought an estate.

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Italian Royal Families / Re: Savoia-Genova

« on: November 13, 2006, 05:48:07 AM »

Isabella was nicknamed Bela by her family. She was a goddaughter of her namesake, Queen Isabella II of Spain, who was very fond of her.

She and her husband Tommaso were very close to the Bavarian and Spanish royal families. Queen Isabella 's daughter Infanta Eulalia spent a great deal of time with them during her trips in Italy. They were also invited to the wedding of King Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg in 1906.

Isabella was very fond of her native Bavaria and frequently visited Munich. She and her husband used to spend a lot of time in their residence of Aglié, which reminded her of Nymphenburg Palace, where she was born. She was old-fashioned and it was hard for her to accept the "infernal" machines like the automobile, so she preferred to travel by carriage.

Infanta Paz tells more details about Isabella in her memoirs.

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Iberian Royal Families / Re: Spanish Habsburg Infantas

« on: November 08, 2006, 08:33:29 AM »

She had three children and three miscarriages in 1687, 1688 and 1691. The exact dates and the sex of the babies are unknown to me.

Umigon, could you please tell us which your source for this information is? I had never read about these miscarriages.

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The Windsors / Re: The House of Windsor and The Press

« on: November 03, 2006, 11:12:55 AM »

Is it possible that sharing the English language has something to do with it? N.

I think it has a lot to do with the language indeed. There are many books in English about the British royals; you can find several English titles about the Tudors, Elizabeth I, the Stuarts, the Hannoverian dynasty, Queen Victoria, her descendants, etc. you name it. On the other hand, there aren't many books written in English about the royals of Scandinavia, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc. There are some, of course, but not as many as in their respective languages (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) and that means that English-speaking people don't have access to those non-English books, unless they speak other languages, which is not always the case.

Regarding the popularity of the British royals... well, I'm sure that some English-speaking people know that King Alfonso XIII of Spain existed only because he married Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg. Had he married another princess (non-British) I bet he would be much more unknown to English-speaking people. Likewise, some persons are interested in Nicholas II of Russia only because he married a granddaughter of Queen Victoria.

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The Wittlesbachs / Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption

« on: November 03, 2006, 10:29:28 AM »

But she was known as Louise, not Amelie.

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The Wittlesbachs / Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain

« on: October 17, 2006, 06:47:09 AM »

Maria Luisa de Silva was said to be not very attractive. She was born in 1870, which meant that she was 14 years older than her husband Ferdinand, but during all her life she lied saying that she was born in 1880. King Alfonso XIII made Maria Luisa an Infanta of Spain in 1927. It was the first time that a King of Spain made a non-royal person an infante or infanta.