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French Royals / Re: Princess de Lamballe
« on: June 12, 2007, 04:56:19 PM »
There's a family group on page three of this thread, which shows him - they're all drinking cocoa!  :)

French Royals / Re: Mistresses of the French Kings
« on: May 31, 2007, 03:48:18 PM »
Yes, I love that quote!  ;D ;D

French Royals / Re: Mistresses of the French Kings
« on: May 30, 2007, 04:05:47 PM »
In fact, he stopped using the house some time after the death of Mme de Pompadour. It's difficult to say when exactly, but it was sold off in 1771. I don't think it was ever the harem of popular imagination, more of a bed and breakfast establishment!

French Royals / Re: Mistresses of the French Kings
« on: May 27, 2007, 05:45:44 AM »
No, she really was a stunner, and although not an intellectual like her predecessor, had quite reasonable taste I think! It wasn't as if she went round putting in discordant colour schemes all over Versailles! She continued the trend away from the Rococo towards the more simple classical style of what later was to be known as "Louis XVI".

As for sex, Louis XV had plenty of other places he could look for that. I think he really loved her, and that she may have loved him too. I think the fact that the relationship lasted six years speaks for itself.

When Louis XV was first taken ill in 1774, he did not at first think he was dying, but he was advised to send the DuBarry away from court in order to make sure that if the worst came to the worst he could die with a clear conscience. He was crying (in public) when they parted, as he knew that even if he recovered he would never be able to see her again. I find this terribly sad...

The Tudors / Re: Margaret Tudor (1489-1541)
« on: May 27, 2007, 05:25:27 AM »
She was about the same age as her granddaughter Mary, at the time of the Darnley marriage......

Henry did let her live at the English Court as Queen of Scotland, so it's not as if he didn't help. It was later not his fault that she fell out with her son, so I can't really see what more he could have done for her.

On the other hand it would be wrong to describe the relationship between Henry and Margaret as close.

The Tudors / Re: Richard III and the Princes in the Tower
« on: May 27, 2007, 05:18:54 AM »
My bet is that he lived quietly in Colchester, not once contacting his mother or his sisters. He would then change his name to Baldwin, before having several children......... ::)

I agree, Silja!

The Tudors / Re: Margaret Tudor (1489-1541)
« on: May 23, 2007, 05:44:15 PM »
Yes, her brother Henry thought she was a bit of a flibbertygibbet! :D

The Tudors / Re: Edmund Tudor
« on: May 17, 2007, 05:53:38 PM »

My guess is that Mary was hoping that her son would end up being king, so obviously she would have been pro Katherine. She was very ill all this time, and totally out of it by all accounts....

The Tudors / Re: Yorkist Princesses
« on: May 08, 2007, 05:53:49 PM »
I was on the bus again today, and was wondering if Elizabeth put her toddler daughter into a convent as a way of getting the church on her side. It was also a guarantee that nothing untoward would happen to the other girls.....
I'm thinking of the 1483-5 period. ???

The Hohenzollern / Re: German Royal Palaces, Castles and Homes
« on: May 08, 2007, 05:47:41 PM »
I would recommend " Berlin auf dem Wege zu einer neuen Architektur" by Julius Posener. Wilhelminismus is a vague term, but it corresponds to the taste of the emperor which vacillated between a kind of neo-baroque, and an english Arts and Crafts simplicity, depending on what mood he was in! And you are right this apparent contradiction resulted in the Bauhaus style! :o

The Hohenzollern / Re: German Royal Palaces, Castles and Homes
« on: May 06, 2007, 05:42:58 PM »
Ironically, the First World War saved the Stadtschloss, at least temporarily. The last Kaiser was very keen to have the Schloss completely rebuilt in a more Wilhelmine style, but the war intervened. I've always thought that the dome, which dates from the 1890s was an unfortunate and bombastic addition.

The Tudors / Re: Yorkist Princesses
« on: May 05, 2007, 06:02:07 PM »
Back to Bridget.... she was also 37 when she died, but a relic from an earlier dynasty. She must have been two when her father died and 12 when her mother died. Could it be that Henry VII was responsible for consigning her to the convent?

The Tudors / Re: Yorkist Princesses
« on: May 01, 2007, 06:25:06 PM »
I had always thought that maybe Bridget was mentally retarded, which was why she was consigned to a convent. Maybe someone can tell us more? I believe she was at Dartford, which is not a million miles from her sister's palace at Greenwich. Were there any visits?

The Stuarts of Scotland / Re: Scottish Crown Jewels
« on: May 01, 2007, 06:21:15 PM »
Yes, the Honours of Scotland have a dramatic history, about which Tsaria will no doubt tell us presently!  :) ;D

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