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Admiral Alexander Razvozov was commander of the Baltic Fleet 7(20) July - 5(18) December 1917

Servants, Friends and Retainers / Re: Valya Dolgorukov vs Dolgoruky
« on: February 08, 2014, 01:55:27 AM »
Princes Dolgoruky do exist. For example the ones I mentioned above, listed in the Ves Petrograd directory.

Here about prince Sergey Alexandrovich Dolgoruky, who was enlisted in the suite of the Empress Maria Feodorovna:

Servants, Friends and Retainers / Re: Valya Dolgorukov vs Dolgoruky
« on: February 07, 2014, 03:08:48 PM »
The telephone directory Ves Petrograd of 1916 lists:

prince Sergey Alexandrovich Dolgorukij and princess Irina Vasilevna Dolgorukaya (address Moika 120), prince Petr Alexandrovich Dolgorukij and princess Olga Petrovna Dolgorukaya (Galernaya 77) and princess Sofia Alekseevna Dolgorukaya (English Embarkment 70)

All others are listed under Dolgorukov (9 princes) / Dolgorukova (6 princesses)

Anything to do with the Romanovs and Imperial Russia?

Nicholas II / Re: Nicholas II visits Kiev, 1911
« on: December 31, 2013, 02:25:24 AM »
The "poteshnye" can be compared to boy scouts.

Originally the name comes from the Russian word "potekha", fun. A squadron of young boys was formed in the 80s of the 17th century for the fun of Peter the Great. From it emerged the Peter the Great Regiment of "poteshnye", boy scouts. By the end of the 19th century there were many of these squadrons over Russia, as they had become some kind of part of the education of many young boys. Known are great performances, in St. Petersburg, attended by all members of the Romanov family, with participation of thousands of "poteshnye" for ex. in 1912.

Besides diaries and memoirs there still is another good source: the daily newspapers. In this matter we can read in Novoe Vremya December 1st 1916 page 7, that GD Elizaveta Feodorovna had arrived by train from Moscow on November 30th. From the railway station she first went to the St Peter and Paul Cathedral to pay her respects to the grave of Alexander III. Then she visited the Chapel of Our Savior (on Nevsky Prospekt, between the Gostiny Dvor and the Municipal Council (Gosudarstvennaya Duma), it was demolished in 1929), the Kazan Cathedral, also on Nevsky, the Ioannovsky Convent (founded by St John of Kronstadt, still excisting, on Karpovka canal), and the Nikolo-Alexandrovsky church (on Prospekt Bakunina, demolished in 1932),and only after these visits she went to Tsarskoe Selo.

In next day's paper, on page 7 there is a short notice: On Dec 1st GD Elizaveta Feodorovna had left for Moscow.

In Russia, before the Revolution, and later, in the Soviet Union, people learned to read between the lines. Maybe in this case, due to the shortness of this second notice, they could understand, that the visit of GD Elizaveta had not been a success?


Elizaveta Alekseevna Naryshkina also published a book called "My memories" in 1906. However, the story in the book finishes in 1875.

Voeikov, of course, V. N. - Vladimir Nikolaevich.

About his book:

She died in the USA, see reply #65 (by Inok Nikolai) in this thread for a picture of her grave.

The Governor-General's residence was indeed on the Southern Esplanade in downtown Helsinki. Today there are the official State Banquet rooms. The Government Guest House is located in the suburb Munkkiniemi, close to the President's residence.

The State Banquet Rooms are called the "Smolna". It got its name after the revolution, when the building was used by the Finnish Red Guards. Of course you understand the connection with the Petrograd's Smolna... Even today here in Helsinki we talk about the "Smolna". Its official name: Valtioneuvoston juhlahuoneisto. At least for foreigners "Smolna" sounds easier to pronounce or is easier to remember.

Funny, or maybe strange: in 1969 the book was translated into Finnish and published under the title Rubiinit ennustavat onnettomuutta, but I guess this will not help many of you.
The only reason I can imagine why in Finnish: Marina spent some time in her younger years in Helsinki....

See an old post by Penny Wilson here:

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Ooops, the picture came out rather big, sorry for that!


Evgenija Vladimirovna Voeikova was often called Nini. But officially her first names were Eugenie Valeria Josefina.

The Imperial Family / Re: identification
« on: September 27, 2013, 09:02:34 AM »
A brighter version:

Alexandra Dmitrievna Romanova, born Pokotilova, wife of vice-minister of Finance Petr Mikhajlovich Romanov (1851-1911)

Many thanks, Greg, for your reply!

What a pity this material is lying somewhere in a drawer and waiting for better days!

Let's hope one day .....

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