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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria

« on: July 05, 2010, 01:24:21 PM »

Your both welcome! Yes it's interesting indeed. Those (upper-class) Victorians had something for everything to look orderly and in control. Writing with gloves and seven layers of skirts on, with in the meantime tight up by something like a corset! And also no right what so ever, just smile and stroll the entire day. It's just unbelievable (uncomfortable and frustrating)!

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The Danish Royal Family / Re: Frederick VIII, Queen Lovisa (Swan) and their family

« on: July 05, 2010, 06:31:52 AM »

Some more....first two of ''Aunt Swan's'' mother Lovisa, Frederick VIII and Lovisa, Frederick and Lovisa with their family, the one gdella poster earlier on of Lovisa and Frederick and Lovisa's daughter princess Thyra of Denmark.

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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria

« on: July 04, 2010, 03:17:29 PM »

Found it! From King Olav of Norway's Memoirs,  a small anecdote about his mother Queen Maud:

''I still see her before me as she used to sit at her writing-desk. She always wrote with gloves on, like all the English ladies of her time. Thin natural colored chamois leather gloves. Since they were girls that was what they were taught. It was not to avoid fingerprints, but it was a way to get no ink on their fingers. They wrote with a pen so thin, it probably would not even be possible to write without gloves on.''

King Olav talks about 'they' when he talks about his mothers writing-habbits, so its logical to think he also talks about the writting-habbings of his aunts: Louise and (Vic)toria. And offcourse the rest of the English ladies of that time. His memoirs give a wonderfull inside in the different royal families Olav was connected to and other important historical events. He tells about: the band with his parents, about his grandparents Edward VII and Alexandra, Queen Victoria, the death of the Imperial Family, meeting Martha, the death of his wife and sister-inlaw Astrid and many more interesting stories.

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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria

« on: July 03, 2010, 03:22:22 PM »

Yes offcourse! That was it! Still looking for Olav's quote anyway. Thank you for your bright mind Veronica.

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The Windsors / Re: Cousin Toria

« on: July 03, 2010, 06:50:22 AM »

In her room at Balmoral 1908.

Oh Keith brilliant photograph! Just wonderfull, thank you very much for sharing!

Yes I too agree that the room looks rather nicely arranged. If she did this herself, she was a pretty good stylist and Coppins must have been a treat to the eye. I think this photograph is indeed posed, as most of the photographs were of that time. Nevertheless it's lovely! You can see a portrait of her mother Queen Alexandra in the background.

But maybe I have an explanation of the gloves thing. I've read a part of King Olav of Norway's memoirs in Dutch and he told that his mother Queen Maud ('Toria's' sister) always wrote her letters with very thin silk gloves on. She had learned to do so as a child and almost all the woman of her age did it. So 'Toria' must have done the same thing when writting. I'm not exactly sure anymore why the did wear the gloves, it had something to do with the pencil (were you wrote your letters whit) that was very delicate and could only be held correctly wearing gloves or something. So it is possible she is writting or reading letters or was just finished doing so. I will look it up.

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Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: Prince Carl & Princess Ingeborg's family

« on: June 29, 2010, 06:27:57 AM »

Thank you gdella for that impressive photograph of princess Ingeborg at Martha's funeral. She looks devastated! I send here two photographs taken at Astrid's funeral. The first one shows Crownprincess Louise of Sweden nee Louise Mountbatten arriving by plain for the funeral of Queen Astrid. The second one shows the devastated parents Carl and Ingeborg and other close relatives like: Astrid's brother Carl, sister Martha and her brother-inlaw Olav. I cannot imagine the pain that must be felt when losing your child.





RN

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Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: Prince Carl & Princess Ingeborg's family

« on: June 23, 2010, 05:28:50 AM »

Yes it was  shown in the documentary 'A Royal Family' by Marcus Mandal & Anna Lerche about Christian IX and Louise's descentants. Ingeborg's grandaughter the late Grand Duchess Josephine Charlotte of Luxembourg nee Princess of Belgium told about it. I'm not completely sure, but I think the story was something like the following. Just before her mother Astrid died in the horrible car crash, Josephine saw that her mother had a grew lock of hair and she told her mother she would die soon (not knowing it would come true). Astrid wrought about this in her last letter towards her mother Ingeborg and she was offcourse already in shock after receiving the horrible news about the death of her beloved daughter and even more after reading the letter.

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Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: King Haakon & Queen Maud of Norway (nee Princess Maud of Wales)

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:33:16 AM »

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Scandanavian Royal Families / Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family

« on: June 06, 2010, 03:27:33 PM »

Brilliant and beautiful pictures KarlandZita! Thank you very much for sharing! I love the clothes and hats of the ladies. Look at the height of the one Queen Mary is wearing!

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The Windsors / Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part I

« on: June 06, 2010, 12:52:29 PM »

Yes..that is probably the best thing to do. Will wait.. !

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The Windsors / Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part I

« on: June 06, 2010, 12:46:53 PM »

You're welcomme Eddie, but I'm a bit confused now about the anecdote...

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The Windsors / Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part I

« on: June 06, 2010, 12:41:50 PM »

It shows she still think of herself as a princess and minded the precedence very much.

  Well naturally! She was still a member of the royal family and didn't she remain in the line of succesion??

Born a princess, always a princess! I would act the same as Patricia I think. As Eddie said, she was still (a very active) member of the family and offcourse in line of succesion. You can't just throw away you're Royal 'education' like that.

Well Taren, I thought Eric was right this time with his anecdote. Atleast I have always read the anecdote in the way Eric told it, but maybe other posters can help us out.

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The Windsors / Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part I

« on: June 06, 2010, 12:33:50 PM »

RN,

From Robert Golden's "Relatively Royal" - Marie Louise had taken her own supply of gin and tonic to the Abbey for the present Queen's coronation. Having helped herself quite freely to it during the service and in the Annexe after the service, had to be escorted quite firmly to her carriage, where she insisted on having the window open, despite the weather. She half-hung herself out of the window waving to the crowds. Everytime the carriage would come to a stop she would lurch forward almost landing in the Earl of Athlone's lap. Patsy repeatedly tried to get her to shut the window, the request falling on deaf ears.

Yes that's the one! Omg 'Patsy' must have been quite embarrassed. And the Earl of Athlone..my god! Good old 'Louie'! Priceless! But what a wonderfull side it must have been: Marie Louise waving enthusiastic towards the crowds! She must have been something like the family's pacemaker.

Oh, thank you very much for sharing it Keith! You're wonderfull as always! Do you have any more pictures of the two sisters together or with other members of the family? I still love the one you send me very much. Words can not thank you enough!



Here is one from gettyimages: 11th November 1932: King George V (1865 - 1936), Queen Mary, the Duke and Duchess of York and other members of the Royal Family leaving after the Armistice Day ceremony in Whitehall, London. (Photo by Fox Photos/Getty Images) I love the Duchess of York outfit in this picture. Really Elegant! And Marie Louise wears a beautiful furcoat as well. The fashion of the nineteenthirties seems to suit Thora quite well I think.

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The Windsors / Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part I

« on: June 05, 2010, 09:41:24 AM »

Fellow-posters! I remember reading an hilarious anecdote about Marie Louise and Patricia Connaught sitting together in a carriage during a coronation I believe. I thought it had something to do with an open window. But I have searched the entire forum and I can't find it anywhere! So if someone knows this anecdote, would that someone please be so kind to share it again. It would be ever so kind! Thank you in advance.

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The Windsors / Re: Appleton House

« on: May 29, 2010, 02:14:51 PM »

Maybe not the best translation ever from Norwegian to English

Online translators can yield quite decent results IF one takes the time to read through them, correct obvious mistakes and look up the odd word in online dictionaries.

Well I thought it was quite readable, and if you think you can do better, than please be my guest to translate the following: Ik kan me niet herinneren dat ik jou om advies heb gevraagd betreffende vertaling onderwerpen. Hoe onbeschoft! I just had not the time to look over the entire article.