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With the Martha-Mary Convent in Moscow now fully restored and consecrated, the issue of returning the bodies of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara to Moscow for enshrinement at the convent will without a doubt be raised.

The mayor of Moscow has already raised it and the Patriarch of Moscow, Alexei II, has stated that such negotiations will have to be delicate.

The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (who is in possession of the Church of Saint Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem where the holy remains are kept) had stated that when restoration of the convent was completed, it would give as a gift to the convent the smaller of the two reliquaries that traveled throughout Russia in 2004. The larger reliquary containing the right arm of Saint Elizabeth is kept at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Sign in New York City.

The nuns at the Church of Saint Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem may have to end up keeping the smaller reliquary if the Martha-Mary convent is successful in obtaining the return of the holy remains. 

Although Saint Elizabeth expressed wanting to be buried at the Church of saint Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem, that was the before the events that would lead her to become a nun and found a convent.  Her will stated that she wanted to be buried at the Martha-Mary convent. 

I feel that the holy remains of Saints Elizabeth and Barabara should be returned to Moscow in accordance with Saint Elizabeth's will.

Your thoughts?


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The only special I saw of Ella was from Russia. It was in Russian with English sub-titles.

Was this the documentary "White Angel of Moscow" which Anna_K mentions in the thread, "Documentaries on Grand Duchess Elizabeth and her Convent (Russian TV)"?

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Here is a site on the Russian Orthodox Church of Saint Magdalene in Jeruslem: http://eng.palomnic.org/heritages/gethemany/

Scroll down the page and you will see the sarcophagi of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara.


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Wonderful news!!!!!  :) :)

The Church of the Protection of the Mother of God  at the Martha-Mary Convent has been solemnly consecrated!!! This is fantastic news in light of the complete restoration of the property.
Saint Elizabeth's dream of helping the poor is realized again!!!
Glory to God in the highest!!!

http://www.new.mmom.ru/index.php?id=39

http://www.new.mmom.ru/index.php?id=40

http://www.mospat.ru/index.php?page=42595

http://www.mospat.ru/index.php?page=42591

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/460605.html

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Can we order that as back issue ? Does the Catholic Church consider her a saint too ?

I have the article which I can scan and send to you as a pdf file, if you would like.

Just send me a PM with your e-mail address.


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There was a very interesting article about her in a Roman Catholic magazine in which it was written that she was the saint who most drew the different denominations together - her Lutheran upbringing, Catholic ancestry and Orthodox conversion combined the whole of Christianity and made her such an 'appealing' saint for people of many different Churches.  :D

I believe you are referring to the article in the April 2002 issue of Inside the Vatican magazine. The article contains a nice six page spread of photographs of Saint Elizabeth. 

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July 18 is the liturgical feast day of Saints Elizabeth and Varava in the Russian Orthodox Church. This year marks the 90th anniversary of their martyrdom.

Here are photos of the liturgical celebrations at the Martha-Mary Convent:


July 17: Vigil Service  http://www.new.mmom.ru/index.php?id=29

July 18: Divine Liturgy http://www.new.mmom.ru/ru/life/news/index.php?id=30

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Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna / Re: Ella's Companion Varvara
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:54:39 PM »
And here the image of real Varvara:



Was this the religious habit that Varvara wore as a nun at the Martha-Mary Convent?
It looks different (a darker color) from the one designed by Saint Elizabeth.


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interior of the Intercession Cathedral at the convent of Martha and Mary

Anna_k,

Did you take this picture?

If so, when? 

I see that the icons of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara are in the center of the Church along with that of Father Mirtofan. Relics are also present.

What feast day was it? 


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one more link
the video shows Pascha broadcast from the Convent of sts Martha and Mary and the church of st Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem (where repose the holy relics of the Grand Duchess)
http://files.tvspas.ru/Video/%d1%fe%e6%e5%f2%fb,%20%f0%e5%ef%ee%f0%f2%e0%e6%e8,%20%ee%e1%f1%f3%e6%e4%e5%ed%e8%ff/%cf%f0%e0%e7%e4%ed%e8%ea%20%cf%e0%f1%f5%e8%20%e2%20%cc%e0%f0%f4%ee-%cc%e0%f0%e8%e8%ed%f1%ea%ee%e9%20%ee%e1%e8%f2%e5%eb%e8%20(%d2%c2%d6%202008-04-26).wmv

this time you don't have to look through the "terrible" list of random cyrillic letters,
just click on the link above and the download process will start ( it is Windows media file)


Is there a second part to this video?

The video ends before the Pascha liturgy is yet to begin in Jerusalem.

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Thanks, Svetabel--your the best. I tried plugging it into our interlibrary loan database, though, and nothing came up. I guess it really is rare.  :(

grandduchessella,

I tried the interlibrary loan database that I have and was able to find the book.  Only one library in the USA has it!
I made a request to borrow it but it was turned down.  The library does not lend it out through interlibrary loan.

 :( I was so looking forward to seeing it.

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Here is another book on Ella that has not been mentioned. 

For those with a religious devotion to Saint Elizabeth, there's this book:



It is available at:

http://www.skete.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.display/product_id/1501/index.cfm

http://www.orthodoxpress.org/catalog/lives_i.htm

http://www.monasteryproducts.org/product_info.php?products_id=1844


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There was a very interesting article about her in a Roman Catholic magazine in which it was written that she was the saint who most drew the different denominations together - her Lutheran upbringing, Catholic ancestry and Orthodox conversion combined the whole of Christianity and made her such an 'appealing' saint for people of many different Churches.  :D

Here is an article that appeared in a Catholic magazine about Saint Elizabeth and her convent: http://www.cnewa.org/mag-article-bodypg-us.aspx?articleID=3060


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