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It would be more appropriate to call losers the ones who couldn't let the past go, like Kirill holed up in his mansion giving dispatches and behaving as though he was a sovereign
However how is it respectful to call anyone a loser?
In the end we didn't know any of them, and can hardly make such a judgment

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Yes. Even Ella was not loved by Miechen as she happen to offend her in some way. But the fact is that Ella was loved by many (The chapter by Zoya's was "Everybody fell in love with Ella."). Her later actions was considered even saintly, so she did have a good reputation.

It is not that I do not sympathize with Marie's troubles (parents, adoption and revolution), but she also had many things going for her. Her beauty, youth, fortune, a stable home in Sweden and a son to care and love. Yet, Marie felt restless enough to throw caution in the wind and went on her own way. If she felt her marriage was forced by Ella (or to please her). her later relationships with other men were not. She exerised poor judgement when she tried to built her own clothing company (her embroidery was good, but her start was actually given by Coco Channel, who did it as a favour to her brother Dimitri). With no head for business, her foray was doom to failure (as to other Romanov business ventures). It is sad to see someone who had so much (fortune & talent) to fail so spectacularly in life. That is why I found her whinning and the whole blame game irratable.


I do agree with you there. Maria quite clearly pitied herself.
I don't believe she was a loser though. I think she tried, and when her ventures fell through, there was someone else to blame in her eyes.
Many women have relationships that do not work out. I don't really factor that into my opinion of Maria.

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I am not saying that Marie was a brat. It is just that she wasn't easy to get along with. Most people who met Ella were full of praises of her kindness, beauty and generiousity. The same cannot be said not Marie (which is true). She was no saint, and is a loser in life because she cannot stick to anything it seems for long. That put her blame on Serge & especially Ella on shaky ground due to her own unsettling nature. It is easy to feel sorry for her being abandoned by her father & mother (through death). But it is what you do with your life that counts. To me she seems to put no responsibility in her life and just that beacuse I was born into this situation, I am allowed to fail and you all have to be sorry for me. Marie was born in the lap of luxury and married into the most stable Royal Families in Europe (it still is). Had she played her part of wife to Wilhelm and mother to Lennart, her life in Sweden could have been much more rewarding. Marie could also have taken a leaf out of Ella's book and work for the poor people in Sweden (her adopted country) and make a success out of it.

But she made a life for herself. She created her own beading embroidery business, she tried to please her aunt by marrying Wilhelm but in the end she needed more out of life. Are you really judging her for being unhappy in marriage? She tried to follow what made her truly happy, what more can you ask for from life. Perhaps she had her moments of indulgence and self-pity but you cannot deny she was an independent woman who tried to make a life for herself.
Maria was not Ella, they were entirely different. It is hardly fair to say she would have only been a success had she been like Ella, she tried to please Ella and it made her deeply unhappy. Sometimes it is just a clash.
It is not success that makes a person, but effort

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Felix and Irina in 1934 :




what a strange quality to the picture, it almost looks like a work of art :)

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Paleys
« on: January 22, 2010, 11:28:43 PM »
HRH Pavl Alexandrovich, Prince Peter Alexandrovich, Countess Shuvalova, Klenmikel, Duke Dona-Shlobittyen, Prince Trubyetskaya, Duchess Pistolkers. . .A. P. Polostov, Count Starzhenski, Prince Bargration, Count Totylebyen, Grabbe, Kaufmann, Nikolaev, Rayevskaya, Neklyoodov, Lazareva.

Sorry if i missed a few it's hard to read some of it. . .looks like Paul and his wife Olga were there. Can anyone find them in either pictures?

Thank you Sasha! The name Kleinmichael reminds me of Princess Paley writing about Vladimir being allowed to attend a ball (along with his parents) given by Countess Kleinmichael when he was 17, which would make it 1914, it was a costume party like this one and he was wearing, to quote Princess Paley, "coat of white cloth, embroidered in gold, and close-fitting, showed off his slender figure. Loose trousers made of blue silk, boots of soft red shagreen, and a cap of white cloth with wide bands of sable". maybe he is in this picture as well?

Yes, the same Countess Kleinmichel, they had such a beautiful villa just outside St Petersburg. She was very famous for her parties and managed to escape the revolution unharmed. I believe there is a story about her helping guests through the back entrance while the revolutionaries pounded at her door

Photos of her home:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q0ADiKHoDjo/SNR_4X2bjUI/AAAAAAAACho/L5A-9DLwj7o/s400/Kleinmichel+Villa.bmp

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q0ADiKHoDjo/SNR878JJzQI/AAAAAAAAChg/lSu1zyQDd0M/s400/Kleinmichel+Villa.facade.bmp


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The Imperial Family / Re: The Paleys
« on: January 22, 2010, 12:11:42 AM »
HRH Pavl Alexandrovich, Prince Peter Alexandrovich, Countess Shuvalova, Klenmikel, Duke Dona-Shlobittyen, Prince Trubyetskaya, Duchess Pistolkers. . .A. P. Polostov, Count Starzhenski, Prince Bargration, Count Totylebyen, Grabbe, Kaufmann, Nikolaev, Rayevskaya, Neklyoodov, Lazareva.

Sorry if i missed a few it's hard to read some of it. . .looks like Paul and his wife Olga were there. Can anyone find them in either pictures?

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sorry for the typo, i know its 1904  :-[

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GD Dimitri and Natalia Brassova, wife of GD Michael, London after revolution:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2845144660102753164axNkjp


GD Dmitri and GD Maria, 1909:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2500117740102753164WxPGxj


 (apology these are links and not immediate picture. they are still worth looking at, and lovely! )

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I found this old nes story on a web site called:

http://hollywoodheyday.blogspot.com/



From Luella O. Parsons:


Try to find Joan Crawford for the next two weeks. She has finished her last picture and she is taking a vacation and where she’s going only two or three people know, and they’re not telling. When Joan returns, she will be handed “The Education of a Princess” to read. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer has bought the screen rights to this interesting story by Grand Duchess Maria of Russia and we are told it’s for Joan.

Her imperial highness, the author, is well known and liked in Hollywood. She hasn’t let the tragedies of her life, and they have been many, affect her sense of humor.

Ansel Wichfeld, who sold M-G-M the grand duchess’ first book, is in Hollywood now, transacting business and selling other plays and novels.




hm I wonder if this is true, why didn't they make the film?

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Paleys
« on: January 15, 2010, 10:15:47 PM »
What a beautiful collection Princess Paley must have had, these and other jewels that have been posted. Did she sell them after the revolution?

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do you happen to know when the dress was made or where/when she wore it?

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Yes ashanti! your photographs are always treasures ,you must have quite a collection :D thank you for sharing

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Yes. I think her father Paval's abandonment of her & her brother in favour of his mistress left a void in her life. Serge was loving but more spoil than love. Ella had her demons (jealousy & sadness of not able to concieve for whatever reason) and unable to give Marie the kind of assurance she needed. Even without Ella's push, I don't think Marie would have made a good marriage by herself. I wonder if she was able to bond emotionally with her two half-sisters ?

Possibly they got along, but not close.
 Irina and Natalia spent most of their childhood in France not with Marie. Plus the age gap between Marie and Irina is quite big.

Yes I think it was not until after the Revolution that Marie saw much of Irina and Natasha, with N involved in fashion industry as a model and Marie so closely involved with Chanel, they worked the same circuit when they were all adults

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The Yussupovs / Re: Your favorite wacky Felix story
« on: January 13, 2010, 06:53:46 PM »
I remember reading in "The Court of the Last Tsar" that Felix's father was horrified at his son's cross-dressing and flirting with the guards, even though he himself had a handful of young male lovers.  ::) I would love to have known Felix. He sounds like he'd be a fun person to hang out with.

Is the information about Ct S-E having male lovers in The Court of the Last Tsar? Do you remember exactly what it said or still have the book?

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