Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - lori_c

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 [5] 6 7 ... 47
I am not sure, but I think there is another poster who has said that he lived near or in the town where Jack and Anna lived and that he had on occasion seen them walking together in town.

Actually, I am surprised that more people who lived in that Virginia town and knew or were at least acquainted with the Manahans have not come forward to post what they knew from first hand experience.

I, too, was looking forward to the reminiscences of bonedaddy, but as he began to write, I began to have some doubts as to his claims as to who he could be and how old he was and that none of what he said in red sounded like it came from a man who's father is 98 years old.  Even accepting the fact that bonedaddy could have been born last in a long chain of children, would he be younger than say 60?

Did those ravings in red sound like they came from a mature man of at least 60 years old?  Hmmmm   ???

This is just my humble opinion and if I am wrong, of course, I apologize.  But I just found all of this too confusing.  :-\

I was a bit confused as well.  I did read that Jack Manahan was the town eccentric but that that he was considered harmless.  I would have loved to have heard first hand about the escapades of the couple.  Just out of curiousity.  (Disregarding any AN connection of course and no DNA discussion).  Just any anectdoted, etc.. about how they were perceived by somebody firsthand.  It's a shame that as another poster pointed out, they just came "in like a hurricane" and began raving.  I wish that individual could have stuck to the topic they themselves started in the first place.  Oh well.........

Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga knew what was going to happen
« on: July 16, 2007, 04:41:36 PM »
No I certainly did not mean to come across as agitated.  I genuinely am interested in how Olga felt.  Especially after their imprisonment under the Bolshevik regime, not Kerensky.  IMO, at 23 she certainly would have been more perceptive about the outcome of her family.  Her tutors both described her as having a serious nature and a contemplative one.  She often was the one who took long walks with her father.   It could not have been easy to ponder her fate, and IMO she more than likely saw what was coming.

Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga knew what was going to happen
« on: July 16, 2007, 01:51:39 PM »
Again, thank you for pointing out my inadequacies on the subject of a person who lived 100 years ago whom neither of us knew personally.  So naturally, it would be assumed, that it was my opinion.
Furthermore, there are many threads on Olga on this site, that mention her depression and change in her character during the war and at the time of her imprisonment.  So IN MY OPINION, I BELIEVE THAT this was because of the bleak perspective she had of ever fulfilling a life that other Grand Duchesses before her had come to know consisting of marriage and family. 23 was by no mean old, but most other Grand Duchesses married or at least were betrothed by then -----     or the life the family had always known. Furthermore, IN MY OPINION, Olga was no fool.  At the time they were imprisoned in Ekaterinburg, the prison atmosphere would have been oppressive at best for a young woman coming of age.  By the way, that needs no evidence.  Would you like to be a young girl imprisoned at 23 with at the very least the threat of physical harm or death every single of your life, and not knowing how long that life might be?  By the way, that's my question.  No evidence needed.

And, since I am not privy to the  State Archives of the Russian Federation, located in Moscow perhaps you could clarify whatever "bliss" Olga may have experienced before the War and Revolution and quote from these diaries. I would very much like to hear that Olga had more than just one ball before the War and Revolution turned her world upside down.

Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga knew what was going to happen
« on: July 16, 2007, 01:14:29 PM »
Certainly she must have known that their would be no traditional boyfriend or marriage to look forward to.

There is simply no evidence of this.
When she had her "coming out" at 16, she danced and never had had such bliss.

Just out of curiosity, how do you know "she never had such bliss?"

Unforturnately this was the only time.

The only time she attended a ball? No, she attended them after the age of 16 as well. 

Well, by the age of 23 she was imprisoned in Ekaterinburg with a prison life.  For a young woman of 23 who had never dated or had a courtship, certainly it would have seemed a bleak perspective.  And it was my opinion after all.

How kind of you to point out that Olga attended balls after 16.  I would certainly like to hear those passages from her diaries.  And just out of curiosity how do you know she HAD any bliss?

The Windsors / Re: Princess Diana - Part 2
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:44:53 AM »
No, there isn't evidence except for passages in books that are not cited from a credible source.  But it was my thought that perhaps it WAS something she was looking forward to as the mother of a King.

Olga Nicholaievna / Re: Olga knew what was going to happen
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:36:17 AM »
I agree that Olga's depression was situational.   But also in my opinion, she was 23 at the time and her future looked pretty bleak.  Certainly she must have known that their would be no traditional boyfriend or marriage to look forward to.  Something it seems she wanted, much like Maria.  When she had her "coming out" at 16, she danced and never had had such bliss.  Unforturnately this was the only time.
There were many things that Olga must have contemplated as she grew to a grown woman during a perilous age for Russia.   And being sensitive as she was, it must have been torture.

The Habsburgs / Re: Inter-Marriage and In-Breeding
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:22:46 AM »
Truly.  The "Hanoverian" feature was quite prominent and appeared quite frequently beyond QV.  It's certainly an identifiable trait.

The Windsors / Re: Princess Diana
« on: July 12, 2007, 01:31:32 PM »
Well, the above is essentially what a lot of women would do.. ;D but unfortunately for Princess Diana she was in the Marriage for love. I believe She had money of her own (the flat in Mayfair) before She was married the money wasn't an issue!  Putting up with the Affair Between Camilla and her Husband put her under such tension and stress it was making her ill.  Be young and beautiful and do without love..well....get out of the marriage....tricky..... ::) find someone everyone would accept to remarry.....very hard!

I agree that she wanted the love of Charles and her marriage a success more than the jewels, money and the Queenly title.  Though she was his biggest asset, Charles could be quite jealous of the attention she got at times which only further distanced them.  I don't think she could have kept up the facade forever either as others before her had done.   But like Jacqueline Kennedy, she took her pride and achievement in raising her children who turned out to be two fine young men.  I think she was counting on William to restore her Royal Highness title when he became King.  But having the Queen tell them they ought to divorce must have been devastating to Diana.

Yes. Truer words could never be spoken. :'(

Well, I hope "bonedaddy" will reconsider sharing his experiences with the couple. Disregarding anything to do with GD Anastasia of course, it would be interesting to know how the Manahans lived from somebody who actually knew them. I would like to know just for my own curiosity about their eccentricities, and how they lived and how they were percieved in the community they lived in.  That's all I would like to hear about, if only for the sake of the topic originally meant to be discussed NOT about DNA arguments or anything else.  Just about them as people. 

I think I would very much like to have known her.  Not as an empress, but as a person.  It's hard to pass judgement on a woman who lived a century ago and who has been maligned by many a book or paper.

It was said by her family that though she could be aloof, when she was a friend, she was fiercly loyal and considerate. And a friend for life.  Though she may have been proud, I feel she had many good virtues that she passed to her daughters who, if they had lived, would have turned out to be fine young women. 

Well, the couple was very passionate and shared an intimate loving relationship all their lives.  There were mentions of "French Letters" a Victorian way of saying condoms found in the Ipatiev House in the FOTR.  Supposedly coming from the inventory taken from the house by the White investigators.

So perhaps they DID take precautions, not wanting a repeat hemophiliac.  As far as Nicholas fearing for Alexandra's health regarding childbirth, I do believe this was so.  But we can only speculate how far their passionate love affair played itself out after Alexei's birth.

I like to believe they were intimate in the truest sense of the word and the fact that Alexandra did not become pregnant after Alexei was simply nature taking it's course. Alix had very real physical ailments, not only those chalked up to hyperchondria.  She injured her legs as a child and had to have many "treatments" at Spas to recuperate, which she never fully did.  She also had rheumatism and sciatica which was inherited and could also have been a result of so many pregnacies so close together.  It would be no surprise that if she WOULD have gotten pregnant, it would have been the most difficult after all she'd been through.

Are those the same pearls that along with her  lace wedding veil were lost in the tragic plane crash?

Actually it is the Mauve Room chair.  Many famous photos of the IF were taken here because of the light.
There were many OTMAA poses as well as one w Ernie.

The Imperial Family / Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« on: June 12, 2007, 10:25:32 AM »
most any piece of jewelry could be hidden in those cocoa tins, if the piece were taken apart.    i seem to remember MP the younger's rather detailed description of how she disguised her jewelry (ie: how she had unstrung the diamond rays of a tiara & dropped them into a bottle of paraffin wax (or something) to make it look like a paperweight....or perhaps she dropped them into a bottle of ink & put something else in wax to make it look like a paperweight?).   also, does anyone know how big the cocoa tins were?   i remember my grandmother used to get cocoa in tins the size of hat-boxes (i used to put my Legos in them).

MP describes hiding her Swedish "papers" in a bar of soap or wax depending on which translation you read, so she could cross the border to safety.  So why not pieces of jewelry?  It could happen. :)

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 [5] 6 7 ... 47