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The Imperial Family / Re: identification
« on: February 10, 2010, 07:52:14 PM »
Out of curiosity, does anyone know who the woman in the bottom right corner of this picture is?



Just wondering, because she has a striking resemblance to my mom!

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Having Fun! / Re: Make Yourself a Romanov! [Photo]
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:39:02 PM »
I did something similar to that Winter Palace picture today, because there's a castle on my university campus and there was a blizzard and it reminded me of the Romanovs...

Black and White


And then "Cyanotype"...



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Having Fun! / Re: songs about naotmaa
« on: February 06, 2010, 02:50:45 PM »
...And here's the rest!

First: Baker Baker. I view this as from Alexandra's point-of-view during the family's captivity in Tobolsk.

Baker Baker, baking a cake
Make me a day
Make me whole again
And I wonder what's in a day
What's in your cake this time
>Alexandra feels a sort of "emptiness" as the family is forced out of their home and under house arrest

The chorus however makes me think of someone searching for the Romanovs, looking through places like Tobolsk and Ipatiev to try and figure out what happened...
Here...
There must be something here
There must be something here
Here


And then later in the song, back to Alexandra...
Time
Thought I'd make friends with time
Thought we'd be flying
Maybe not this time
>Alexandra wasn't accepted by a lot of the Russian aristocracy, but she thought that eventually things would change, not that everyone's hatred for her would increase.

Then there's Icicle. The first time I heard this song I wasn't really paying attention to the words, so I caught lines here and there that related to OTMA, but somehow totally missed all of the overt sexual references in the song. So anyway, most of it doesn't make me think of them, but those few lines still hold that connection for me... Plus, the opening piano part is gorgeous. Mysterious, then evolving into something innocent and fairytale-like, then collapsing into chaos. It in itself is metaphorical for the Romanovs.

Greeting the monster in our Easter dresses
Father says bow your head like the Good Book says
I think the Good Book is missing some pages...
>the girls' interactions with Rasputin
Gonna lay down >When I first heard this line repeating throughout the song, it seemed like a haunting foreshadowing to me, of how they were going to die. ("lay down," collapse, buried, etc.)

And the last is Cloud on my Tongue. I also imagine this song as taking place in Tobolsk.
Someone's knockin' on my kitchen door
Leave the wood outside, what
All the girls here are freezing cold
>Feels like a little scene from their lives in Siberia.

Don't stop now, what you're doing
What you're doing, my ugly one
Bring them all here
Hard to hide a hundred girls in your hair
>Reminds me of all the jewels they were concealing.

The girl's in circles and circles, got to stop spinning
Circles and circles and circles again
Thought I was over the bridge now
>Feels like the moment when they were told they were being taken somewhere else. They thought they were done with that, but they realize that it's not even close to being over, and it's dizzying.

Well, that's it for that project!!
Also, I heard Love Vigilantes by Iron & Wine (originally New Order) the other day and it reminded me of Nicholas on the front:

Oh, I've just come from the land of the sun
From a war that must be won in the name of truth
With our soldiers so brave your freedom we will save
With our rifles and grenades and some help from God

I want to see my family
My wife and child are waiting for me
I've got to go home
I've been so alone, you see

You just can't believe the joy I did receive
When I finally got my leave and I was going home
Oh, I flew through the sky, my convictions could not lie
For my country I would die, and I will see it soon

I want to see my family
My wife and child are waiting for me
I've got to go home
I've been so alone, you see

When I walked through the door my wife she lay upon the floor
And with tears her eyes did soar, I did not know why
Then I looked into her hand and I saw the telegram
Said that I was a brave, brave man, but that I was dead

I want to see my family
My wife and child are waiting for me
I've got to go home
I've been so alone, you see

I want to see my family
My wife and child are waiting for me
I've got to go home
I've been so alone, you see

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 06, 2010, 02:34:48 PM »
New one: When you find the teacher at your university who occasionally teaches a Russian history class and make him agree to teach it next semester. I did this yesterday... lol.

Also, when you spend hours outside in blizzard conditions getting frostbite just so you can take pictures because you swear you can almost see OTMAA, running around out there and playing...

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Having Fun! / Re: Question about the 1997 movie Anastasia!
« on: February 06, 2010, 02:31:56 PM »
I remember one with short hair as well, which is probably Tatiana. So, hair up = Olga, Short hair = Tatiana, Hair down = Maria. Though I haven't seen it in a while so I could be wrong.

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 05, 2010, 05:29:49 PM »
WHOA!!!!
There are lost IF photos he took??!!?!?
I had no idea! What year were these taken?

I don't know much about them, but I read somewhere that his pictures of the IF were confiscated when he left Russia after the revolution and he only managed to keep a picture of Alexei, which I don't think anyone's ever seen. Anyone have more information?

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 04, 2010, 06:53:03 PM »
You know you're obsessed when someone in your photography class brings up the work of Prokudin-Gorsky, and you mention how disappointing it is that his pictures of the IF are lost.

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 03, 2010, 10:12:29 PM »
That's why I feel so lucky to have had the history teacher I did in high school... she must've been an OTMA fan, because she did a whole unit on NAOTMAA, showed us tons of pictures, made us name them all on our tests, showed us tons of documentaries on them and the whole Anastasia "imposter" thing... we even watched Nicholas & Alexandra, and when it was 'bring your little sister to school' day we watched the cartoon Anastasia. I credit that teacher with introducing me to NAOTMAA, no idea what else I would have had to obsess over if it wasn't for her! In recent months I've been tempted to get a copy of Romanovy for her to show in class, since it's more historically accurate, but the tv in her classroom is small and I doubt a big class could all read the subtitles.

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Having Fun! / Re: More Romanov Dreams?
« on: February 03, 2010, 06:38:23 PM »
Well, it's not new, but I had one a while ago where NAOTMAA were trying to escape captivity at the AP or something, and for some reason this could be achieved just by throwing a veil over Alexandra? Like, I guess she was the one everyone was mad at or something. But yeah, so they were just walking around in broad daylight and pushing her around in a wheelchair and she had this black veil over her head. And I was seeing it through like a film camera or something, but it was in color and it had sound, so I remember watching it going "Finally, I know exactly what they look and sound like!!" And I remember Alexandra saying something about "My wonderful children have devised a way to get me out of here," and then I remember Anastasia talking and me thinking "That's just what I imagined her voice to be like" (which, DUH, it was my dream), and then either Olga or Tatiana talked, but I can't remember what they sounded like or what any of them said. It was weird.

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Having Fun! / Re: songs about naotmaa
« on: February 03, 2010, 06:27:53 PM »
Whoops... didn't mean to make it all italic! Looks like I used the code for bold somewhere by mistake. Sorry everyone. :P

Anyway... Tori Amos's album Under the Pink is best known around here for the song "Yes, Anastasia," but I think a lot of the other tracks might have been influenced by the Romanovs as well... let's start with Track 1...

Pretty Good Year
This song seems to take place on the cusp of the Revolution, or perhaps the end of 1916. Lyrics:

Tears on the sleeve of a man
Don't want to be a boy today
>Nicholas, facing the end of his empire, has to make some pretty big decisions and doesn't want to be seen as a coward.
I heard the eternal footman
Bought himself a bike to race
>Everything is changing, friends are becoming enemies, etc.
And Greg he writes letters and burns his CDs >Rasputin and his apocalyptic notes. The second half of the line doesn't work though, obviously!
They say you were something in those formative years >Nicholas being so adored, then slowly falling out of favor over the years...
Hold onto nothing as fast as you can
Well, still, a pretty good year.
>Suddenly they have nothing left, but reflecting on 1916, it was still good until the end.

Maybe a bright sandy beach
is gonna bring you back, back, back
>Reminiscing about family trips, the better days, etc.
Maybe not, so now you're off
you're gonna see America
Well let me tell you something about America...
>The Romanovs thought so many countries would take them in, but none did. This last line seems like someone is breaking the news to them, and the piano part briefly turns dark and moody after this as well.

Then the bridge... it seriously makes me cry.
Some things are melting now
Some things are melting now
>The way this is played, it's so peaceful and lament-like, as if it's a requiem for the Romanovs as their old lives fade away.

Then the next line comes out of nowhere, suddenly angry and forceful. It sounds to me like Alexandra crying out for someone to make Alexei better, voicing her frustration that she's done all she can, but only received contempt for her efforts.
Well, hey...
What's it gonna take
Til my baby's alright?
What's it gonna take til my baby's alright?


Then the music gets peaceful again...
And Greg he writes letters with his birthday pen
Sometimes he's aware that they're drawing him in
>Rasputin knowing that someone was going to kill him
Lucy was pretty, your best friend agreed
Well, still, pretty good year
>And I'm not really sure about these last lines, lol. Unless there's someone related to the Romanovs named Lucy that I'm unaware of.

Next up, track 3: Bells For Her
The piano in this song is one of the most haunting things I've ever heard. It sounds like an out-of-tune music box. The first time I heard it, I just imagined someone going into the abandoned AP and finding all of their old things, re-exploring their lives, playing with old toys that haven't kept their sound, etc.

The most "Romanovian" part of the song I think is the chorus, a simply repeated:
Can't stop what's coming
Can't stop what is on it's way

Just sounds so much like their despair towards the end... the country was falling out of their hands and there was nothing they could do. In fact, that's actually a line in another verse, which seems to invoke visuals of the Revolution:

Bells and footfalls and soldiers and dolls
Brothers and lovers she and I were
Now she seems to be sand under his shoes
There's nothing I can do.


But the other verses in the song seem to be about the Anna Anderson issue, as if Anastasia is somehow speaking to her...
And through the walls they made their mudpies
"I've got your mind," I said
She said, "I've your voice"
I said, "you don't need my voice, girl
You have your own"
But you never thought it was enough of...
Anna Anderson created this new identity to get away from her actual life.
So they went, years and years
Like sisters, blanket girls
Always there through that and this
"There's nothing we cannot ever fix," I said
This verse is so evocative of OTMA and their devotion to each other.

And now I speak to you, are you in there?
You have her face and her eyes
But you are not her
Another Anna Anderson example.

And the last verse...
Can't stop loving... you
Can't stop what is on its way
And I see it coming
And it's on its way
>The Romanov's devotion to each other was in some ways a contributing factor to their downfall

Then track 4, Past The Mission
The chorus of 'Past the mission, behind the prison tower' made me think of this song as centered on people searching for the Romanovs after their death, trying to figure out what happened to them, etc.

And the main verse that continues this theme for me is the third one, which seems to speak of Alexei and Anastasia, and the mystery of how their bodies weren't found:
Hey, they found a body
Not sure it was his
Still, they're using his name
And she gave him shelter
And somewhere I know she knows
Somewhere I know she knows
Some things only she knows...
The first part of the verse talks about how when NAOTMAA's bodies were found, everyone disagreed on who was who. Then the focus seems to shift to Anastasia, talking of her love for her brother. Then at the end it goes back to the mystery, and how there are still some things that we will never know, because we weren't there.

Only three songs left!! (You're probably glad, lol.)

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Having Fun! / Re: songs about naotmaa
« on: February 02, 2010, 11:07:37 PM »
Wow, I imagined it as something completely different, but I like the slow, sad melody. It does seem like an Alix & Alexei sort of thing.

More from me! First, Tori's song 1000 Oceans reminds me of NAOTMAA for some reason, even though they were never really separated, so there was no need for any of them to "find" each other. But the lyrics still fit them, because any of them would be that devoted to each other to seek one of them out if they were lost. I especially think of it as representing Alexandra's devotion to her children. Here's the lyrics:

These tears I've cried
I've cried 1000 oceans
And if it seems
I'm floating in the darkness
Well, I can't believe that I would keep
Keep you from flying
And I would cry 1000 more
If that's what it takes
To sail you home
Sail you home
Sail you home

I'm aware what the rules are
But you know that I will run
You know that I will follow you
Over silbury hill
Through the solar field
You know that I will follow you

And if I find you
Will you still remeber
Playing at trains
Or does this litte blue ball
Just fade away
Over silbury hill
Through the solar field
You know that I will follow you
I'm aware what the rules are
But you know that I will run
You know that I will follow you

These tears I've cried
I've cried 1000 oceans
And if it seems
I'm floating in the darkness
Well I can't believe that I would keep
Keep you from flying
So I will cry 1000 more
If that's what it takes
To sail you home
Sail you home
Sail you home
Sail
Sail you home[/b]

Then I have two songs of Tori's which remind me of Anastasia. The first is Girl. The refrain especially: "She's been everybody else's girl, maybe one day she'll be her own." It reminds me of how Anastasia unfortunately never really got to grow up as much as her sisters did; her father had already abdicated before she turned 16. But in the end she did become "her own"... overlooked for OTM during her life, but ultimately becoming the most famous. And then her age also comes into play in the second verse...

And in the doorway they stay
And laugh as violins fill with water
Screams from the bluebells, can't make them go away
We'll I'm not seventeen, but I've cuts on my knees
Falling down as the winter takes one more cherry tree


The "cherry trees" here represent all the empires that collapsed as a result of World War I. The Russian Empire fell in February... the winter took another cherry tree. I'm not really sure about the meaning of the rest of the verse, but it seems very imposing, like there is something there that the subject of the song doesn't like and that scares her. For Anastasia, I could easily see this being personified as the Bolshevik guards. And then of course, "I'm not seventeen, but I've cuts on my knees." She's young, but she's already been through so much.

Last verse:
And in the mist there she rides
Castles are burning in my heart
And as I twist I hold tight
And I ride to work every morning, wondering why
"Sit in the chair and be good now"
Oh, and become all that they told you
The white coats enter her room
and I'm callin' my baby, callin' my baby, callin' my baby, callin'...


"Castles are burning"... another Revolution reference. And the last few lines without a doubt evoke the execution for me. "Sit in the chair and be good now"... the guards telling them to stand still, and wait for the photograph that never got taken. "The white coats enter her room, and I'm callin' my baby"... I can just see Alexandra screaming for her children as the Bolsheviks came in and started shooting. (Of course, the actual "white coats" would've been monarchists, but you can't be perfect.)

And then there's the song Take To The Sky, which seems to be a perfect portrait of Anastasia's personality. The lyrics:
This house is like Russia
With eyes cold and grey
You got me moving in a circle
I dyed my hair red today
I just want a little passion
To hold me in the dark
I know I've got some magic
Buried deep in my heart yeah

But my priest says
You ain't saving no souls
My father says
You ain't making any money
My doctor says
You just took it to the limit
And here I stand
With this sword in my hand
You can say it one more time
What you don't like
Let me hear it one more time then
Have a seat while I
Take to the sky

My heart is like the ocean
It gets in the way
So close to touching freedom
Then I hear the guards call my name

But my priest says
You ain't taking no souls
My father says
You ain't making any money
My doctor says
You just took it to the limit
And here I stand
With this sword in my hand
You can say it one more time
What you don't like
Let me hear it one more time then
Have a seat while I
Take to the sky

If you don't like me just a little
Why do you hang around
(There she goes again
Wearing those purple panties
There she goes again
Wearing her heart
There she goes again)
Why do you
Take it, take it, take it...

You can say it one more time
You can say it one more time
You can say it one more time
What you don't like
Let me hear it one more time then
Have a seat while I
Take to the sky


Just the whole wild/brave thing, you know?
It looks like I have 6 songs left, all from the same album as "Yes, Anastasia." I doubt I'll be able to fit them all in one post, so expect a few more from me soon. :)

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 02, 2010, 10:20:07 PM »
Now, how many things labled "American" in the title speak nicely about any tsar/emperor/king?  Here, our culture teaches us to think that any country with a monarchy is backwards and messed up, so I'm not surprised American Girl Dolls didn't exactly spare Nicky...

haha yes, just how in Star Wars and so many other movies all the bad guys mysteriously have British accents while the good guys have American ones...

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Having Fun! / Re: Romanov-look-alikes!
« on: February 02, 2010, 09:32:36 PM »
And today I came across this picture of a young Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (Elizabeth II's mother) and thought she looked like Anastasia...

http://pics.livejournal.com/namehimgeorge/pic/0001504b

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 02, 2010, 09:29:38 PM »
It's easy to find clothes like OTMA'S one!

I agree, since one of the dolls is supposed to be from 1912. And I think they actually have a new one now from 1914... their outfits would probably work. And if you're creative you could even make your own. My grandma used to make me clothes for my American Girl dolls... I'll have to look around for them next time I go home to see if any are OTMA-like!

Yes! :) The character Samantha is supposedly from 1904, and Rebecca is from 1914 (In her story she's actually FROM RUSSIA lol But sadly in the back of the book it talks badly of Tsar Nicholas II [Her character is Jewish and moved to America to escape the pogroms]).

A lot of her accessories are supposed to be Russian though. Like her brooch and shawl:

http://store.americangirl.com/agshop/static/rebeccadoll.jsf/title/Rebecca/saleGroupId/1182/uniqueId/628/nodeId/11/webMenuId/5/LeftMenu/TRUE

I find Sam's collection is more OTMA-like.

Especially this dress:





(You'll have to forgive me, I'm a hardcore collector of these dolls. ;) ).

Oh, that's right. I was thinking Samantha was from the 1910s. I'd heard the new doll was from Russia and I got excited. :) I actually went to the children's section in my bookstore the other day and skimmed through the "Meet Rebecca" book! And don't worry, I used to collect them too. I have all but one of the original girls. I keep forgetting to buy her to complete the set... better do it before they retire them all!

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Having Fun! / Re: You know you're obsessed with the Romanovs when... Part 2
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:15:49 PM »
It's easy to find clothes like OTMA'S one!

I agree, since one of the dolls is supposed to be from 1912. And I think they actually have a new one now from 1914... their outfits would probably work. And if you're creative you could even make your own. My grandma used to make me clothes for my American Girl dolls... I'll have to look around for them next time I go home to see if any are OTMA-like!

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