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I've seen it written in books that George I was planning to abdicate that year (1913) as it was the 50th year of his rule. He was going to turn the reigns over to Constantine when the war was over. Unfortunately, an assassin stopped that plan. I've never read that he would go to England though--I assumed it would be Denmark (where he kept property) with visits to his wife's home in Russia.

It's from the Royal Collection but doesn't give any info as to what they were doing. It looks like a royal version of camping. :)

Because of her various charities, interests, helping of fellow royals and post-WW2 economics, her fortune wasn't as immense as it had once been. She had to sell the house she had bought for George and Waldemar after the war (before or after George's death I don't know). She had serious issues with Peter so I don't know if the children shared equally or if Eugenie was favored.

The year was 1906 but I don't know the location.

Iberian Royal Families / Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« on: June 02, 2014, 12:43:33 PM »
I called it a few months ago and got pounced on (on another forum). I just really had a feeling he would step down--it just seemed like a perfect storm of political, personal and health reasons compelling the decision.

The Imperial Family / Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« on: May 25, 2014, 06:17:25 AM »
So after Prince Charles's remarks (privately uttered) comparing Putin to Hitler, GDss Maria V has weighed in:

Alexander Zakatov, head of the Romanov administration, said Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna backed Mr Putin in his dispute with Ukraine over Crimea...“The Grand Duchess has offered her reasoning why the Crimea had always been with Russia,” he said. “It was a tragic mistake of the 20th century that suddenly Crimea was out of Russia.”

Yes, it seems like the 2nd one was done in order to be accomplished in the Kaiser's presence. The original civil ceremony and evening religious ceremonies (Lutheran and Orthodox) were done on May 2.

They have 2 wedding dates: 2 May 1938 in Potsdam and May 4 in Doorn

Back on topic please. The discussion on French royals belongs in the appropriate sub-forum and thread(s).

French Royals / Re: The Grimaldi's of Monaco Part II
« on: May 14, 2014, 01:37:20 PM »
[quote author=Превед link=topic=17347.msg535336#msg535336 date=1399926851

On a forum about Russian royals of mainly German descent at a Francophone court, vacationing in Finland, Poland and Denmark, I see it as my duty to help others learn Russian, German, French, Danish, Finnish, Swedish etc. just like I expect them to help me learn Russian through content-based learning. No better way to learn than through a subject one is already passionate about.

I'm sure everyone appreciates that your are passionate about the subject of Russian history as well as the subject of language and etymology. However, I do feel I need to point out the FA's past reminders to posters over the years that English is the language of the Forum regardless of what the Forum is devoted to. It also states in the Rules one of the reasons why:

"With some many people posting now, in order for the search function to work at its best to find information, we will now ask you to use these standard ENGLISH spellings when posting in the forum UNLESS directly quoting a source.  We know that these words can be spelled differently in other languages, but we want the search to return as many results as possible. "

There are log-standing rules regarding language on the Forum that I would ask all participants to abide by. Thank you.

Having Fun! / Re: Rare Pictures XII
« on: May 08, 2014, 08:33:51 AM »
This thread is awfully long--especially for one devoted to photos. The next person who wants to post, please start Rare Pictures XIII and then this thread will be closed off. Thanks. :)

At any rate, that discussion would go under Ernie's thread. This thread is for George Donatus and his family--Cecilie and their children. Ernie's relationships with his children (Elizabeth, George Donatus and Ludwig) belong in that thread.

Let's not get too far off the topic of George Donatus and his family please.

In the book "Prinz Max von Baden: Der letzte Kanzler des Kaisers" is a mention that Thyras and Ernst Augusts eldest son Georg Wilhelm was handicaped and unable to join the army.
What was wrong with him?

I read an obituary once which stated that he was lame--crippled from the effects of blood poisoning after he injured his leg as a young adult. I don't know anything further though. Other obits said he was a captain in the Austrian Army but that could a) be wrong b) have been honorary or c) have occurred before the blood poisoning incident.

Given that the parents were not known for being pro-British, I would be a bit surprised if they employed English nannies, but will check. According to Coryne Hall's 'Imperial Dancer', Andrei at any rate spoke excellent English, presumably learned in boyhood.


The Vladimirs did employ an English nanny for their children--Millicent "Milly" Crofts (1852-1941) from 1876. She taught the children English early on, they sang English songs and she read classic English books such as Oliver Twist to them. Her great-aunt Kitty Sutton had been nurse to the future Alexander III and it was Kitty who recommended her to the Vladimirs. Kitty was given an apartment in the Winter Palace and later a grace-and-favour place near Tsarskoe Selo and, when she died, Alexander led her funeral procession to her burial in Smolenska Cemetary.  Grand Duke Nicholas "Nixa" had his own English nurse, Jane Isherwood as did their sister Alexandra (who died young), Margaret Hughes. Alexander III and Empress Marie also employed an English nanny who was especially close to Grand Duchess Olga who adored her.

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