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I don't want this to veer too far off-topic but was she the sister of Hans Viktor von Salviati? He is sometimes listed as 'Graf' and was one of the plotters (perhaps along with Louis Ferdinand?) in the failed attempt to assassinate Hitler. He was later executed for his role. I don't know if a) they were related b) he was actually a 'Graf' since sometimes it's listed and sometimes not and c) whether it was hereditary and, if Dorothea was related, their father was a Graf or if the title was bestowed on him individually.

The Danish Royal Family / Re: Prince Knud (1900-1976) and his family
« on: March 03, 2014, 06:23:58 PM »
Parts in quotation from the blog of Trond Norén Isaksen

" The relationship between the two brothers had apparently never been very close, but it was the new Act of Succession which damaged it beyond repair...according to Count Ingolf, things “went completely wrong” when his younger brother was born in 1942 and the parents chose the name Christian, which would have been the name of the son Frederik “had counted on having”.

Since Queen Ingrid had trouble conceiving and difficult pregnancies, she was advised to have no more children after her 3rd daughter. Knud was thus created 'Heir to the Throne'.

The government had attempted previously to update the constitution (of 1915) but it had a low turnout so it wasn't approved without the needed majority. The WW2 years further postponed the issue but it was brought up again afterwards and this time with a new Act of Succession (perhaps it was felt this would bring attention to the larger issues?) and the debate quickly came to center on the issue of the 'choice' between the respective families. The press was pretty brutal in their comparisons (strapping King, attractive Queen, 3 lovely daughters) and the plainer (some called ugly) family of Knud & Caroline Mathilde. " Knud apparently blamed his sister-in-law Queen Ingrid for the change even though the changes weren't suggested by the King. (Though Ingrid did later write a letter of thanks to the politician who suggested the change). Count Ingolf admits he was disappointed, but adds: “One has of course gotten used to it. Said okay, that is obviously how life is meant to be. Then one just has to go on in a different way”. Count Ingolf points out that it was a much harder blow for his father, who “lived with the awareness throughout a long life”

Prime Minister Erik Eriksen later told the historian Tage Kaarsted that the Prince during the State Council itself had tried to sabotage the signing of the constitution. The two brothers hardly ever spoke again--and then only at official events. “I think my parents only saw King Frederik and Queen Ingrid when they met at official functions”, Count Ingolf says, “except for my 21st birthday, when I was to receive the Order of the Elephant from King Frederik because I had come of age. It happened during a lunch at my parents’ at Sorgenfri [Palace], but then they did of course have a reason!”

According to Ingolf, Knud never got over his bitterness for the few years that he outlived his brother and would've preferred to have spent those years, few that they were, as monarch. Perhaps to highlight the difference of what may have been, he left explicit instructions to have a quiet funeral.  Ingolf decided that a decade plus of bitterness was enough and approached his cousin about a rapprochement (to the initial displeasure of his mother). "Ingolf “did simply not find it right that the older generation’s problems should continue to bother us. We of the next generation were not to have our lives ruined because our parents could not get along [...]”.

Count Ingolf, who lost his royal title when he married a commoner in 1968, annually receives 1.5 million DKK from the civil list as some sort of “compensation” for losing the throne. The siblings are seen at larger family events but the relationship on the whole still doesn't seem particularly warm.

Iberian Royal Families / Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« on: February 24, 2014, 05:47:33 PM »
It could have had to do with the turmoil of the post-WW2 era. She had lived at Castle of Seebenstein in Austria until the German occupation when the whole family relocated to Bern, Switzerland, where she died in Gunten.

She had kept busy during her widowhood visiting her numerous nieces and nephews and negotiating for her nephew Dom Duarte to be recognized as Manuel's heir and serving as regent for Duarte until he came of age.

The Windsors / Re: Zara & Peter Phillips
« on: February 24, 2014, 05:34:05 PM »
Didn't this happen with Princess Beatrice as well? Also I think there was once a deal for Peter's wedding photos. And the 'lesser' members of the family like Freddie Windsor have done covers and all.

**edited to Add--Ah, going to read the story they mention Phillip and Freddie as well. LOL**

I don't mind it so much--Zara and Mike are public figures (both due to connections and their sporting achievements) without being royal. They have no titles or formal responsibilities and take no money from the public. If they choose to go this way, I don't see a problem with it as they are more celebrity than royal. JMO

Reading her bio on Wikipedia, with its detailing of her political interference, she seems like the awful Fredericka of Greece. Combine this with her reported hautiness and absence from the country for most of the year, plus the King's hijinks, and in any hot-blooded country there would have been a revolution!

True. Even if we take into consideration that Gustav V acted quite moderately and that his sexual antics didn't become known untill the 1950s, it goes to show what neutrality in destabilizing conflicts like WW1 can do for a regime's stability.

Neutrality didn't help Greece much in WW1, unfortunately.

Victoria did her main duty and provided several sons so that always gains some goodwill. Plus, during many years of her 'queenship', a lot of her duties were carried out by Crown Princess Margaret who was phenomenally popular as well as her sister-in-law Ingeborg so there was someone to pick up the slack. Victoria was lucky in that regard.

Ah, found it. It's  Prince Nikita Alexandrovitch.

Showing off her wealth ? She did have a bigger collection than her successor "Dick" (Viktoria Adeheld, Duchess of Coburg). 

It was to raise money (and she did, a "remarkable large sum") for a local children's hospital. The exhibition was held in her palace in Coburg. She rented showcases for it and dragooned her daughters and other relations (including her nephew but not yet son-in-law Kyril and Dowager Duchess Alexandrine) into participating as well. All the daughters displayed jewels (with Missy's being particularly remarked on) as well as various objects d'art, furs and laces (some of which had belonged to the late Empress Marie), fans and heirlooms such as the tea service which had been a wedding gift to Marie from her father Alexander II and Duke Alfred's silver model ships. The coronation robes worn by Marie at her brother's coronation and the robes worn by her daughters at the coronation of Edward VII were also on display.
Here are some more photos--it was covered in the German amgazines of the time:

Is the young man in naval uniform Nagorny?


I think it's one of Xenia's sons but I don't have my magazine page accessible (it had captions) and the web image didn't give identifications.

Were they just done? They are all based on known photographs and vary in period (Victoria Luise around 1908, Dona around 1912, August Wilhelm in the 1930s, etc).

They use this well-known image in the article--I wonder if he originally took it or if he just had it in his album. Some of the digitized photos contain casual images that were nonetheless published in the Illustrated London News and other magazines of the day--including some of the 'snowy day' photos:

Here are some of the digitized images (attribution on image):

Where they may need help is on identification--many (apart from Nicholas II) are just labeled '5 boys' or '3 gentlemen' that sort of thing.

Paul Gilbert reports that 22 photo albums of G. D. Alexander Mikhailovich's family have been found in England, taken by children's English tutor, Herbert Stewart.

They have been known for about a year (with the new exhibit) and some are already digitized online-- though Gilbert may have just become aware of them--they just haven't been on display outside of the Stewart Museum. Either that or there are 2 separate album collections of Stewarts. The story came out first in the Yorkshire Post as both museums are housed there. Gilbert pretty much lifted the entire Yorkshire news article without attribution (including photo) which wasn't very well done in my opinion. The full article:

They are housed at The National Media Museum at Bradford in Yorkshire, probably in the National Photography Collection. The Stewart Museum has his diaries and, while they were on loan to the Beverly House for research, gave the location of the albums which had somehow been forgotten over the years.

"Between 1908 and 1917, Percy Stewart's brother Herbert was English Tutor to the six sons of Grand Duke Alexander Michailovitch and his wife Grand Duchess Xenia, sister of Tsar Nicholas II. A keen photographer, he created an archive of 22 photograph albums, now housed at the National Media Museum at Bradford, showing the daily lives of the royal children whom he tutored in Russia. On his trips home, he regularly visited Percy and his wife Katharine here at Burnby Hall, and they occasionally feature in his photographs. One album also features a visit by Percy to see Herbert at the Grand Duke's Crimean estate at Ai-Todor in 1914. In March 1917, he kept a brief diary outlining the very early days of the Russian Revolution from his unique perspective. The diary is on display in the Stewart Museum, along with copies of some of his photographs. "Mr Stewart and the Romanovs", a new museum booklet featuring a selection of Herbert Stewart's photographs is on now sale at our Visitor Centre. "

The above exhibit referenced was at Burnby Hall which is situated in the town of Pocklington, on the edge of the Yorkshire Wolds. It belonged to world traveler Major Percy Marlborough Stewart. The Stewart Museum within the Gardens is dedicated to his extraordinary life and contains the fascinating artifacts he brought back with him. Many of these have been recognised by UNESCO as of national and international importance. The diaries of his brother, as noted, are on display and the albums were given to the National Media Museum though they keep some copies on display at the Stewart Museum.
I actually had this on my 'to do' list for the gardens before I read of the connection to the Romanovs. I hope the exhibit will still be on going when I get there.

The National Media Museum does digitize some of their collections so, hopefully, this will be one of them someday. And, given the interest in the albums will be further displayed outside of the exhibit book on Burnby.

Mr Stewart also took some well-known photos of Grand Duchess George at her hospital in Britain in 1915--those are also part of his album collection at the Media Museum.

Stewart, like fellow tutor Sidney Gibbes, was a Yorkshireman (as shown by the location of his home and albums).  He left Russia for good at the end of 1917 after Xenia and her family had departed for the Crimea. He stayed in touch with them by letter until their arrival in France and later some of them in England. Stewart lived the remainder of his life in the Basse-Pyrenees. He died in 1960, the same year as Grand Duchess Xenia.

First--I *love* House of Cards--anyone who gets Netflix should definitely watch. :)

Secondly, yes, Sebastian is a descendant:


He was present at the 1998 reburial of the Imperial Family. His grandmother, Catherine, was born in 1915 and only died in 2007. She was the last remaining Romanov who was born before the Revolution and her death marked the end of the male line of the Constantinovichi.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: February 15, 2014, 09:14:53 PM »
The royal and wealthy families from the Middle East seem to have filled that gap in recent decades.

The Windsors / Re: Windsor Jewels Pt 7
« on: February 14, 2014, 12:42:25 PM »
The necklace which was given to the Queen as a wedding present by the Nizam of Hyderabad was recently worn by HRH Catherine of Cambridge. Unfortunately I can't seem to upload the image, can anyone else help?

The whole article with many more photos:

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