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Oh wow, I'm always up to discovering new work from this master.

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Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich / Re: Qoutes From Aleksey?
« on: January 18, 2005, 10:16:24 AM »
Mandie! That is actually my favorite letter of his! haha!

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Aw I have practically every language BUT Russian :( sorry. The French version is beautiful though.

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I think in some places the filmmakers definitely could have used Menken's magical touch with the songs. Newman's score was flawless, really. I have the 34 track bootleg of nothing but instrumental score. Flaherty had some low points in his songs though. Probably why you only hear two songs played instrumentally throughout the score instead of more than that. Another reason only 2 are heard in the score is probably because the other songs do not concern plot much. Journey and December are focal points in plot as well as characterisation. The other songs seem like they are just there. While most of the others are good (not brilliant), I think Menken could have done better... on the other hand, we might have gotten stuck with that silly scale he uses after every ballad (Bass low B, F, C, D, D, F, E, F, F, then Treble: A, high E, high F, high F.) Forgive if I am wording that incorrectly, I'm just practicing as a hobby. At any rate, it's cheesy.

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Gah! You'll never believe this!
For Christmas I asked for a music box that played 'Greensleeves', which I really wanted. But, when my parents went into San Francisco Music Bx Co, they bought me no classical gem, but a music box IDENTICAL (fake pearls, fake gold, and all!) to the one Anastasia's grandmother gives to her in the movie! And it plays the first stanza of "Once Upon A December'! I was so happy!  :) Yea! That's all.


I have that too, I got it two years ago.

Journey To The Past is nice, but like I said Once Upon A December is orchestrally and lyrically superior.

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LOL yes the words are correct but the people I know think the song is titled Miracles. I'm like No...

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Close enough LOL

ALMOST remember, not USED TO remember LOL.

sorry. It's like when people call When You Believe from the Prince of Egypt "Miracles." I'm like NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The show Anastasia On Ice was my first ever skating event, I loved it, but couldn't help laughing at the beginning.

The place, St. Petersburg, Russia. The time, 10 years later.

Mom was like Ten years later than what?

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They had a Skating Princess Anastasia doll, I thought that was hilarious considering there is no skating in the movie.

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Nominated for Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress in a Made-for-TV movie, did you hear? cool.

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Oh it is available on the DVD of Anastasia with Ingrid Bergman, if you like the movie enough to get it.

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Barnes and Noble has an 800 number. You can check and see if it is available at barnesandnoble.com and order it through the 800 number, if that helps.

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Try looking in Amazon and search the A & E files. They may have a copy of it.

Louise


Amazon is not accessible offline, Louise, sorry. Believe me, I have tried so hard to find the 800 number for it, there's no way to order from it offline.

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The song Nasdrovia REALLY irked me for lack of more polite words. I'm a HUGE Les Miserables fan. Imagine my shock when I heard this. Great song orchestrally, but I was so mad that this guy is trying to pass this off as an original work.

Just a note when it comes to art you usually don't care about accuracy in history. And of course art is like this, What is art? How do we know it's good, and who decides?

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Hey, one could say that the music "Titanic" (not the movie) is kind of crass,


Actually you are right, but not because of the material that it is based on.

The reason the score for Titanic is kind of regarded as a mundane orchestral achievement is because it is vastly similar to the extraordinary masterpeice "BRAVEHEART" which was composed two-three years earlier by the same "master" if you can call him that. There's no doubt that Horner is a master of themes, but there are more flaws than you can tell at first glance. If you do not know film scores, or classical music, you wouldn't really have any clue as to what I'm talking about when I make the following points.

1: Horner has a history of repeating himself in many or all of his works.

2: Horner has a history of copying other composers to the last detail. I cite the following works:
A: Enemy At The Gates
B: Troy

Enemy At The Gates is mostly stolen from a "true master" (who does copy on his own occasionally but not so often as Horner) John Williams, with Schindler's List playing throughout the film.

Troy is a disappointment. It was composed in about six weeks, perhaps that is why it's turned out so poorly. The fans of classical music will surely be appalled to hear Shostakovich's 5th Symphony blared throughout to the very last detail.

3: Horner uses the same 4-note motif at relatively the same speed to indicate suspense. It was brilliant the first time he used it in Willow, but not so brilliant after 20+ films later.

4: His themes are vast, and he has good understanding of the characters and actions on screen. However, underneath the themes is quite boring and not difficult underscore.

5: The main reason Titanic is so respected in film score circuits is because it actually made people realize that there really IS a score to a film. Interesting change, considering thta in the early days of the talking picture there was no music because many of the directors, producers, etc. felt the audience would wonder "Where is that music coming from?" Over the years it's been just background noise to the average moviegoer, even though the films more often than not made the viewing experience more interesting with an impressive, haunting score than without.

Example: When Universal re-released its 1931 horror classic DRACULA with Bela Lugosi, they asked the Academy Award-nominated (previously I said winning, but I forgot as I was typing that that I had said "Academy Award,"
rather than "Golden Globe," which is what Glass DID win. Glass has never won an Oscar, but has been nominated several times, most recently for his haunting "The Hours.") composer Phillip Glass to write a score for it. He did, using only a string quartet: the Kronos quartet, as a matter of fact. When you watch it without the music as it had originally been done, it isn't as scary IMO (but scary enough certainly!) as the version with the chilling Herman-like string movements.

Of course horror films are often-times made all the scarier by the chilling scores that come with them, but eveyone knows this, surely...

Halloween
The Omen
Jaws
Psycho
SIgns
The Village

Just to name a few.

I suppose I've made my points. *bows* Thank you. For those interested in hearing samples of the above works, please reference the following:

www.filmtracks.com
www.amazon.com

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Thanks Bookworm. You're absolutely right.

I recall the same feelings about Braveheart.

I'd like to present a quote from a historian if I may.

"The minor inaccuracies in Braveheart didn't matter... It basically brought the story of William Wallace to a new generation, and the fact that people were suddenly ready to read about their own heritage must be a good thing... But there are TWO WALLACES. There's the William Wallace of fact, and there's the William Wallace of legend, and both of these have been entwined and become the one, and that is the symbol of hope to the people of Scotland."

and a quote from the writer of Braveheart, Randall Wallace.

"Blind Harry and I are both dramatists. History is far more than scholars. I think history lives in storytelling and storytelling is a much more universal and profound thing among the people. I always say I try not to let the facts get in the way of the truth."

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