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Olof Palme in Sweden, Anders Breivik in Norway, Kids of Bodom in Finland... family background as motives to become killed?

One could understand there is a lot of people with all kind of noble backgrounds back in older times. Their roots are hidden and probably they don't know anything about them themselves. At least in Finland such a background can impossibly be even talked about as it is not any kingdom as Sweden and Norway as the Grand Duchy of Finland had ceased to exist already in 1917.

The motive for murdering the Swedish Social democrat Prime Minister Olof Palme has not been found and not even the person (those persons behind his murder) who committed his murder. He had not only some noble roots - Baltic - but even some Jewish roots? Anders Breivik killed kids on some Social democrat camp. And what about the kids of Bodom killed in Finland and murdered very ruthlessly? What about if in all these cases the victims background has been the real reason and motive in one way or other as well as them being in some kind of wrong place in the society in one way or other?

What about if the kids of Bodom in Finland had some very high background and in the case of the most damaged kid - a girl - the possibility could even be that she was not the correct girl to be killed... but became killed in spite of someone else. This murder took place as early as in 1960.  She carried the strange firs name Irmeli as do some at least to me peculiar women in this country. Even the wife of the President and Nobel price winner Martti Ahtisaari carries this first name. This wife of his is a very well education woman, but has been completely invisible in the Finnish society through all times. Ahtisaari has somewhat strange background here as Norwegian and born in the strange city of Vyborg now in the Russian area. So this Bodom girl has peculiar first names as her second name is 'maila'... this could mean in English to mail - to send some letter or take contact in some important case... but this word in Finnish means even a 'racquet' that sounds very French as well as that it is a weapon to hit with... Sounds not only funny but very strange a first name can mean this kind of things!

Both the case of Olof Palme and the kids of Bodom has stayed unsolved and it could suit this kind of motive as nobody wants to talk here about some noble backgrounds and that having been the real reason to become murdered. At least in Finland there for sure seems to be a real mess with people's backgrounds and nobody here knows anymore about their own real background except maybe some in the older generation already passing away all together. These murders could also be some kind of hidden honor violence cases. Honor violence seems to be increasing in the Northern countries even if it said it has with the immigrant groups of today to do. But maybe even in both cases the historical motive is if not exactly then almost the same - the family roots and its background and its position in the society. The police investigators in these cases seem just to go around some hot porridge and in case they know they however cannot put into daylight this kind of motives and background reasons. 

Research Russian Roots / What people might have ended in concentration camps???
« Last post by Amely on July 24, 2021, 09:47:02 AM »
Wrote again an article but cannot put it here as I only get this message of some 'error'... I am almost thinking if my writings are banned from this forum or what... However, I know I have been writing much too much... So I put my articles into the blog with the address
Servants, Friends and Retainers / Re: Nagorny - Looking for photos & any material
« Last post by EmHarms on July 22, 2021, 03:42:41 PM »
Bumpity-bump, in hopes.
Maybe stupid but I started a blog for this kind of a background by the address:

In case you have some story of your family you can send it to me and we can publish it in that blog.

Today I also found a jewelry where the owner makes Huguenot crosses. He even have a list of Huguenot names on his website where people can send their surnames. His address is simply
I am wondering about this as 'my person' was even a Huguenot. A Wrote an article, but it seems to difficult to put it here as some other article. I just get this 'an error occurred'.
VIPs and the very wealthy in Russia and elsewhere had their own rail cars for transportation purposes back then like the VIPs of today ect. have private planes. In Russia pre WW I and many years after if you wanted to travel any distance you pretty much had to travel by rail.

Grand Duke Nicholas N while has was commander of the Russian Army 1914-15 had his own train to travel around in.

I would say most of the private rail cars in Russia were destroyed after the revolution except for a few the high ranking Bolsheviks managed to get for there own use.
Imperial Transportation / Re: Some car by the mark DUX?
« Last post by JamesAPrattIII on July 21, 2021, 10:45:34 AM »
The book "Russian Motor vehicles: The Czarist Period 1784-1917 has Dux making  200 cars from 1904-06. google search Dux factory for more info on their production of bicycles,motorcycles, snow cars and railroad cars. In 1910 the factory went into aircraft production. also look up Russo-balt on google for another auto and airplane maker.
Research Russian Roots / What hereditary diseases are known among old nobility?
« Last post by Amely on July 21, 2021, 02:29:15 AM »
What hereditary diseases are known among nobility - must be old families?

Everybody knows about the blood bleeding illness haemophilia in the Russian Tsar family. But are there other known hereditary diseases among the people having some older noble roots? Somewhere I read that some old Russian noble people where short. Then I have understood some noble people are very tall. What about the French artist Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, whose parents were first cousins and who belonged to some old noble family? He was a very short man and there must have been something wrong with his body even if he seems not to have been some dwarf.

My both grandmothers were 'very' short, but they both had very tall sons, my uncles. They had only a few daughters. My mother is not so very tiny, but her sister is so huge, she had to stop dancing ballet... But my birth family where we have these both grandmothers... we have problems... we have some hereditary bone illness that is very rare and we have got it from the sides of our both parents... and years ago when this was discovered the doctors just told this is some illness due to some decay of the bones... However, I am not any  dwarf...

I used to be a blood donor... but then they suddenly didn't want my blood any more even if I don't have the most common blood group and I had often been called to donate... I never got any explanation... Then sometimes in the late 1980s some things happened to me and then I was tested if I was a carrier of haemophilia... I still have the mark on my left arm and it is almost 2 cm long. I was wondering as I thought this must be an impossibility!

Now I am wondering what kind of hereditary diseases have been found among some noble people, however, not very fresh such families... However, I am not claiming I could have some noble roots, but I am just wondering what is known in this kind of a matter. Do you carry any you know of?
I have heard not long ago my family members were put into some quarantine in Vyborg after having left Russia in 1920 (Soviet Union and Bolsheviks) and ended in Finland. This time has never been mentioned in our family even if they seem to have spent there a lot of time... probably even some years as a relative of mine is born there in 1923 and the wife of my grandmother's brother died there in May 1928 when some airplane poured its fuels on her... I suppose she was a British citizen with some Scottish background... At least to me this seems to have been a very strange accident??? So still in Vyborg in 1928 when leaving Russia already around 1920... Today this seems to me more as if they had been kept in some prisonlike conditions... In 1917 Finland was not any more the Grand Duchy of Finland but had become the Republic of Finland as it had been during the years 1809-1917 under the Russian Emperor.

I have never heard anybody talk about this quarantine but maybe once about the reason for it that had been possible diseases coming into this country from Russia. But for years??? Today I checked in Wikipedia Vyborg and now I just cannot understand what is 'The Vyborg House of Nobility' they write 'the Vyborg house of nobility', I wonder what this nobility is and I cannot understand the sentence about it. To me it seems also strange to put these people from Russia in some quarantine in the middle of the battlefields. And I also read about the Vyborg massacre... 

I HAVE TO SAY I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AND NOW I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS 'QUARANTINE IN VYBORG' in the area of not any more the Grand Duchy of Finland but the Republic of Finland! The fact that nothing about this time has ever been talked about could hint at least to me there for sure might have been people whose identity must have been kept secret... and I suppose their identity has not been something from and within the Finnish nobility, but from somewhere else??? And I can understand their lifelong fear for their lives... and the Bolsheviks as all their relatives had been killed in St. Petersburg around 1918-19... And  I understand if for a male it became impossible to stay in this country after the 1930s when the country had became the Republic of Finland... and was not any more 'the grand duchy' (= as is written in Wikipedia)... Maybe 'The Grand Duchy' had been an other kind of place... Was it some kind of a prison for some (noble???) people that could not be killed even if some had wanted???   

Is there anybody here who knows something about this 'quarantine in Vyborg' or knows somebody who has been there???
It seems impossible to start a discussion in this topic???
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