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Alexandra Feodorovna / Re: The Untold Story of the Last Empress of Russia and the First World War
« Last post by Akira Takahashi on December 28, 2024, 05:35:03 PM »Any word on Grif?s book?
I was just wondering that myself.
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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia Anecdotes
« Last post by Akira Takahashi on December 28, 2024, 02:18:44 PM »Great little story and thanks for sharing!QuoteShe can enliven any place she sets foot in by her uncontrollable, cheerful laughter.
How I would have loved to hear that laugh!
Me too, although Anastasia would've been someone I would've loved to meet and loathed to meet at the same time. While it sounds like she could make everyone laugh, I wouldn't want to be on her bad side. It sounds like she could be a downright terror! I know that as a GD she could get away with a lot, but I think if I had done half the things she did, I never would've seen the light of day again.
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Anastasia Nicholaievna / Re: Anastasia and Loneliness - excerpt from "La fausse Anastasia"
« Last post by Akira Takahashi on November 28, 2024, 09:16:01 PM »Who knew that if you disappeared for a while, the entire forum would basically be abandoned by the time you returned? Finally got around to reading The Race to Save the Romanovs and decided to hit up the site I was addicted to only to discover it's very empty around here.
Anyway, I don't know if you still post here, but this is an interesting concept. I knew that Anastasia was a bit different from her sisters in that she likely would've thrived very well had she been exiled from Russia following the Revolution. Doing 'normal' work probably wouldn't have bothered her, and she certainly would've done better for herself than the modern-day Prince Harry.
That being said, I never considered that she would be lonely. There are a lot of things I imagine she would've felt about her place in the family (I mean, her name is basically a sexist apology, 'Yes, it's another girl, but don't worry, the boy is coming!' type of a name), but I never thought of her as lonely in a world where she would've been surrounded by people. It makes sense, though.
Anyway, I don't know if you still post here, but this is an interesting concept. I knew that Anastasia was a bit different from her sisters in that she likely would've thrived very well had she been exiled from Russia following the Revolution. Doing 'normal' work probably wouldn't have bothered her, and she certainly would've done better for herself than the modern-day Prince Harry.
That being said, I never considered that she would be lonely. There are a lot of things I imagine she would've felt about her place in the family (I mean, her name is basically a sexist apology, 'Yes, it's another girl, but don't worry, the boy is coming!' type of a name), but I never thought of her as lonely in a world where she would've been surrounded by people. It makes sense, though.
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Forum Announcements / Re: Forum Members Not Heard From in a Long While
« Last post by nena on November 27, 2024, 09:22:58 AM »Just dropped in here to say "hi" - it is been awhile since I last posted -- I really enjoyed it back in my teenage years.
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Having Fun! / Re: Rare Pictures XIV
« Last post by nena on November 27, 2024, 09:21:02 AM »Hi, KarlandZita, many thanks for sharing the links!
(This is my first post here after the years!)
(This is my first post here after the years!)
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Maria Nicholaievna / Re: Maria's Tonsil Operation
« Last post by Akira Takahashi on November 25, 2024, 10:37:36 AM »Tonsil operations were quite frequently done without anaesthetic as late as the 1920s - see Roald Dahl's book Boy.
As far as keeping the patient's mouth open when using ether or chloroform, I would imagine that technique was to give the patient enough to knock them out and then work fast!
Ann
I imagine they'd have to do something to keep it open, as the pain would instinctively make you want to close it! I imagine the Tsar's family would have access to it, though. I jumped down the rabbit hole and found this: https://www.speareducation.com/spear-review/2013/08/a-brief-history-of-dental-anesthesia
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The Final Chapter / Re: Why does the Russian Orthodox Church chooses not to believe....
« Last post by missmoldavite365 on October 15, 2024, 09:07:22 AM »...continued....
It should be mentioned that my uncle discovered there not only the remnants of death, but also of life. He found the heirs beloved dog named Joy. It was running around next to that area where the human bodies were burned, or at least attempted to be burned. However, nothing else was found there.
Basil (Rodzianko), the Bishop. My Fate. Memoirs / Comp. D.V. Glivinsky. M: Sretensky monastery, 2015, 416 pp.
Everything that was found there was moved away, yet another interesting connection with my family?with the help of the grandmother and grandfather of Peter Sarandinaki, a Russified Greek and my niece's husband. Peter Sarandinaki knew everything in great detail about his grandparents life. His grandfather was a general in the Kolchaks army. He was assigned to bring this makeshift shrine in a suitcase to Europe. They took it to Western Europe in a roundabout way, via China and other countries. Afterwards, this suitcase was hidden in the wall of a memorial chapel to Emperor Nicholas II in Brussels, on the commemoration day of Righteous Job the Long-suffering. The Emperor was born on that feast day, so he often spoke and wrote about it in his diary that, since this holy sufferer has been his patron saint, he will also bear a lot of sufferings.
Joy was taken to Buckingham Palace. My uncle arrived there upon the invitation of King George V who, as is well known, was the Emperors cousin and looked like him so much that people always confused him with his cousin, especially in youth. King George V and my uncle Pavel met privately; not even a valet was present. Thats where my uncle shared everything he knew about the death of the Imperial family and the dreadful discovery. Joy, handed over to the king, somehow assuaged his sorrow. This little dog brought joy to the Windsor Castle and was buried, when his time has come, in Windsor Park. Even in our days, one can find its soul-stirring gravesite, a symbol that all nature, including all creatures great and small, is united in the Kingdom of Heaven. The king did have the slightest chance to provide help to his close relatives. We should also keep in mind that Empress Alexandra Feodorovna was a favourite granddaughter of Queen Victoria; she loved this country (England) dearly and was loved in return.
The question arises: why didn't the Royal Family assist in taking the Imperial family to safety? They say that it was impossible for political reasons, the liberal Prime Minister Lloyd George was against it. They feared that it might negatively affect international relations between the two countries. It is possible, we don't know. But my uncle used to say that the king took the death of the Imperial family as a personal tragedy. Besides, even to this day, the Royal family still remembers it with overwhelming sadness, and we are aware of it.
Fr. Nicholas shared a lot of stories about the remarkable Imperial family he loved so dearly. He has provided insight into their life, the mutual love and deep faith that ruled this family, and how they were treated by their British relatives. Therefore, I do not judge anyone.
It should be mentioned that my uncle discovered there not only the remnants of death, but also of life. He found the heirs beloved dog named Joy. It was running around next to that area where the human bodies were burned, or at least attempted to be burned. However, nothing else was found there.
Basil (Rodzianko), the Bishop. My Fate. Memoirs / Comp. D.V. Glivinsky. M: Sretensky monastery, 2015, 416 pp.
Everything that was found there was moved away, yet another interesting connection with my family?with the help of the grandmother and grandfather of Peter Sarandinaki, a Russified Greek and my niece's husband. Peter Sarandinaki knew everything in great detail about his grandparents life. His grandfather was a general in the Kolchaks army. He was assigned to bring this makeshift shrine in a suitcase to Europe. They took it to Western Europe in a roundabout way, via China and other countries. Afterwards, this suitcase was hidden in the wall of a memorial chapel to Emperor Nicholas II in Brussels, on the commemoration day of Righteous Job the Long-suffering. The Emperor was born on that feast day, so he often spoke and wrote about it in his diary that, since this holy sufferer has been his patron saint, he will also bear a lot of sufferings.
Joy was taken to Buckingham Palace. My uncle arrived there upon the invitation of King George V who, as is well known, was the Emperors cousin and looked like him so much that people always confused him with his cousin, especially in youth. King George V and my uncle Pavel met privately; not even a valet was present. Thats where my uncle shared everything he knew about the death of the Imperial family and the dreadful discovery. Joy, handed over to the king, somehow assuaged his sorrow. This little dog brought joy to the Windsor Castle and was buried, when his time has come, in Windsor Park. Even in our days, one can find its soul-stirring gravesite, a symbol that all nature, including all creatures great and small, is united in the Kingdom of Heaven. The king did have the slightest chance to provide help to his close relatives. We should also keep in mind that Empress Alexandra Feodorovna was a favourite granddaughter of Queen Victoria; she loved this country (England) dearly and was loved in return.
The question arises: why didn't the Royal Family assist in taking the Imperial family to safety? They say that it was impossible for political reasons, the liberal Prime Minister Lloyd George was against it. They feared that it might negatively affect international relations between the two countries. It is possible, we don't know. But my uncle used to say that the king took the death of the Imperial family as a personal tragedy. Besides, even to this day, the Royal family still remembers it with overwhelming sadness, and we are aware of it.
Fr. Nicholas shared a lot of stories about the remarkable Imperial family he loved so dearly. He has provided insight into their life, the mutual love and deep faith that ruled this family, and how they were treated by their British relatives. Therefore, I do not judge anyone.
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The Final Chapter / Re: Why does the Russian Orthodox Church chooses not to believe....
« Last post by missmoldavite365 on October 15, 2024, 09:06:27 AM »Some information that may shed light on this thread:
https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2021/04/memorial-church-of-saint-job-in-brussels-a-candle-for-the-holy-royal-martyrs-of-russia
Discovered in 1920, the relics of the Royal Family were entrusted to Metropolitan Seraphim, Archpriest of the Western European Episcopate in the memorial church, which was then in the process of construction. The relics of the Holy Martyrs were sealed in a lead container and immured in a church wall. During the major works of restoration in 2012, the container with the relics was rediscovered, together with a hand-written document describing the identity of the relics. The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad declined to subject the discovery to further examination, leaving the relics unsealed but open for the worshippers to revere.
In 2010:
Legend had it that Sokolovs evidence ended up hidden inside a wall at the New Martyrs Russian Orthodox Church in Brussels. But Vladimir Solovyev, a criminal investigator in the Moscow prosecutors office who has worked on the Romanov case since 1991, searched the church and turned up nothing. The evidence, he said, vanished during the Second World War.
From: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/resurrecting-the-czar-64545030/
April 27th 2021:
Memorial Church of Saint Job in Brussels a Candle for the Holy Royal Martyrs of Russia
https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2021/04/memorial-church-of-saint-job-in-brussels-a-candle-for-the-holy-royal-martyrs-of-russia
Discovered in 1920, the relics of the Royal Family were entrusted to Metropolitan Seraphim, Archpriest of the Western European Episcopate in the memorial church, which was then in the process of construction. The relics of the Holy Martyrs were sealed in a lead container and immured in a church wall. During the major works of restoration in 2012, the container with the relics was rediscovered, together with a hand-written document describing the identity of the relics. The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad declined to subject the discovery to further examination, leaving the relics unsealed but open for the worshippers to revere.
In 2022: https://orthochristian.com/147245.html
See below for information found in the link above.
About the Imperial Family
Bishop Basil (Rodzianko)
The Sretensky Мonastery publishing house published a book of memoirs by Bishop Basil (Rodzianko) called My Fate and compiled video transcriptions from 1997 1999. The majority of them is being published for the first time.
Vladyka Basil speaks about his family, childhood, and the tragic events of the last century in Russia and the fates of the people deprived of their Motherland. From the Vladykas memoirs, one can study the history of the Russian Orthodox Church in the twentieth century and the history of the Russian Church Abroad. Bishop Basil met with practically every well-known hierarch of the time, the devout servants of God and the leaders of the Church. One of the chapters of the book is devoted to the memories of Fr. Nicholas (Gibbes) who converted to Orthodoxy and was tonsured a monk with the name of Nicholas, in memory of His Majesty the Emperor.
I learned from Fr. Nicholas (Gibbes) about the secrets of the Imperial children?s room and his attitude toward this family.
He became a tutor to His Majesty's children purely by accident. Someone recommended him, they liked him, and his candidacy was approved. He unintentionally became a member of their family.
He was so attracted to Orthodoxy, which he learned about while tutoring the children of the Emperor and the Empress, that after the revolution, when the Imperial family had to travel to Tobolsk deep in Siberia, he went there with them and shared the hardships that befell the family. Later on, he followed them to Ekaterinburg. But, since those who transported the family knew the fate that awaited them, as a foreign citizen he was separated from them. He lived to see the tragic day made known to the world and took it very hard. All of this led him to become a monk. Together with the Kolchak army retreating by way of Siberia, he ended up in Harbin, a quintessential Russian town in Manchuria. This was because of its location on the Chinese Eastern Railway, which employed many Russian nationals, which helped to Russianize the town even before the revolution. It was where he met Vladyka Nestor (Anisimov), a missionary to Kamchatka, and later to China. Vladyka Nestor founded the Russian Orthodox House of Mercy in Harbin. That?s where Sidney Gibbes was received into the Orthodox Church and tonsured a monk, adopting the name Nicholas in memory of His Majesty the Emperor Nicholas II. He served there as a priest right up to the beginning of the Second World War. For a number of reasons, he had to return to his homeland, and was back in London in 1938. He served in a Russian Orthodox church there conducting services in English, for the English speakers. He was later assigned to an Anglican Church building right in the middle of London.
I became closely acquainted with Fr. Nicholas and learned from him a lot of details unknown to others. He told me what happened after he had found out about the tragic death of the Imperial family. No one knew how they died or were the bodies of the slain where buried. This only became known after the investigator Sokolov arrived to Ekaterinburg. Colonel Pavel Pavlovich Rodzianko, my uncle and my fathers cousin, also arrived there with the Kolchak army. He, along with Sokolov and Sidney Gibbes (the future Fr. Nicholas) who joined them, launched an investigation. They descended into the mine that they assumed was the burial place of the members of the Imperial family. They inspected Ganina Yama, but found nothing but a few things. Thats where, Fr. Nicholas told me, he found nails, the large ones, at the bottom of the mine. He immediately identified these nails. They were kept in the heirs pocket. When he, the tutor, and his charge would play a game of skittles or something like that, they'd usually set these nails out and then throw a ball. Once he discovered these nails, it became clear to him that the boy was killed and his body lay here. They collected the nails and other items they had found in a special suitcase. Pieces of burnt bones were already stored inside it. They also discovered the traces of two large fires and obvious attempts to burn the human remains. As we know, the investigator Sokolov held that all bodies were burned there, but they had no sufficient evidence to prove it. Fr. Nicholas never learned about the final results of the investigation.
...more in next post...
https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2021/04/memorial-church-of-saint-job-in-brussels-a-candle-for-the-holy-royal-martyrs-of-russia
Discovered in 1920, the relics of the Royal Family were entrusted to Metropolitan Seraphim, Archpriest of the Western European Episcopate in the memorial church, which was then in the process of construction. The relics of the Holy Martyrs were sealed in a lead container and immured in a church wall. During the major works of restoration in 2012, the container with the relics was rediscovered, together with a hand-written document describing the identity of the relics. The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad declined to subject the discovery to further examination, leaving the relics unsealed but open for the worshippers to revere.
In 2010:
Legend had it that Sokolovs evidence ended up hidden inside a wall at the New Martyrs Russian Orthodox Church in Brussels. But Vladimir Solovyev, a criminal investigator in the Moscow prosecutors office who has worked on the Romanov case since 1991, searched the church and turned up nothing. The evidence, he said, vanished during the Second World War.
From: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/resurrecting-the-czar-64545030/
April 27th 2021:
Memorial Church of Saint Job in Brussels a Candle for the Holy Royal Martyrs of Russia
https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2021/04/memorial-church-of-saint-job-in-brussels-a-candle-for-the-holy-royal-martyrs-of-russia
Discovered in 1920, the relics of the Royal Family were entrusted to Metropolitan Seraphim, Archpriest of the Western European Episcopate in the memorial church, which was then in the process of construction. The relics of the Holy Martyrs were sealed in a lead container and immured in a church wall. During the major works of restoration in 2012, the container with the relics was rediscovered, together with a hand-written document describing the identity of the relics. The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad declined to subject the discovery to further examination, leaving the relics unsealed but open for the worshippers to revere.
In 2022: https://orthochristian.com/147245.html
See below for information found in the link above.
About the Imperial Family
Bishop Basil (Rodzianko)
The Sretensky Мonastery publishing house published a book of memoirs by Bishop Basil (Rodzianko) called My Fate and compiled video transcriptions from 1997 1999. The majority of them is being published for the first time.
Vladyka Basil speaks about his family, childhood, and the tragic events of the last century in Russia and the fates of the people deprived of their Motherland. From the Vladykas memoirs, one can study the history of the Russian Orthodox Church in the twentieth century and the history of the Russian Church Abroad. Bishop Basil met with practically every well-known hierarch of the time, the devout servants of God and the leaders of the Church. One of the chapters of the book is devoted to the memories of Fr. Nicholas (Gibbes) who converted to Orthodoxy and was tonsured a monk with the name of Nicholas, in memory of His Majesty the Emperor.
I learned from Fr. Nicholas (Gibbes) about the secrets of the Imperial children?s room and his attitude toward this family.
He became a tutor to His Majesty's children purely by accident. Someone recommended him, they liked him, and his candidacy was approved. He unintentionally became a member of their family.
He was so attracted to Orthodoxy, which he learned about while tutoring the children of the Emperor and the Empress, that after the revolution, when the Imperial family had to travel to Tobolsk deep in Siberia, he went there with them and shared the hardships that befell the family. Later on, he followed them to Ekaterinburg. But, since those who transported the family knew the fate that awaited them, as a foreign citizen he was separated from them. He lived to see the tragic day made known to the world and took it very hard. All of this led him to become a monk. Together with the Kolchak army retreating by way of Siberia, he ended up in Harbin, a quintessential Russian town in Manchuria. This was because of its location on the Chinese Eastern Railway, which employed many Russian nationals, which helped to Russianize the town even before the revolution. It was where he met Vladyka Nestor (Anisimov), a missionary to Kamchatka, and later to China. Vladyka Nestor founded the Russian Orthodox House of Mercy in Harbin. That?s where Sidney Gibbes was received into the Orthodox Church and tonsured a monk, adopting the name Nicholas in memory of His Majesty the Emperor Nicholas II. He served there as a priest right up to the beginning of the Second World War. For a number of reasons, he had to return to his homeland, and was back in London in 1938. He served in a Russian Orthodox church there conducting services in English, for the English speakers. He was later assigned to an Anglican Church building right in the middle of London.
I became closely acquainted with Fr. Nicholas and learned from him a lot of details unknown to others. He told me what happened after he had found out about the tragic death of the Imperial family. No one knew how they died or were the bodies of the slain where buried. This only became known after the investigator Sokolov arrived to Ekaterinburg. Colonel Pavel Pavlovich Rodzianko, my uncle and my fathers cousin, also arrived there with the Kolchak army. He, along with Sokolov and Sidney Gibbes (the future Fr. Nicholas) who joined them, launched an investigation. They descended into the mine that they assumed was the burial place of the members of the Imperial family. They inspected Ganina Yama, but found nothing but a few things. Thats where, Fr. Nicholas told me, he found nails, the large ones, at the bottom of the mine. He immediately identified these nails. They were kept in the heirs pocket. When he, the tutor, and his charge would play a game of skittles or something like that, they'd usually set these nails out and then throw a ball. Once he discovered these nails, it became clear to him that the boy was killed and his body lay here. They collected the nails and other items they had found in a special suitcase. Pieces of burnt bones were already stored inside it. They also discovered the traces of two large fires and obvious attempts to burn the human remains. As we know, the investigator Sokolov held that all bodies were burned there, but they had no sufficient evidence to prove it. Fr. Nicholas never learned about the final results of the investigation.
...more in next post...
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The Final Chapter / Re: GD Michael : Search Foundation update ?
« Last post by missmoldavite365 on October 15, 2024, 08:48:52 AM »20
The Final Chapter / Re: GD Michael : Search Foundation update ?
« Last post by missmoldavite365 on October 15, 2024, 08:44:53 AM »Search for Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich's remains resumes near Perm. On 18th September 2024, Russian media sources reported that the search for the remains of Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich and his secretary Nikolai Johnson have resumed near Perm, where they were both murdered by the Bolsheviks on 13th June 1918.28 Sept 2024